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Jan 02 11:49:39 <PBeck> hi
Jan 02 16:04:17 <PBeck> re
Jan 02 16:57:15 <FreeNslaved> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-K9rXydMmfw&feature=related
Jan 02 19:55:26 <FreeNslaved> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Moi54kyXG-k
Jan 02 20:19:51 <PaulFertser> FreeNslaved: are you sure that's the proper way to spread your political views? Looks like spam!
Jan 02 20:22:12 <PaulFertser> FreeNslaved: i mean really, you are to explain yourself.
Jan 02 21:05:35 <yamitenshi> Hi there
Jan 02 21:06:59 <yamitenshi> I have a question about SHR-testing: when I don't put in a sim card, everything works fine, though obviously I can't use the phone. However, when I put in a sim card, enlightenment crashes (SEGV). Anybody else who suffers from this problem?
Jan 02 21:07:28 <yamitenshi> And the obvious follow-up question: any ideas on how to solve this? :P
Jan 02 21:07:53 <FreeNslaved> Fracking is not a political view
Jan 02 21:10:03 <FreeNslaved> now if you were to research Agenda 21  that may have political motivations....
Jan 02 21:14:59 <PaulFertser> FreeNslaved: i mean it shouldn't be done that way regardless.
Jan 02 21:15:37 <PaulFertser> FreeNslaved: this is #openmoko so if you really-really want to share something, you're to excuse for offtopic and to say something meaningful, not simply drop a link.
Jan 02 21:18:20 <FreeNslaved> on topic conversations very slow today
Jan 02 21:19:18 <PaulFertser> FreeNslaved: yes, but i hope you understood what i meant.
Jan 02 21:20:31 <PaulFertser> FreeNslaved: a stranger comes and drops a link, without anything else. Any op might ban you immediately.
Jan 02 21:20:32 <FreeNslaved> i think so
Jan 02 21:20:59 <FreeNslaved> yeah i dont understand why but what ever
Jan 02 21:21:29 <yamitenshi> because this is a channel with a specific topic. You don't just come running into a physycs conference blabbering things about math either
Jan 02 21:22:50 <FreeNslaved> ahhh that makes sense ty
Jan 02 21:24:01 <yamitenshi> happy to help :)
Jan 02 21:26:51 <PaulFertser> yamitenshi: i'm sorry i can't help you with SHR-t, i do not even know who works on it now.
Jan 02 21:27:34 <gena2x> shr guys nest is #openmoko-cdevel
Jan 02 21:27:57 <yamitenshi> thanks, they might be able to help :)
Jan 02 21:28:26 <gena2x> they alsa have maillist
Jan 02 21:28:33 <gena2x> s/alsa/also/
Jan 02 21:28:33 <apt> gena2x meant: they also have maillist
Jan 03 01:43:21 <tim_abell> hello, does anyone know where the address book data lives on shr? i want to copy it from one install on internal flash to another install on my sd card
Jan 03 01:45:52 <Heinervdm> tim_abell: somewhere in /etc/freesmartphone
Jan 03 01:47:05 <tim_abell> is it possible to mount the internal flash when you've booted of sd?
Jan 03 01:55:39 <tim_abell> mount /dev/mtdblock6 internal_flash -t jffs2
Jan 03 02:05:46 <tim_abell> ta for that
Jan 03 02:07:01 <tim_abell> /etc/freesmartphone/opim/pim.db by the looks of it
Jan 03 02:11:39 <tim_abell> hrmph, fresh flash of shr-u, installed and ran fine. ran opkg update && opkg upgrade, and now i have no gsm.
Jan 03 02:12:30 <tim_abell> and no app switcher either
Jan 03 02:12:39 <tim_abell> stability still eludes shr then
Jan 03 02:13:15 <tim_abell> it's a shame that the people who are ploughing away producing new great things don't have time to provide a stable version
Jan 03 02:16:24 <tim_abell> is it just me or is the current shr-u known to be broken?
Jan 03 02:21:41 <tim_abell> excellent. elightenment crashes every time i install a package
Jan 03 02:21:44 <tim_abell> way to go shr
Jan 03 02:23:56 <tim_abell> ah, crashed phonefsod
Jan 03 02:25:21 <linuxxr> is that the latest shr-u?
Jan 03 02:25:40 <linuxxr> or the tests shr-u
Jan 03 02:27:47 <tim_abell> i don't know about the tests one
Jan 03 02:29:28 <tim_abell> shr-lite-eglibc-ipk--20101218-om-gta02.rootfs.tar.gz
Jan 03 02:31:31 <tim_abell> any idea why my app switcher has gone missing?
Jan 03 02:31:58 <tim_abell> tapping the top bar doesn't bring it down any more
Jan 03 02:32:07 <tim_abell> makes the phone rather hard to use
Jan 03 02:32:19 <linuxxr> yup
Jan 03 02:33:15 <linuxxr> DISPLAY=:0 shr_elm_softkey&
Jan 03 02:33:46 <tim_abell> what does that do?
Jan 03 02:33:47 <linuxxr> maybe
Jan 03 02:34:15 <tim_abell> that works
Jan 03 02:34:24 <linuxxr> Rui gave us that command to fix that
Jan 03 02:34:27 <tim_abell> why's it not already running?
Jan 03 02:35:04 <linuxxr> i only know it works
Jan 03 02:36:23 <linuxxr> the question is will it stay working?
Jan 03 02:37:05 <tim_abell> i'm fed up with things breaking all the time
Jan 03 02:37:27 <linuxxr> qtmoko is crashing to
Jan 03 02:37:56 <tim_abell> i fell out with qtmoko after it randomly stopped telling me i had text messages and i nearly ended up divorced
Jan 03 02:38:06 <tim_abell> never went back
Jan 03 02:38:08 <linuxxr> ouch
Jan 03 02:38:31 <tim_abell> the freerunner was inches from ending up in the trash
Jan 03 02:38:53 <tim_abell> as usual
Jan 03 02:39:23 <linuxxr> divorce from a text  thats real sad
Jan 03 02:39:51 <tim_abell> people don't expect txts not to show up
Jan 03 02:40:08 <tim_abell> understandably
Jan 03 02:40:27 <tim_abell> missing one wouldn't be so bad, but missing them for days is terrible
Jan 03 02:40:54 <tim_abell> fortunately shr-t was not in too bad a shape at that point
Jan 03 02:44:15 <tim_abell> hurrah gprs is working this time
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