**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Nov 03 02:59:57 2010
Nov 03 07:19:55 <zipp> hello
Nov 03 07:20:25 <PaulFertser> Hi
Nov 03 07:20:55 <zipp> I installed SHR on SD card and it is during first boot
Nov 03 07:21:04 <zipp> but it looks like it hangs
Nov 03 07:21:20 <zipp> I can see Enlightements ..... for such long time
Nov 03 07:21:46 <PaulFertser> zipp: can you ssh in via usb?
Nov 03 07:21:53 <zipp> w8
Nov 03 07:21:56 <zipp> I will check
Nov 03 07:24:12 <zipp> yeah
Nov 03 07:24:13 <zipp> I can
Nov 03 07:24:14 <zipp> xD
Nov 03 07:24:34 <zipp> make reboot?
Nov 03 07:26:38 <zipp> PaulFertser, ?
Nov 03 07:26:53 <PaulFertser> zipp: no, find out what's hanging
Nov 03 07:26:54 <PaulFertser> :)
Nov 03 07:27:19 <zipp> I rebooted
Nov 03 07:27:20 <zipp> :S
Nov 03 07:27:59 <zipp> initial setup S:
Nov 03 07:29:24 <zipp> wtf
Nov 03 07:33:58 <zipp> I am losted
Nov 03 07:34:00 <zipp> :D
Nov 03 09:19:48 <zipp> anyone here?
Nov 03 09:20:15 <[Rui]> zipp: yeah
Nov 03 09:20:49 <zipp> I installed QtMoko but beside I got problem with ssh connection I haven't it before
Nov 03 09:20:51 <zipp> ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.202 port 22: Connection refused
Nov 03 09:22:24 <[Rui]> I don't know.
Nov 03 09:22:31 <[Rui]> perhaps something went wrong.
Nov 03 09:22:41 <[Rui]> zipp: have you tried waiting a bit longer?
Nov 03 09:23:15 <zipp> m?
Nov 03 09:23:25 <zipp> in ubuntu I can see usb0 connected
Nov 03 09:23:56 <JaMa> [Rui]: my guess on "1 column" icons cause: http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/changeset/52844
Nov 03 09:24:00 <zipp> and changed ip for 192.168.0.202
Nov 03 09:25:15 <zipp> shit
Nov 03 09:25:16 <zipp> : D
Nov 03 09:25:22 <zipp> [Rui], what to do?
Nov 03 09:25:35 <zipp> [Rui], never had it before
Nov 03 09:26:09 <[Rui]> you see usb0 in your PC or on the neo?
Nov 03 09:26:10 <JaMa> zipp: sshd is not running..
Nov 03 09:26:26 <JaMa> zipp: or at least not waiting on that ip/interface
Nov 03 09:26:59 <zipp> [Rui], it is connected
Nov 03 09:27:11 <zipp> [Rui], my ubuntu see it
Nov 03 09:27:32 <[Rui]> zipp: try unplugging the cable and plugging again
Nov 03 09:27:33 <zipp> [Rui], when I use SHR it shows me like eth2 and all was working
Nov 03 09:27:34 <JaMa> connection is ok.. that's why you see "Connection refused" instead of timeout
Nov 03 09:28:01 <[Rui]> zipp: your PC interface (should be an ethN) should have the ip address 192.168.0.200
Nov 03 09:28:14 <zipp> JaMa, ye but why? now it is usb0 I make the same steps like for eth2 
Nov 03 09:28:32 <JaMa> zipp: just restart sshd on qtmoko..
Nov 03 09:28:52 <JaMa> zipp: because shr restores mac for usb0 from factory settings
Nov 03 09:29:48 <JaMa> zipp: and then your host name it different (because it's from designated mac range)
Nov 03 09:30:04 <zipp> I change ip for 200
Nov 03 09:30:07 <zipp> of usb-
Nov 03 09:30:13 <zipp> now got another error
Nov 03 09:30:28 <zipp> Someone could be eavesdropping on you right now (man-in-the-middle attack)!
Nov 03 09:30:34 <zipp> someone want to hack me?
Nov 03 09:31:08 <[Rui]> JaMa: raster will look into it, but he's a bit overloaded
Nov 03 09:31:33 <zipp> okay I will restart both machines
Nov 03 09:31:36 <zipp> :P
Nov 03 09:31:38 <zipp> let we see
Nov 03 09:31:58 <zipp> brb
Nov 03 09:35:44 <listonosz> still the same
Nov 03 09:35:46 <listonosz> :S
Nov 03 09:35:49 <listonosz> usb0
Nov 03 09:35:56 <listonosz> and it create new interface
Nov 03 09:52:43 <zipp> conencted
Nov 03 14:25:11 <doxy2> hi
Nov 03 14:25:26 <doxy2> can i use the debugboard to update my pc's bios ?
Nov 03 14:31:54 <SpeedEvil> maybe.
Nov 03 14:31:57 <SpeedEvil> However.
Nov 03 14:32:26 <SpeedEvil> The JTAG ports on the motherboard will almost certainly not have an actual connector on them, or typically even be labelled.
Nov 03 14:35:44 <doxy2> i see
Nov 03 14:36:01 <doxy2> so i need to do soldering?
Nov 03 14:37:25 <SpeedEvil> yes, typically, or probe in some other manner.
Nov 03 14:37:34 <SpeedEvil> And first you need to find the JTAG port
Nov 03 14:47:28 <doxy2> SpeedEvil: so i did i get this right: my motherboard needs to have jtag port for me able to flash my bios with openmoko's debugboard?
Nov 03 14:53:16 <SpeedEvil> yes
Nov 03 14:53:20 <SpeedEvil> and you need to find it
Nov 03 14:58:17 <doxy2> okay. this an acer desktop, with foxconn motherboard, how usual is it for plain home computers to have that port?
Nov 03 14:59:46 <SpeedEvil> It is not unusual.
Nov 03 15:00:00 <SpeedEvil> But the connector will almost never be populated.
Nov 03 15:00:20 <lindi-> doxy2: apt-get install flashrom might be a lot easier solution?
Nov 03 15:00:24 <SpeedEvil> It may not even be present in the normal form, being designed for pogo pins, not normal connection.
Nov 03 15:00:29 <lindi-> doxy2: why do you want to use jtag?
Nov 03 15:00:42 <SpeedEvil> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pogo_pin
Nov 03 15:01:29 <doxy2> lindi: i have i motherboard for which i don't have a working cpu. i thought of buying an eeprom programmer and it came to my mind if the openmoko's debug board could handle that task
Nov 03 15:01:40 <doxy2> so:
Nov 03 15:02:03 <doxy2> i need to update the bios to get my new cpu to work :
Nov 03 15:02:07 <doxy2> )
Nov 03 15:02:48 <lindi-> doxy2: hmm
Nov 03 19:57:49 <badcloud> anyone know for sure if dumb battery support works well in latest shr-u?
Nov 03 19:58:18 <badcloud> I have some shr-setting errors that persuade otherwise
Nov 03 19:59:17 <badcloud> anyone want the pastebin?
Nov 03 20:06:18 <badcloud> would be nice if it worked. I'm getting tired of charging every day. qtmoko v26 drains my battery life very rapidly
Nov 03 20:08:15 <PaulFertser> badcloud: ask dos1 or JaMa
Nov 03 20:08:34 <badcloud> PaulFertser: thanks
Nov 03 20:09:04 <badcloud> dos1: ping (^)
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