**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Sep 08 02:59:59 2010 Sep 08 08:00:30 anyone awake? Sep 08 08:15:49 nope, everyone sleeping Sep 08 08:16:02 ahh Sep 08 08:16:11 how's your candy factory coming along? Sep 08 14:48:48 Say, does anyone know whether any of the distros for the FreeRunner have the musb driver ? Sep 08 14:49:07 (I'm doing research on the PS Freedom app, but it needs musb apparently) Sep 08 14:50:36 Bert_2: I hope you noticed that there's a license problem with ps freedom app? Sep 08 14:51:42 "ps freedom app"? what's that? Sep 08 14:51:47 hhello all Sep 08 14:52:01 Wonka: usb gadget driver to jailbreak playstation3 afaik Sep 08 14:52:11 ah Sep 08 14:52:28 I wanted to know an information Sep 08 14:52:34 Wonka: ironically it's not compatible with the license of linux... Sep 08 14:52:45 first there is someone who speaks in Italian language? Sep 08 14:53:22 second thing to you is supported handheld i-mate K-JAM which the processor OMAP850 Sep 08 14:53:38 mark320: supported by what? Sep 08 14:54:06 if my PocketPC is supported? Sep 08 14:54:16 mark320: yes but supported by what? Sep 08 14:54:22 hmmm... just had a crazy idea... Sep 08 14:54:38 audio video if it works ... etc. Sep 08 14:54:51 mark320: i don't think you understand my question Sep 08 14:54:56 multiple gadgets are possible, nor? like cdc ethernet and usb storage? Sep 08 14:55:01 Wonka: not easily Sep 08 14:55:14 I say if you run it in my supporter for OpenMoko device? Sep 08 14:55:27 lindi-: I thought I saw such thing in 2.6.35 lately Sep 08 14:55:28 Wonka: linux does it with some ugly preprocessor hack that #includes c files Sep 08 14:55:46 mark320: openmoko distribution is not developed anymore Sep 08 14:56:28 mark320: distributions like SHR, qtmoko, debian run on openmoko hardware and other pieces of hardware Sep 08 14:56:39 I wanted to know how to install OpenMoko on a win mobile device that is installing from SD so I can have both Linux and Win Entertainment Sep 08 14:56:47 mark320: you don't want to install openmoko Sep 08 14:56:53 lindi-: use cdc ethernet to provide Internet access, and use usb storage to provide a boot.kernel.org boot image capable of using cdc ethernet :> Sep 08 14:57:47 I wish you set it however I need a good guide but there directly with the image img place has to do with the partition? Sep 08 14:57:49 lindi-: may the force be with you. 8))) Sep 08 14:58:17 mark320: I think you need to find somebody who speaks italian Sep 08 14:58:37 yes Sep 08 14:59:03 lindi-: of course I know there are license issues Sep 08 14:59:14 Bert_2: ah, good Sep 08 14:59:46 I just want to try to get it working Sep 08 15:00:01 Bert_2: /me is waiting for you try. Sep 08 15:00:12 why are you still waiting Q-Master Sep 08 15:00:14 ? Sep 08 15:00:36 I think you need to find somebody who speaks italian Sep 08 15:00:39 no time to do that myself. too busy at work Sep 08 15:01:47 Q-Master: well, if I have the right modules installed and nuke out the N900 specific code Sep 08 15:02:01 I should, at least compile Sep 08 15:06:09 response one italian Sep 08 15:10:37 Q-Master: according to the PSfreedom website, we are using S3C-24xx, work on our version is in progress: http://wiki.psfreedom.com/wiki/Device_compatibility_list Sep 08 15:12:28 Bert_2: yep. I've seen that Sep 08 15:13:24 sorry about OpenMoko and OMAP850 processor compatible or not? Sep 08 15:15:52 Hi. Can anybody tell me what the chances are to install openmoko on a Samsung H1? Sep 08 15:16:17 Response Sep 08 15:16:20 thanks Sep 08 15:18:14 ? Sep 08 15:18:20 Hello? Sep 08 15:18:37 SparFux you speak italian? Sep 