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Mar 22 09:02:19 <zayka> hi!
Mar 22 09:02:25 <zayka> is that good? http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=GTA04
Mar 22 09:24:55 <DocScrutinizer> sure
Mar 22 09:26:29 <zayka> docscrutinizer should i build another kernel to use it?
Mar 22 09:27:02 <zayka> DocScrutinizer is CFLAGS the same?
Mar 22 09:27:04 <DocScrutinizer> errr, I think that page has links on how to use it
Mar 22 09:37:28 <nullix> zayka:  http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=GTA04 : date is 1st April... Is it a joke ?
Mar 22 09:39:31 <zayka> nullix, i think is no
Mar 22 10:33:52 <n3v3rmind> hi
Mar 22 10:34:34 <zayka> n3v3rmind, hi
Mar 22 11:51:39 <DocScrutinizer> well, I'd think rollout of product at 1. Apr for sure is a joke
Mar 22 11:55:36 <zayka> DocScrutinizer http://projects.goldelico.com/p/gta04-main/
Mar 22 11:56:00 <DocScrutinizer> ?
Mar 22 12:05:38 <Wonka> anyone involved in GTA04? any chance to easily hack a (better) camera module myself?
Mar 22 12:41:05 <DocScrutinizer51> Wonka: sure
Mar 22 12:41:31 <Wonka> cool
Mar 22 12:41:47 <DocScrutinizer51> aiui (not seen any shematics) they use OMAP videocam IF, so you can get a N900 cam module as well
Mar 22 12:42:08 <Wonka> because 1.3Mpx is so 2003...
Mar 22 12:42:33 <Wonka> what resolution are those?
Mar 22 12:43:20 <DocScrutinizer51> ~1300000/640
Mar 22 12:43:21 <apt> 2031.25
Mar 22 12:43:23 <Wonka> "5.0 MP (2,584×1,938)" says wikipedia...
Mar 22 12:43:43 <DocScrutinizer51> ~1300000/1024
Mar 22 12:43:44 <Wonka> ~1300000/1024
Mar 22 12:43:44 <apt> 1269.53125
Mar 22 12:44:18 <DocScrutinizer51> ~1300000/800
Mar 22 12:44:18 <apt> 1625
Mar 22 12:44:44 <Wonka> ~1300000/1600
Mar 22 12:44:45 <apt> 812.5
Mar 22 17:25:43 <social> anyone knows maps similar to http://www.freemap.sk/#m=T,p=49.21122|19.74028|13|T but for whole world?
Mar 22 17:26:37 <social> I realy like their turistic version of of openstreetmaps
Mar 22 21:18:07 <ShadesEdge> Hello :P
Mar 22 21:18:32 <ShadesEdge> Is this the channel for OpenMoko only or for Neo Freerunner also?
Mar 22 21:18:34 <ShadesEdge> :)
Mar 22 21:19:30 <ShadesEdge> Ah nvm
Mar 22 21:26:01 <SpeedEvil> ShadesEdge: yes
Mar 22 21:26:17 <ShadesEdge> ok
Mar 22 21:26:39 <ShadesEdge> SpeedEvil: What distro do you recommend me for my Neo Freerunner?
Mar 22 21:26:59 <lindi-> ShadesEdge: depends on what you value
Mar 22 21:27:22 <ShadesEdge> I use Arch Linux on my computer
Mar 22 21:27:32 <ShadesEdge> But Arch Mobile is in developpement
Mar 22 21:27:37 <SpeedEvil> Sorry - I've not actually had an OS running on my neo1973 for some time.
Mar 22 21:28:24 <ShadesEdge> So you have a plain Neo Freerunner?
Mar 22 21:28:26 <ShadesEdge> :/
Mar 22 21:30:00 <emsyr> ShadesEdge: you may test the distros yourself and decide which one suits you best..
Mar 22 21:30:26 <ShadesEdge> emsyr: I can't download much
Mar 22 21:30:56 <PaulFertser> ShadesEdge: are you a tinkerer or rather a user?
Mar 22 21:31:27 <ShadesEdge> I am an Arch User, not developper
Mar 22 21:31:28 <ShadesEdge> :P
Mar 22 21:31:35 <PaulFertser> ShadesEdge: then probably you'll like QtMoko.
Mar 22 21:31:56 <ShadesEdge> KDE is based of QT, right?
Mar 22 21:32:00 <PaulFertser> Yes
Mar 22 21:32:03 <ShadesEdge> Is there something with Gtk?
Mar 22 21:32:06 <ShadesEdge> :)
Mar 22 21:32:14 <ShadesEdge> Just asking
Mar 22 21:33:15 <PaulFertser> ShadesEdge: install Debian and whatever you want on it.
Mar 22 21:33:33 <ShadesEdge> Okay, ill try Gentoo, looks better
Mar 22 21:33:36 <ShadesEdge> And from git
Mar 22 21:33:37 <ShadesEdge> :P
Mar 22 21:33:42 <PaulFertser> ShadesEdge: but i'm not aware if there's any fully-functional gtk application for telephony.
Mar 22 21:33:58 <ShadesEdge> : /
Mar 22 21:34:01 <PaulFertser> ShadesEdge: except for the Emacs :) and lindi-'s kapula (which implements basic functions)
Mar 22 21:34:30 <ShadesEdge> Ok, I think i will keep openmoko
Mar 22 21:34:41 <PaulFertser> ShadesEdge: what's openmoko?
Mar 22 21:34:50 <emsyr> ShadesEdge: ask in gentoo-openmoko channel for more
Mar 22 21:35:10 <PaulFertser> ShadesEdge: SHR is very interesting, but i'm not sure if it's recommended to use "testing" or "unstable".
Mar 22 21:35:18 <PaulFertser> ShadesEdge: that said, it's quite fast and cool.
Mar 22 21:35:23 <emsyr> I think QtMoko is the most suitable for everyday use
Mar 22 21:35:47 <emsyr> testing branch is supposed to be stable
Mar 22 21:36:03 * PaulFertser uses Debian since buying the device > 2 years ago.
Mar 22 21:37:26 <ShadesEdge> Okay, Gentoo or Android?
Mar 22 21:37:31 <ShadesEdge> They look great
Mar 22 21:38:33 <emsyr> I use gentoo  on my laptop
Mar 22 21:38:53 <emsyr> I will try it on my fr later on
Mar 22 21:39:14 <PaulFertser> ShadesEdge: Android is not a *nix system
Mar 22 21:39:48 <emsyr> and I think is not fully functional yet
Mar 22 21:40:06 <ShadesEdge> PaulFertser: Still Open Source and I think it (probably, it is Android) has many apps
Mar 22 21:40:14 <ShadesEdge> Am I right? (i think yes)
Mar 22 21:40:23 <ShadesEdge> (i think no)
Mar 22 21:40:25 <ShadesEdge> xD
Mar 22 21:41:29 <PaulFertser> ShadesEdge: Android itself is "open source" but without closed components it's useless on most devices, and also apps for it use a strange abstraction layer (dalvic vm) which severely limits performance and capabilities.
Mar 22 21:41:50 <ShadesEdge> Gentoo would be the best choice?
Mar 22 21:46:18 <PaulFertser> ShadesEdge: i use Gentoo on my laptop, but i choose Debian for FR, as it's less hassle.
Mar 22 21:49:36 <PaulFertser> But if you want to actuallly use it as a phone, you're probably better with SHR or QtMoko.
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