**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Mar 15 02:59:57 2011 Mar 15 04:55:00 hi! where i can buy Neo FreeRunner (GTA02) 7+? Mar 15 04:55:15 i'm from Russia Mar 15 04:55:23 zayka: hey Mar 15 04:55:29 PaulFertser, =) Mar 15 04:55:37 zayka: probably the easiest would be to buy a used one. Mar 15 04:55:43 yes!! Mar 15 04:55:53 zayka: you can try to ask on lor forums or something Mar 15 04:56:03 ok... Mar 15 04:56:22 is it good phone for gentoo? Mar 15 05:00:56 zayka: it depends Mar 15 05:02:28 will be GTA03 better for me? Mar 15 05:05:21 is it good to buy GTA02 on ebay? =) Mar 15 05:08:47 zayka: there'll be no gta03 Mar 15 05:09:11 zayka: i do not think anyone really uses gentoo on gta02 for a day-to-day telephony Mar 15 05:09:22 zayka: it's ok to buy on ebay i think. Mar 15 05:10:10 zayka: btw, being in Russia it's trivial to apply the hardware fixes yourself or with a little help from some folks, so i think you shouldn't care that much about the revision. Mar 15 05:11:33 PaulFertser, what is hardware fixes? Mar 15 05:12:19 zayka: the stock FR (gta02v5 and v6) needs at least "buzz fix" to be usable as a phone. Mar 15 05:16:28 PaulFertser, bad!!! Mar 15 05:16:43 PaulFertser, i'm a cute russian girl! i can't fix that %(( Mar 15 05:17:10 http://static.black-frames.net/images/live-in-russia.jpg Mar 15 05:17:13 zayka: i hope cute russian girl can find someone to fix it for you. Mar 15 05:17:40 zayka: where do you live. Mar 15 05:19:13 PaulFertser, here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siberia Mar 15 05:19:51 and what is (GTA02) 7+? is it A7? Mar 15 05:19:58 zayka: bbiab Mar 15 05:21:30 PaulFertser, hi =)) Mar 15 05:21:53 zayka: i'm pretty sure there's plenty of folks who can do the buzzfix for you, it's ~trivial for anyone who knows how to solder. Mar 15 05:22:21 7+ is probably A7 with some additional fixes, there's no "official" terminology about it, it's up to reseller to tell what that + means. Mar 15 05:22:33 ok! thx!! Mar 15 05:22:45 i'll try to buy it =) Mar 15 05:23:02 will gentoo work well on it? %) Mar 15 05:23:05 zayka: do all siberian girls wear a respirator? ;) Mar 15 05:23:24 zayka: for day-to-day telephony -- i'm afraid not. Mar 15 05:23:41 zayka: though i admit i do not know current status of gentoo support. Mar 15 05:23:47 But as far as i have heard... Mar 15 05:23:58 PaulFertser, not all... http://media.fakeposters.com/results/2009/07/22/ocmln1ashv.jpg Mar 15 05:24:13 zayka: btw, OpenEmbedded is quite like gentoo, but harder, you'd love it ;) Mar 15 05:25:31 wow Mar 15 05:25:52 i'm #gentoo-ru operator... i want to use gentoo on my phone.... Mar 15 05:26:17 Well, i'm using Debian with FSO from git natively compiled on the phone itself. Mar 15 05:26:30 I guess you can do the same with Gentoo, but it'd be a considerable effort. Mar 15 05:26:35 At least it was for me. Mar 15 05:26:51 (natively + distcc i mean) Mar 15 05:30:27 Final reconnection, yeah. (my new isp is moronic too, why all of them are like that, sigh...) Mar 15 05:31:37 people say that i should buy n900 and use chroot but i want neo =) Mar 15 05:31:58 zayka: well... Mar 15 05:32:00 i'm using crossdev distcc everyday =) Mar 15 05:32:10 zayka: i have n900 but i can't use it as a phone at all. Mar 15 05:32:34 zayka: no fully working telephony stack available Mar 15 05:32:50 oh!!! Mar 15 05:33:01 That said, n900 is much nicer hardware. Mar 15 05:33:46 But maemo was apparently written under the influence, so it's generally no fun for a hacker. Probably enough of the fun (coupled with plenty of frustration) for a average geek though. Mar 15 14:15:54 uhm where can I get selinux-policy 