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Sep 05 18:24:55 <snippz> Hi guys
Sep 05 18:25:45 <snippz> i have trouble finding out how to set up a environment on ubuntu 11.04 for building openmoke for the neo freerunner
Sep 05 18:26:02 <snippz> could anyone assist me with this?
Sep 05 18:26:26 <SpeedEvil> Sorry - never done ubuntu
Sep 05 18:27:13 <PaulFertser> snippz: what do you mean by "building openmoku"?
Sep 05 18:27:49 <snippz> getting a toolchain ready for development on openmoko
Sep 05 18:28:17 <snippz> ive been going by instructions for 8.04 from the wiki
Sep 05 18:28:35 <snippz> SpeedEvil, what OS do you use for development?
Sep 05 18:28:39 <PaulFertser> snippz: for which distro are you going to do your development?
Sep 05 18:28:57 <snippz> Android
Sep 05 18:29:48 <PaulFertser> snippz: then i guess you should follow some android guides, here i guess there's nobody left who's interested in that kind of "os".
Sep 05 18:30:04 <snippz> ok
Sep 05 18:30:10 <snippz> how come noone is interested?
Sep 05 18:30:23 <snippz> which distro gets devved on the most nowadays?
Sep 05 18:30:45 <snippz> im currently in the research phase so im wanting to learn as much as possible :)
Sep 05 18:30:55 <PaulFertser> snippz: basically, android sucks from a free software developers' point of view, that's a strange OS, incompatible with anything else, using some questionable means etc etc.
Sep 05 18:31:21 <PaulFertser> snippz: i guess SHR (OE-based) is the most advanced nowadays.
Sep 05 18:31:33 <snippz> well my final plan is to roll my own distro for the neo freerunner
Sep 05 18:31:44 <snippz> but i want to learn from the most advanced one
Sep 05 18:31:52 <snippz> i guess itl be shr then :)
Sep 05 18:34:53 <pespin> snippz, what do you have in mind about your own distro? standard linux distro with Xserver? then you should try SHR :)
Sep 05 18:35:31 <pespin> you'll find info on how to set up and sdk to build apps and images for your device :)
Sep 05 18:35:39 <pespin> on the wiki
Sep 05 18:36:41 <pespin> if you are just looking for phone features, you can try a distro based on Qt.. was it Qtopia?
Sep 05 18:37:16 <Heinervdm> Qtmoko
Sep 05 18:38:11 <pespin> yeah, that one hehe
Sep 05 19:15:36 <snippz> im back again
Sep 05 19:15:51 <snippz> i have in mind a distro like tails
Sep 05 19:16:04 <snippz> but then with phone option obviously :D
Sep 05 19:29:57 <PaulFertser> snippz: tails?
Sep 05 19:36:20 <PaulFertser> snippz: i'd rather like to see folks improving OE, Debian or Gentoo, instead of inventing their own distro.
Sep 05 20:11:57 <radekp_> snippz: hi, i'd start with prebuild images, before starting to compile anything, i think you should try SHR, Debian and QtMoko
Sep 05 20:24:57 <PaulFertser> snippz: btw, for everyday usage the most folks seem to be happy with QtMoko
Sep 05 20:38:31 <snippz> tails is a privacy minded distro, i could work on debian, but i dont think much of my commits would fit in
Sep 05 20:38:51 <snippz> tails has everything crypted and is generally user unfriendly
Sep 05 20:39:05 <snippz> its just very secure even agains governments
Sep 05 21:29:21 <digim0nk> are there working debian rootfs n kernel images available for download for gta02
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