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Sep 30 06:02:26 <nicfer> hi
Sep 30 06:08:30 <DiodomanX> hi everyone im trying to remove a desktop file from enlightenment
Sep 30 06:08:36 <DiodomanX> ~/.e/e/appshadow/0003.desktop
Sep 30 06:08:45 <DiodomanX> but after reboot appear again
Sep 30 06:13:52 <nicfer> newer revisions of the freerunner will be announced as actualizations of the older model or as a brand new phone?
Sep 30 06:17:59 <max_posedon> nicfer, its depend on what you mean under "newer revisions"
Sep 30 06:18:31 <nicfer> eg, 'a similar looking phone but with new features'
Sep 30 06:18:36 <max_posedon> if you means gta02-core project, I didn't hear that it will be manufactered 
Sep 30 06:18:58 <max_posedon> may be n900 fits your needs?
Sep 30 06:19:32 <nicfer> like most phone brands do, just add something to the previous model and sell it as a brand new phone
Sep 30 06:19:44 <max_posedon> OpemMoko doesn't work on phones anymore
Sep 30 06:23:46 <nicfer> what do you mean?
Sep 30 06:26:51 <max_posedon> I mean that company Openmoko stoped working on phones 1.5 years ago
Sep 30 06:27:09 <max_posedon> fired most developers, and focused on othere projects like WikiReader
Sep 30 06:27:52 <nicfer> then here only is worked on the software, right?
Sep 30 06:28:07 <max_posedon> nope, they don't
Sep 30 06:29:01 <max_posedon> software developed by community
Sep 30 10:06:00 <skamster_> hello all.. i've installed a new shr-testing and selected illume2 for using.. two questions: how could i get back to illume1? and on illume2, it was normaly possible to click on the top-bar (with the settings-, home-, split- and rightclick-icon) to change betwen the app's or to close them.. this isn't working anymore..  is that a feature or a bug? ;)
Sep 30 10:10:12 <skamster_> hope, someone could help me
Sep 30 10:23:42 <Q-Master> skamster_: just reboot 1 time after you selected illume2
Sep 30 10:39:18 <PaulFertser> skamster_: the topbar in illume2 is called shr_elm_button or something similar.
Sep 30 10:40:15 <[Rui]> shr_elm_softkey
Sep 30 10:40:17 <[Rui]> iirc
Sep 30 10:40:26 <[Rui]> it needs love, it's too small to be useful :(
Sep 30 10:40:38 <jluis> skamster_: clicking in the empty space on  top-bar you suld get a bar with icons < X > standing for previus close and next
Sep 30 10:40:41 <[Rui]> half the time I hit next or prev rather than close
Sep 30 11:06:21 <skamster_> Jluis: yes, i also think that should work - but it doesn't
Sep 30 11:06:27 <skamster_> no idea why..
Sep 30 11:12:07 <PaulFertser> skamster_: just start shr_elm_softkey, as [Rui] said.
Sep 30 11:12:28 <jluis> skamster_: I don't know if is the case on shr-t but sometimes shr_elm_softkey fails to run
Sep 30 11:14:17 <skamster_> nice..
Sep 30 11:14:25 <skamster_> it works..
Sep 30 11:15:43 <skamster_> could i put that anywhere in the autostart?
Sep 30 11:17:41 <skamster_> or where is the autostart in shr?
Sep 30 11:18:34 <Heinervdm> skamster_: .e/.e/applications/startup
Sep 30 11:26:38 <JaMa> skamster_: in shr-t there is Xsession.d script.. see if it starts with sleep 10
Sep 30 11:27:47 <skamster_> DISPLAY=:0.0 /usr/bin/shr_elm_softkey &
Sep 30 11:27:55 <xyzz> btw, anybody interested in buying openmoko?
Sep 30 11:27:58 <skamster_> that's in the startscript
Sep 30 11:28:17 <xyzz> in 100% shape, Im too busy to play with it
Sep 30 11:29:18 <JaMa> skamster_: add sleep 10 && before running shr_elm_softkey
Sep 30 11:31:39 <lindi-> xyzz: what revision and how much?
Sep 30 11:42:26 <skamster_> jaMa: it works :) thanks!
Sep 30 12:34:09 <xyzz> lindi- lets say, 100€ + shipping (original case & stuff, even with stylus :))
Sep 30 12:35:32 <xyzz> lindi- A6+ (with that mic fix)
Sep 30 13:01:17 <badcloud> xyzz: just 100 euro?
Sep 30 13:40:37 <xyzz> badcloud yes. Im not using it anymore, so for me it has value almost zero ... but things are different on "real market" :)
Sep 30 13:44:20 <badcloud> xyzz: wait, are you selling for 100 or is the market selling it
Sep 30 13:49:26 <xyzz> badcloud I'm selling it
Sep 30 13:50:01 <xyzz> badcloud I'm trying to tell you the reason, why it may look so cheap, or even expensive
Sep 30 13:50:25 <badcloud> xyzz: oh, I see. I got the reasoning very well
Sep 30 13:50:43 <badcloud> I was just taken aback by the price (if it was current market price)
Sep 30 13:51:10 <xyzz> when it is laying in the box, getting dust, it doest really has any value
Sep 30 13:51:42 <xyzz> now is the pride like 200€+, if Im not mistaken
Sep 30 13:51:45 <xyzz> price
Sep 30 13:51:53 <badcloud> xyzz: true
Sep 30 13:52:00 <badcloud> why didn't you find use for it?
Sep 30 13:53:48 <xyzz> out of time, to play a hack
Sep 30 13:54:11 <xyzz> im getting old and coding in java instead of C/perl
Sep 30 13:54:32 <xyzz> and using some old shitty nokia symbian device
Sep 30 13:57:35 <badcloud> xyzz: drag
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