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Dec 28 09:08:40 <samgee> Could the Openmoko wall power plug be used for plain portable audio players (normally charged via USB connection to a pc)?
Dec 28 09:11:14 <SpeedEvil> It depends - maybe. Some players require plugging into a host.
Dec 28 09:11:23 <SpeedEvil> Relatively few though I think.
Dec 28 09:11:26 <SpeedEvil> Most it should work
Dec 28 09:12:47 <samgee> The player is a Sanza Fuze. There seem to be wall chargers available for it, but there's no use buying one if I can use the one I have.
Dec 28 09:19:44 <PaulFertser> samgee: the players i saw would charge out of anything that provides good steady 5V.
Dec 28 10:38:32 <DocScrutinizer> I.E. try it, it most likely will work. And for sure nothing can break
Dec 28 10:39:52 * DocScrutinizer wonders idly if it's safe to say: you can plug every USB plug to every matching receptacle, and there never should happen any harm
Dec 28 11:48:47 <PBeck> hi
Dec 28 12:47:17 <samgee> Thanks guys. I'm happy as long as I can try it without the fear of blowing my mother's player up. :)
Dec 28 15:25:22 <DocScrutinizer> ~ping
Dec 28 15:25:22 <apt> ~pong
Dec 28 15:50:22 <apt> Welcome Doc!
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Dec 28 18:20:34 <rettichschnidi> shr feels really slow on my freerunner - any way to speed it up?
Dec 28 18:31:44 <pespin> rettichschnidi, I'm afraid everything you run on FR will feel slow :P
Dec 28 18:33:26 <rettichschnidi> the 3d driver never ever saw the light of the day, right
Dec 28 18:33:29 <rettichschnidi> ?
Dec 28 18:35:43 <SpeedEvil> The '3d' hardware has problems.
Dec 28 18:35:48 <SpeedEvil> It's basically not very good
Dec 28 19:07:48 <rettichschnidi> that's one thing, but the other is, that even the available stuff does not have proper drivers, or?
Dec 28 19:10:33 <lindi-> rettichschnidi: the documentation is under NDA
Dec 28 19:10:36 <PBeck> hi
Dec 28 19:11:20 <gena2x> rettichschnidi: which version of shr are you using?
Dec 28 19:11:35 <gena2x> rettichschnidi: is it at least without debug?
Dec 28 19:12:11 <gena2x> rettichschnidi: try something based on .34/.32 kernel, add up 2-4-2 bootloader, and it will be fast
Dec 28 19:13:57 * lindi- runs linux on xen on qemu on xen :-)
Dec 28 19:20:28 <rettichschnidi> gena2x:i got this one: http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/images/om-gta02/full-om-gta02.jffs2
Dec 28 19:21:14 <gena2x> oh yeah, may 2010
Dec 28 19:21:31 <rettichschnidi> should i go with the unstable one?
Dec 28 19:21:44 <gena2x> try something newer, it may be 2-3 times faster at least
Dec 28 19:22:25 <rettichschnidi> ill try
Dec 28 19:22:44 <rettichschnidi> do you know by accident if there is postfix available on shr?
Dec 28 19:22:55 <rettichschnidi> (maybe i better google that myself...)
Dec 28 19:23:22 <gena2x> i am qtmoko user, qtmoko based on debian, so you have all debian.
Dec 28 19:23:52 <gena2x> shr is openembedded, so it's depends on builder to include something or not
Dec 28 19:24:08 <rettichschnidi> i wanna do a sms->email forwarding, if there is no postfix/exim/whatever ill go for debian
Dec 28 19:24:25 <rettichschnidi> there is such thing like a repository?
Dec 28 19:24:45 <gena2x> try qtmoko v28 for qtmoko or debian/fso.
Dec 28 19:24:51 <gena2x> for debian-way
Dec 28 19:25:35 <gena2x> qtmoko's repos: https://github.com/radekp
Dec 28 19:25:57 <rettichschnidi> ok, i may go for that
Dec 28 19:26:07 <rettichschnidi> but first I try a newer build of shr
Dec 28 19:26:12 <gena2x> debian-on-freerunner guide: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnFreeRunner
Dec 28 19:26:31 <gena2x> try shr unstable, it should have normal speed
Dec 28 19:26:59 <gena2x> primary reason of openmoko slowness for years is debigging stuff enabled in kernel
Dec 28 19:28:19 <gena2x> shr turned that off in .32/.34 kernel, they switched unstable in summer i think
Dec 28 19:28:35 <gena2x> qtmoko turned off on may
Dec 28 19:28:44 <gena2x> or february
Dec 28 19:29:03 <gena2x> but shr/testing may still use older 'stable' kernel
Dec 28 19:33:22 <rettichschnidi> I'm downloading the latest unstable
Dec 28 19:34:00 <rettichschnidi> but first ill go swimming, bbl
Dec 28 19:34:12 <rettichschnidi> thanks for you help
Dec 28 19:34:24 <gena2x> gl
Dec 28 19:38:51 <pespin> rettichschnidi, in openembedded there's postfix 2.7 acording to its git browser
Dec 28 19:39:00 <pespin> http://cgit.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/tree/recipes/postfix
Dec 28 19:39:41 <pespin> suppousing it builds and it's not in shr repos, you can ask in #openmoko-cdevel for inclusion in the repos, or add a request in trac at shr-project.org :)
Dec 28 19:40:54 <gena2x> rettichschnidi: ah, yes. btw qtmoko will not fit your needs anyway. so either debian/fso or shr
Dec 28 19:41:08 <gena2x> as only fso is scriptable
Dec 28 19:41:43 <gena2x> qtmoko is on qt c++ stack, have no idea how easy it is to extend/implement thing you want
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