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Oct 30 08:21:31 <quitte> hi. how easy or hard is it to get a gps fix? on a train when pressing the phone to a window i often loose the fix.
Oct 30 08:27:44 <jlmoko> here in Barcelona, urban area, when outside of the tunels ~3 minutes when stoped  >7 minutes runing
Oct 30 08:30:44 <quitte> jlmoko: but you do get a fix even when on a train without doing anything special?
Oct 30 08:31:13 <quitte> jlmoko: even if you didn't have a fix before?
Oct 30 08:35:45 <jlmoko> quitte, no, I just  hold it on the window for the first fix, after that it keeps GPS signal even on the aisle
Oct 30 08:39:41 <jlmoko> quitte I use FSO (I've seen you on #qtmoko)
Oct 30 08:42:11 <quitte> do you think that can make a difference?
Oct 30 08:42:39 <quitte> i'd prefer if nerongps used some gpsd anyways. i want it to keep a fix even when not using a gps app
Oct 30 08:51:29 <jlmoko> fso uses offline AGPS (preloads almanac (valid for 15 days  & ephermerides ~ 30 minutes)
Oct 30 08:53:31 <jlmoko> omgps also has sumport for agps
Oct 30 09:26:20 <quitte> now that i have the moko open for the first time -i recall there being a hardware issue with the gsm suspend. does anyone recall how to find the related information?
Oct 30 11:19:55 <quitte> can i use fso-gpsd without all the rest of whatever frameworkd does?
Oct 30 11:21:03 <Heinervdm> quitte: fso-gpsd just translates gypsy to older gpsd protocol, so fso-gpsd is completly independend of fso
Oct 30 11:22:53 <quitte> Heinervdm: how could i check if fso-gpsd works? some simple command line app preferably?
Oct 30 11:23:48 <Heinervdm> just connect with telnet to it
Oct 30 19:42:22 <apt> Okay, I'm here. (courtesy of docscrutinizer)
Oct 30 19:46:20 <PBeck> hi
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