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Nov 12 13:24:35 <badcloud> anyone try the road handypc yet?
Nov 12 13:24:41 <badcloud> looks fun
Nov 12 13:25:23 <Broam> uri?
Nov 12 13:26:00 <badcloud> Broam: what?
Nov 12 13:26:05 <Broam> url? link?
Nov 12 13:26:55 <badcloud> http://www.road.de/en/index.html
Nov 12 13:29:07 <badcloud> I just love the quasi nokia communicator clamshell design
Nov 12 13:29:10 <Broam> faults I see are crowded keyboard, 802.11b only & 128MB RAM, although the 1GB of flash is interesting (looks like it was bumped)
Nov 12 13:29:29 <Broam> and their "pc" skin looks like Luna (the Windows XP theme)
Nov 12 13:29:52 <Broam> and their stated battery life makes my moko look long-lived
Nov 12 13:30:12 <Broam> Beyond that it looks pretty good, dual-sim, headset jack, BT
Nov 12 13:30:32 <Broam> even does USB OTG. Could be a neat device given a real linux stack
Nov 12 13:30:48 <Broam> ("real" being third-party, not subject to manufacturer's whims)
Nov 12 13:30:49 <badcloud> Broam: did you check out the two different kbd layouts (63/50 buttons)?
Nov 12 13:31:03 <Broam> badcloud: I did. I'm picky about hardware keyboards. Arrow keys are awful in 50-key
Nov 12 13:31:14 <badcloud> good to know
Nov 12 13:31:16 <Broam> and 63-key is really crowded. I'm sure I could get used to either
Nov 12 13:31:36 <badcloud> I'm really on the fence about what device to get when my fr dies
Nov 12 13:31:40 <Broam> it's quad-band
Nov 12 13:31:43 <Broam> that's nice
Nov 12 13:31:51 <Broam> anyway, need to head to work. ttyl
Nov 12 13:31:52 <badcloud> and I *need* a hw kbd
Nov 12 13:31:54 <badcloud> later
Nov 12 13:32:17 <Broam_work> that's my opinion. Of course, it's you who is buying the phone, not me :)
Nov 12 13:33:42 <badcloud> right :)
Nov 12 13:33:46 <badcloud> thanks
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Nov 12 16:23:32 <Paulus> Hi, on which input / event / /sys/.../file can I read the state of the headset-jack?
Nov 12 16:25:49 <Paulus> (shr-u, 2.6.34.7)
Nov 12 16:36:55 <SpeedEvil> From memory, you need to enable the right alsa control - then it appears on /dev/input/?
Nov 12 16:37:01 <SpeedEvil> but it's been a long time
Nov 12 16:39:52 <Paulus> ok thx
Nov 12 16:42:59 <JaMa|Wrk> Paulus: that patch for input device is missing in .34
Nov 12 16:43:16 <JaMa|Wrk> adding it now, but it won't be in SHR today
Nov 12 16:44:13 <badcloud> dos1|away: could you tell me the status of latest shr-u support for non-om batteries?
Nov 12 16:44:24 <badcloud> my last experience was not good
Nov 12 16:45:06 <dos1> badcloud: dunno, i haven't tried it for a long time
Nov 12 16:45:20 <Paulus> JaMa|Wrk: ah ok, so i stop searching for it :D
Nov 12 16:45:34 <Paulus> thanks for the great work btw
Nov 12 16:45:51 <badcloud> dos1: would you like me to paste my shr-setting error findings?
Nov 12 16:46:47 <dos1> badcloud: yes, please
Nov 12 16:47:11 <badcloud> dos1: http://pastebin.com/iqEJMX25
Nov 12 16:49:05 <badcloud> can't remember when I downloaded shr-u, but it was quite recently
Nov 12 16:49:23 <dos1> hmm
Nov 12 16:49:25 <dos1> i have just "FATAL: Module gta01_battery not found."
Nov 12 16:49:48 <badcloud> wasn't it switched to another module?
Nov 12 16:49:59 <dos1> which seems to be now platform_battery
Nov 12 16:49:59 <badcloud> hold on
Nov 12 16:50:35 <badcloud> platform_battery, right
Nov 12 16:51:01 <dos1> after modprobing it manually everything seems to be working correctly here
Nov 12 16:51:07 <badcloud> I see
Nov 12 16:52:15 <dos1> badcloud: pushed patch to shr-settings, should be in repo after next rebuild
Nov 12 16:52:27 <badcloud> dos1: thanks
Nov 12 16:54:33 <JaMa|Wrk> Paulus: you can try this build with hs patch http://build.shr-project.org/tests/jama/kernel-new/
Nov 12 16:58:48 <Paulus> JaMa|Off: thx, i'll try it later or tomorrow. I have to go now
Nov 12 16:58:59 <badcloud> what is it about the shr kernel that allows for longer standby time than the debian kernel?
Nov 12 16:59:43 <badcloud> (a conclusion drawn only from my own user experience)
Nov 12 17:00:17 <badcloud> I've had ~X2 on shr than qtmoko or h1
Nov 12 17:05:27 <badcloud> nobody?
Nov 12 17:08:22 <Waraqa> Is there any gui text editor for shr ?
Nov 12 17:09:26 <badcloud> Waraqa: http://www.opkg.org/category_7.html
Nov 12 17:10:47 <Waraqa> badcloud: Are these packages available in shr repository ?
Nov 12 17:11:29 <badcloud> I think so
Nov 12 17:12:05 <Waraqa> I switched to debian because I couldn't find one for shr
Nov 12 17:12:21 <Waraqa> I will try to reinstall it
Nov 12 17:12:29 <Waraqa> badcloud: thanks.
Nov 12 17:12:48 <badcloud> np
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