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Jun 27 05:56:45 <DocScrutinizer> moo
Jun 27 10:17:27 <marenostrum> Hello. Page http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributors tells us something about distributors and price comparison. There, I see three different FreeRunner versions: A7, A7+ and A7++. I know some about the "buzz fix" and its mentioned on a separate colomn on the table on that page. Apart from that, what is the difference(s) between A7, A7+ and A7++. I failed to find an official explanation on that matter. 
Jun 27 10:18:37 <PaulFertser> marenostrum: there's no official explanation as there's no official A7+ version.
Jun 27 10:19:09 <PaulFertser> marenostrum: those are custom fixes applied in-field by the distributors, so you've to ask the seller about the particular differences.
Jun 27 10:21:07 <marenostrum> PaulFertser, So in your opinion a plain A7 without + and ++ -with buzz fix of course- OK for "general purposes" whatever it means?
Jun 27 10:25:38 <PaulFertser> marenostrum: not exactly, sorry. My opinion is that you should consider which fixes you really need depending on your purposes and act accordingly. I can explain the meaning of the fixes when it's unclear.
Jun 27 10:29:10 <marenostrum> PaulFertser, Thank you for the answers. What I understand is, its not a big deal to go with a "plain" A7 (without + and ++) because this is the official version and most probably most of the community use that version. (I'm not asking as "Am I wrong?" for not taking your time. :) ) Thank tou very much.
Jun 27 10:31:26 <PaulFertser> marenostrum: buzzfix is important.
Jun 27 10:31:41 <PaulFertser> marenostrum: i assume most of the community did it one way or the other.
Jun 27 10:32:05 <PaulFertser> marenostrum: 1024 fix is important for the maximum suspend time, it almost doubles it.
Jun 27 10:32:24 <PaulFertser> marenostrum: bass fix is mandatory if you want to listen to the music.
Jun 27 10:32:28 <PaulFertser> marenostrum: so it's up to you.
Jun 27 10:32:52 <marenostrum> PaulFertser, I see. I mean, I'll go with one with a buzz fix but with no + and ++ apart from buzz fix.
Jun 27 10:33:00 <jluis_> marenostrum: al A7 have buz fix . first + is 1024 fix, second + bass fix
Jun 27 10:33:55 <marenostrum> jluis, Are 1024 fix and bass fix critical?
Jun 27 10:35:21 <PaulFertser> marenostrum: i've just told you that...
Jun 27 10:35:54 <marenostrum> PaulFertser, jluis Sorry I read Paul's last answers lately. I understand it now. Thanks a lot.
Jun 27 10:36:28 <PaulFertser> :)
Jun 27 10:36:38 <jluis_> as PaulFertser said it depends on your usage ( I've it buzz fixed only)
Jun 27 10:37:35 <marenostrum> jluis, Thank you. I got it. Now I am going to compare the prices again. :) Thanks.
Jun 27 15:46:56 <DocScrutinizer> seems like my buzzfix paper was one of the most useful and sustainable jobs I've ever accomplished :-)
Jun 27 15:48:46 <SpeedEvil> :)
Jun 27 15:50:01 <DocScrutinizer> NB even A7 has just a builtin buzzfix, and is not fixing the root cause
Jun 27 15:50:23 <DocScrutinizer> A8 had, but alas it was a bit late :-)
Jun 27 15:51:23 <DocScrutinizer> I think there never were more than 5 A8
Jun 27 15:52:57 <DocScrutinizer> ...while we already worried about running out of hw-vesioning bits on GPIO for going A9   XP
Jun 27 15:55:55 <DocScrutinizer> I'd have used some R-C then, with a timing changing from version to version, rather than putting one more GPIO on it 
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