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Jan 14 14:31:11 <zeno> hi all
Jan 14 14:31:21 <Broam> morning
Jan 14 14:31:57 <tim_abell> afternoon
Jan 14 14:32:04 <tim_abell> :)
Jan 14 14:32:08 <zeno> :) afternoon for me too :D
Jan 14 16:29:50 <djp_> how does the latest release of shr-u compare with qtmoko regards use as a daily phone (light use)?
Jan 14 16:38:06 <Broam> qtmoko is more stable...shr is doing some really neat stuff but they're still in flux last I heard
Jan 14 16:38:16 <Broam> I think they are stabalizing soon though
Jan 14 19:47:58 <PBeck> hi
Jan 14 20:50:13 <Broam> hi PBeck
Jan 14 21:50:31 <Sazius> I have trouble with a Kingston 8 GB microSD card in my freerunner. After a while it stops writing... is this a known problem, any workarounds? I'm using QtMoko now, but had same problem with SHR-U.
Jan 14 21:50:51 <lindi-> Sazius: dmesg?
Jan 14 21:51:17 <Sazius> mmc0:0001: error -110 reading SDIO_CCCR_INTx
Jan 14 21:51:22 <Sazius> mmcblk0: error -16 requesting status
Jan 14 21:51:56 <lindi-> Sazius: ok
Jan 14 21:52:15 <lindi-> Sazius: lower level SD stuff is a mystery to me
Jan 14 21:52:50 <Sazius> works fine with my Kingston 1 GB 
Jan 14 21:55:14 <Sazius> the 8 GB card also works fine with my Laptop (Debian testing), so must be something the Freerunner
Jan 14 21:55:27 <Broam> I've had android phones & sansa fuzes really not like 8gb cards
Jan 14 21:56:12 <Sazius> oh, my next idea was to try it with my sansa clip+ :)
Jan 14 22:03:26 <Broam> depends
Jan 14 22:03:35 <Broam> I think the card I have is just damaged
Jan 14 22:03:40 <Broam> might have ot hit it w/ badblocks
Jan 14 22:13:51 <Sazius> OK, I'm now writing 8 GB of data to the card from my computer... seems OK so far...
Jan 14 22:24:00 <Broam> boooooooooom
Jan 14 22:26:36 <Sazius> :)
Jan 14 23:08:01 <Sazius> worked fine with laptop and Sansa Clip+ with Rockbox...
Jan 14 23:08:11 <Sazius> strange problem w/ Freerunner then...
Jan 14 23:45:59 <Broam> FR has issues w/ certain sd cards
Jan 14 23:46:51 <emsyr> Broam: what's the problem?
Jan 14 23:47:41 <Broam> i have an 8gb sd card that doesn't work in FR or HTC Magic, and Fuze running rockbox...but I've other SD cards that don't work in FR but work in other devices
Jan 14 23:47:47 <Broam> I know FR is "picky"
Jan 14 23:48:07 <emsyr> I had great problem too.
Jan 14 23:49:03 <emsyr> I found out that it was about read/write timing
Jan 14 23:50:38 <emsyr> The glamo_mci.sd_max_clk parameter was too high for my sd cards
Jan 14 23:51:26 <emsyr> When I managed to decrease this parameter me sd cards worked again without problem
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