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Jan 09 06:45:58 <rooly> hiya guys!
Jan 09 11:18:26 <PBeck> ahoi
Jan 09 17:22:00 <yamitenshi> Hi, small question: Which distro would you guys recommend for daily use? I currently use QtMoko, which is great, except as far as I understand by reading the app development seems a bit cumbersome, plus I can't easily use my favourite development library :P
Jan 09 17:25:09 <PaulFertser> yamitenshi: other popular distro is SHR-unstable. And you can run plain Debian too.
Jan 09 17:26:33 <yamitenshi> SHR-unstable gives me some problems I'm still trying to work out (enlightement SEGV when SIM card present). I didn't know Debian was really usable as a daily use distro, might try that too :)
Jan 09 17:26:43 <Broam> qtmoko runs on top of debian
Jan 09 17:27:06 <Broam> I think there are more generic FSO packages like zhone that can be used to give you phone functionality
Jan 09 17:27:18 <Broam> caveat: I'm not really familiar with that
Jan 09 17:28:04 <yamitenshi> I guess so, might try that :) The manual for Debian on FR holds plenty of info for desktop environments and phone functionality, IIRC
Jan 09 17:28:37 <yamitenshi> I just remember it wasn't that great as a day-to-day distro, but that may have been resolved
Jan 09 17:31:10 <PaulFertser> Broam: zhone is not really usable.
Jan 09 17:31:32 <PaulFertser> I use my own Emacs UI for the phone functionality.
Jan 09 17:31:42 <Broam> PaulFertser: thanks for letting us know. I did say "i think" :)
Jan 09 17:31:49 * Broam won't recommend it for now
Jan 09 17:33:04 <PaulFertser> Broam: i think old zhone might be even incompatible with fso2/cornucopia's fsogsmd. But i do not really remember the details. There's also zhone2 in vala which can be used as a simple test app and it is compatible with fsogsmd but is not really fun to use.
Jan 09 17:33:28 <yamitenshi> bbl, dinner :)
Jan 09 17:33:29 <PaulFertser> yamitenshi: that's all about the purpose. I personally have always used only Debian on FR and it is my only cellphone.
Jan 09 17:33:44 <PaulFertser> But it's unfun mostly, though sorta works.
Jan 09 17:33:56 <PaulFertser> For me having debian is more important than convenience or stable and fast operation.
Jan 09 17:53:07 <gena2x> yamitenshi: i think you can also try android
Jan 09 17:53:35 <gena2x> probably it works, and anyway interesting to try :)
Jan 09 17:56:19 <yamitenshi> tried it, but I didn't like it. Can't quite recall why though...
Jan 09 17:57:16 <gena2x> it's slow :)
Jan 09 18:27:57 <yamitenshi> That might have been it, yeah, I do recall some unresponsiveness that bothered the hell out of me.
Jan 10 00:37:17 <linuxxr> why?
Jan 10 00:38:56 <linuxxr> why would shr testing 2011.1 have that menu bar bugg still?
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