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Apr 16 03:48:00 <ftn> hey there, Do you know of any image viewer similar to neon or OMView for Qtmoko?, please
Apr 16 15:46:03 <ftn> Hey there. Do you know of any image viewer similar to neon or OMView for qtmoko?, please
Apr 16 22:29:49 <gena2x> hi guys. anyone can help me with my battery problem?
Apr 16 22:30:07 <gena2x> PaulFertser, may be you not sleeping? :)
Apr 16 22:30:43 <gena2x> now i got multimeter :)
Apr 16 22:31:11 <gena2x> and disassembled fr
Apr 16 22:31:21 <gena2x> seem battery output is 4V
Apr 16 22:31:29 <gena2x> pins are ok
Apr 16 22:31:53 <gena2x> what also i should try to check?
Apr 16 22:32:14 <SpeedEvil> Congrats.What is the battreryproblem?
Apr 16 22:32:52 <gena2x> SpeedEvil, hi. basically once i just removed battery to reboot my fr
Apr 16 22:33:16 <gena2x> but it never boot from battery after that
Apr 16 22:33:48 <gena2x> i can (with bells and whistles) boot it from usb power
Apr 16 22:33:49 <SpeedEvil> Removed the battery when powerred by USB?
Apr 16 22:34:22 <gena2x> it works
Apr 16 22:34:49 <gena2x> but even if i'll leave it for 'charge' for a while, it doesn't boot.
Apr 16 22:35:15 <gena2x> in fast it can boot without battery while on usb, but CAN'T if battery installed
Apr 16 22:35:24 <gena2x> s/in fast/in fact/
Apr 16 22:35:24 <apt> gena2x meant: in fact it can boot without battery while on usb, but CAN'T if battery installed
Apr 16 22:35:49 <SpeedEvil> As I understand it, powering it without the battery inserted cand o damage.
Apr 16 22:35:55 <SpeedEvil> I don't know more details though
Apr 16 22:36:39 <gena2x> ok, but how to fix current situation?
Apr 16 22:37:25 <SpeedEvil> Some classes of damage are going to be not fixble.
Apr 16 22:37:35 <SpeedEvil> At best you're likely to be looking at a repair job.
Apr 16 22:37:50 <gena2x> i have /dev/hands
Apr 16 22:37:55 <SpeedEvil> However I'm not certain as I've not investigated this in detail
Apr 16 22:38:11 <SpeedEvil> Hot-air rework station too?
Apr 16 22:38:34 <gena2x> and i tried to boot it without battery _after_ problem with battery happened
Apr 16 22:38:49 <SpeedEvil> ah
Apr 16 22:38:56 <gena2x> so i guess nobattery boot can't be reason of my problem...
Apr 16 22:39:04 <gena2x> no, only tools to solder
Apr 16 22:39:11 <gena2x> and multimeter
Apr 16 22:39:38 <gena2x> and as i did buzz-fix, i feel power :)
Apr 16 22:40:16 <DocScrutinizer> gta02 is safe to "operate" without battery
Apr 16 22:40:56 <DocScrutinizer> gta01 had scream of death
Apr 16 22:41:04 <gena2x> nice
Apr 16 22:42:47 <DocScrutinizer> I guess boot failing on USB with battery is related to charger overload
Apr 16 22:45:13 <DocScrutinizer> ID detection, max USB load in pcf50633, even wallcharger with foldback OC prot
Apr 16 22:49:10 <gena2x> hm. seem i am not described all details, it fails to boot on battery alone too
Apr 16 22:49:31 <gena2x> no effect from pressing power button
Apr 16 22:49:33 <gena2x> hmmmm
Apr 16 22:49:58 <gena2x> no, power button itself is working, as it works in u-boot menu
Apr 16 22:53:02 <gena2x> and same thing if i am using wallcharger
Apr 16 23:00:39 <SpeedEvil> Oops
Apr 16 23:02:11 <gena2x> omg... my notebook... it downloads at 1MiB/s is mplayer is running and 80Kb/s is i am stopping mplayer!!! cooool
Apr 16 23:02:24 <gena2x> s/is/if/g
Apr 16 23:02:24 <apt> gena2x meant: omg... my notebook... it downloads at 1MiB/s if mplayer if running and 80Kb/s if i am stopping mplayer!!! cooool
Apr 16 23:04:31 <gena2x> one of best bugs i ever seem
Apr 16 23:04:41 <gena2x> *seen
Apr 17 00:25:35 <gena2x> i can see 4.11 volts on VBAT from battery on testpad inside fr
Apr 17 00:26:21 <gena2x> do i have any chances to find and fix problem or better to throw fr away?
Apr 17 00:26:45 <gena2x> at least may be some idea what to check?
Apr 17 01:20:57 <gena2x> i shortcut R1752 and it seem start working
Apr 17 01:21:03 <gena2x> but what does that mean?
Apr 17 01:21:21 <gena2x> that U1705 thing is dead but PCF is alive?
Apr 17 01:21:53 <gena2x> important moment that before  death it were registering to GSM network for may be 5 minutes but fail because operator disabled sim
Apr 17 01:22:04 <gena2x> heeey anyyyone with electronic knowledge, help me bringing up my fr please :)
Apr 17 01:23:38 <SpeedEvil> Sorry - mostly asleep
Apr 17 01:28:54 <gena2x> hmmmmmmmmmmmm
Apr 17 01:29:11 <gena2x> it start working!
Apr 17 01:29:16 <gena2x> but why?
Apr 17 01:29:17 <gena2x> hm
Apr 17 01:29:38 <gena2x> may be something got in some weird state
Apr 17 01:29:40 <gena2x> ...
Apr 17 01:30:00 <gena2x> ok, anyway i am extremly happy
Apr 17 01:30:16 <gena2x> SpeedEvil, good night :)
Apr 17 02:14:31 <linuxxr> new news
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