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Jan 20 12:26:19 <L1man_> hi all
Jan 20 12:29:42 <L1man_> I just find on ebay a FreeRunner GTA02 A6  sn.8a8704522.
Jan 20 12:30:11 <L1man_> it is A6 revision without BuzzFix and others...
Jan 20 12:31:40 <L1man_> ..my question is: is it possible to do all A7 fix from myself?
Jan 20 12:34:44 <PaulFertser> L1man_: buzzfix is essential to use as a phone.
Jan 20 12:34:57 <PaulFertser> L1man_: it's moderately easy for anybody who's doing electronics nowadays.
Jan 20 12:35:28 <PaulFertser> L1man_: if you can desolder 0402R, you can do that.
Jan 20 12:38:53 <PaulFertser> L1man_: #1024 fix is reasonably easy too.
Jan 20 13:20:19 <L1man_> thanks
Jan 20 13:23:49 <L1man_> where I can find detail of BuzzFix resolution, I search on wiki and I find "There is a fix for it, but it requires highly technical hardware skills."
Jan 20 13:24:07 <L1man_> on http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GSM_buzz
Jan 20 13:24:14 <PaulFertser> L1man_: hold on
Jan 20 13:24:42 <PaulFertser> L1man_: http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/GSM_EMI_noise/big-C_rework_SOP_rc2.pdf
Jan 20 13:59:10 <L1man_> PaulFertser: thanks!
Jan 20 14:05:39 <PaulFertser> L1man_: welcome
Jan 20 14:20:47 <L1man_> for someonelse how read this conversaation ... #1024 could be fiz with this rework http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/hardware/2009-May/001192.html
Jan 20 14:21:00 <L1man_> fix ...no fiz
Jan 20 14:21:48 <PaulFertser> L1man_: yes
Jan 20 14:44:06 <L1man_> hi again. Could you give me more details about 
Jan 20 14:44:24 <L1man_> Better recovers from completely empty or no battery  on "http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_revisions#GTA02_A6_to_A7_changes"
Jan 20 14:45:41 <PaulFertser> L1man_: A7 has even a bigger capacitor on CPU supply (or something like that), thus allowing to boot using usb-only even better. But do not bother, it's not that important. 
Jan 20 14:47:15 <PaulFertser> L1man_: i mean mostly my A6 is able to start on usb supply too. I've to admit i once had to recover from flat battery in a tricky way by manually holding lab psu connectors attached to the terminals, then fully booting and hot-swapping for the real battery.
Jan 20 14:47:36 <PaulFertser> But with PC at home there's no need for that trick. Or with a spare nokia battery.
Jan 20 14:48:35 <Tm_T> spare nokia battery is good to have,ye
Jan 20 14:49:28 <L1man_> why? It fit in battery connector of freeruner? which nokia battery model?
Jan 20 14:49:49 <PaulFertser> L1man_: BL-6C is the best but 4C and 5C also fit (but have less capacity).
Jan 20 14:50:03 <PaulFertser> L1man_: you can read more about that in battery q&a.
Jan 20 14:50:16 <PaulFertser> !battery
Jan 20 14:50:25 <PaulFertser> apt: come on man
Jan 20 14:50:51 <PaulFertser> apt: you nasty boy
Jan 20 14:55:29 <L1man_> yes battery fix described here... http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_Hardware_Issues#Can.27t_boot_with_discharged_or_missing_battery_.28FIXED.29
Jan 20 14:55:57 <L1man_> only one more question... 
Jan 20 14:56:14 <L1man_> ... there's a way to search open issues... 
Jan 20 14:56:28 <L1man_> ... from http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/.
Jan 20 14:56:29 <L1man_> ?
Jan 20 14:56:47 <L1man_> http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2476...seams to not be an issue?!?!  ;-)
Jan 20 14:56:53 <L1man_> http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2476 
Jan 20 15:31:17 <Jogu> hi there
Jan 20 15:34:32 <Jogu> I'm based in the UK and have 3 pretty much brand new unused what I think are GTA01BV4 neo1973 handets... are they likely to be any use to anyone, and if so who :-) Not after a huge amount for them but would at least like to get postage covered and something above that :)
Jan 20 15:37:07 <SpeedEvil> http://shop.ebay.co.uk/?_from=R40&_trksid=p272.m570.l1313&_nkw=neo1973&_sacat=See-All-Categories
Jan 20 15:37:11 <SpeedEvil> Or not.
Jan 20 15:37:53 <SpeedEvil> I'm unsure wha the state of the software is currently supporting the neo19773 - though I have one.
Jan 20 15:38:08 <Jogu> hehe - even the batteries there haven't sold as far as the ebay records go back :-)
Jan 20 15:38:42 <Jogu> I can't quite bring myself to just throw them away, but they're of no use at all to me
Jan 20 15:38:55 <SpeedEvil> :/
Jan 20 15:39:00 <SpeedEvil> Know how that goes.
Jan 20 15:39:43 <Jogu> one hasn't even been opened :-( the project they were bought for was canned before it even got going
Jan 20 15:40:14 <Tm_T> Jogu: let me ask around a bit
Jan 20 15:41:09 <Jogu> Tm_T> would be great, thanks. If anyone bites details are on http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Classifieds#Europe
Jan 20 17:17:22 <PBeck> hi
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