3.9.16-4 Mar 15 14:17:14 uf pardon wrong channel Mar 15 14:24:12 social anyway, check koji history Mar 15 14:28:12 it's not in koji > http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=32 or did you mean something else? Mar 15 14:40:04 hmm I have anjuta and evolution running and somehow while working on anjuta both got stuck somewhere around gdk_x11_lookup_xdisplay and gtk_selection_owner_set_for_display eating all cpu any idea how to debug it? Mar 15 14:40:25 seems to be related to dualhead again :/ Mar 15 15:09:13 social looks like the latest revision is 3.9.16-3 ... so I think you can get it in the future :) Mar 15 15:10:10 >.< go to #fedora-qa, finaly I have my tabs in order ,) Mar 15 18:11:38 Hi all, the mail server seem to be down again, does anyone know what is wrong ? Mar 15 18:14:41 This world seems to have quite some inherent "wrongness" :/ Mar 15 18:51:23 hi guys! is lists.openmoko.org down again? it is unreachable from days Mar 15 18:52:41 Yep, and the mail is undeliverable. Mar 15 18:53:39 infact I noticed it... anyone knows why? Mar 15 18:54:11 The VM is down and the admins are said to take care of that as soon as possible. Mar 15 18:55:40 ok, so we have to wait... thanks! Mar 16 00:34:52 hello shiny happy people. Mar 16 00:34:55 people.openmoko.org is down, so I can't get the moko11 firmware.Can anyone point me to a mirror? Mar 16 00:46:05 could anyone please share a working link to flash-moko11_uSD-image.tar.gz? thank you. Mar 16 00:46:23 Sorry - haven't downloaded it Mar 16 00:47:17 yes, I don't expect it to be easy, it's 2 years old and people rely on the main site... Mar 16 00:50:31 DocScrutinizer Mar 16 00:50:40 Oh - he went for a walk, I think Mar 16 00:51:00 I'm back Mar 16 00:51:24 SpeedEvil: wazzup? Mar 16 00:51:44 (12:31:26 AM) mokomoko: people.openmoko.org is down, so I can't get the moko11 firmware.Can anyone point me to a mirror? Mar 16 00:52:18 hell fire and brmstone, I need to travel Berlin kick some asses Mar 16 00:52:32 mokomoko: moment please Mar 16 00:52:35 ok Mar 16 00:56:32 anyway, kinda strange there is only one (1) copy of the file in the entire internet... :) would hope at least some distro would carry it, but google can't find it. Mar 16 01:04:34 mokomoko: uploading to http://joerg.cloud-7.de/ - ETA 70min. Please ping a reminder to move it to the apache folder if I don't manage to execute that mv after upload finished Mar 16 01:07:30 mokomoko: please also /query roh and ask how long until finally om.org is back to normal operation. It's 4 days now that this box is down Mar 16 01:07:49 DocScrutinizer: thanks a bunch. I don't I'll be awake by then, so I'll do that in the morning. :) Mar 16 01:08:23 NOW is a god time to kick Roh's lazy arse ;-D Mar 16 01:08:28 good* Mar 16 01:08:29 :D Mar 16 01:09:36 coming from you it would carry more weight... ;) Mar 16 01:15:18 I already put al my weight into it, since saturday Mar 16 01:15:36 nite nite all. I'll check the upload in the morning and chew Roh's behind when I catch him in the room. Mar 16 01:15:37 seems it needs ome additional momentum Mar 16 01:16:30 thx Mar 16 01:16:32 he's never in this 'room', and rarely on om-devel. Frequently online on freenode though Mar 16 01:16:46 oh, ok Mar 16 01:23:18 http://downloads.openmoko.org/firmware/calypso/ Mar 16 01:23:36 mokomoko: ^^^ Mar 16 01:24:17 mn, the wrong file Mar 16 01:25:22 thx. I'd prefer the sd card image, but if that's what we got... Mar 16 01:29:55 roh also hopes it will come up soon. ;) Mar 16 02:52:31 http://joerg.cloud-7.de/flash-moko11_uSD-image.tar.gz **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Mar 16 02:59:57 2011