08 15:18:37 mark, you just left the room. ;-) Sep 08 15:18:43 Nope. Sep 08 15:20:34 Would you say that it's better to buy a mobile with LiMo installed rather than with windows installed? Sep 08 16:56:10 hi Sep 08 19:36:21 Hi. Bad news for the Samsung H1: http://h1.pargon.nl/wiki/index.php?title=Samsung_H1_OneNAND Sep 08 19:38:08 That's quite irrelevant to running other OSs on it. Sep 08 19:38:51 and boot from sd card? Sep 08 19:39:08 It is? sounds like it is a rom. Sep 08 19:39:15 (how fast is it im comparison to the internal memory) Sep 08 19:39:37 Onenand is a flash chip Sep 08 19:39:43 this phone has 16GB of internal flash installed. Sep 08 19:40:08 It's just a NAND flash chip. It's not ROM. Sep 08 19:40:14 SpeedEvil: if so, why would it be "There is generally no possibility to store data on it. Even through root access it is limited through the use of cramfs for most things. " Sep 08 19:40:31 Because who ever wrote that has no clue. Sep 08 19:40:51 Blank all but the bootloader and kernel, and put a ubifs filesystem on there. Sep 08 19:41:18 SpeedEvil: Can we be sure this is even possible? Sep 08 19:41:41 SpeedEvil: I mean, I cannot solder out the chip, put ubifs on it and resolder it in :-\ Sep 08 19:43:29 But I see no report anybody has ever gotten a root shell on the H1. Sep 08 19:43:34 If you have root, you can do it. Sep 08 19:44:02 If you do not have root, or the ability to flash that chip, you can't boot any other OS. Sep 08 19:44:26 Saying it's impossible because you can't 'store data' on it is completely wrong though. Sep 08 19:45:02 Ok, thx for info. I am still checking for reports of root shells on that phone ;-) Sep 08 19:45:38 The n900 uses a - 256M - onenand formatted with ubifs - for example. Sep 08 19:47:58 * PBeck thinks we all should buy a N900 and get shr and co working. So we have all what we need :) Sep 08 19:48:58 but that all means, I can trash the whole phone with flashing the chip. Sep 08 19:49:49 the nexus one is ~400 Euro. The Samsung H1 is 174 Euro. That's a difference for similar computing power! Sep 08 19:49:50 yes. Sep 08 19:50:47 Unless you do something like convice the bootloader to boot from the SD Sep 08 19:51:06 At least the seem to be able to view the linux system on the phone H1: http://www.limo-os.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=6 Sep 08 19:51:44 First get the kernel source. Sep 08 19:55:17 http://img823.imageshack.us/f/img6190gv.jpg/ Sep 08 19:55:20 muuah Sep 08 20:00:49 I will look into samsung published source, 153 MB : http://opensource.samsungmobile.com/download/OpenSource/GT-I8320_OpenSource.zip Sep 08 20:00:52 That's the H1. Sep 08 20:02:53 kernel andbootloader source. Sep 08 20:09:02 they seem to have gotten a root shell, yay. Sep 08 20:09:17 one posting in the long thread reads: "i've also managed to get root acces on the phone via telnet...but /etc and /usr are mounted read only (because of cramfs). Is there any possibilty to write on this partitions (e.g. editing config files)? or will i have to flash the phone every time, to edit some files?" Sep 08 20:11:55 Cool! They got root! http://www.limo-os.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=6&start=110 I think I'll buy the phone. Sep 08 20:22:03 The last thing would be wether there are free software drivers for all the devices on board. But that yet stays to remain discovered I think. Sep 08 20:31:28 look at the source Sep 08 20:53:01 It's easy to get root on that device! You just modify the firmware tarball and do a firmware upgrade :-) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Sep 09 02:59:57 2010