**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Sep 12 02:59:57 2011 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Sep 13 01:52:38 2011 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Sep 13 19:40:14 2011 Sep 13 22:54:06 <_x_X_X_x_> hii Sep 13 22:54:16 <_x_X_X_x_> how the usb work? Sep 13 22:55:31 <_x_X_X_x_> i try to connect usb mouse to the openmoko and type lsusb Sep 13 22:55:47 <_x_X_X_x_> but i cant see any changes Sep 13 22:59:58 You need to enable the USB host. Sep 13 23:00:04 I'm unsure how this works Sep 13 23:00:16 <_x_X_X_x_> how i do it? Sep 13 23:02:34 Sorry - no idea - maybe wait round for someone with a clue, or look at the wiki - what OS? Sep 13 23:02:59 <_x_X_X_x_> ser Sep 13 23:03:04 <_x_X_X_x_> shr Sep 13 23:03:19 <_x_X_X_x_> something like that Sep 13 23:07:02 <_x_X_X_x_> the keyboard always pop-up Sep 13 23:08:41 <_x_X_X_x_> SpeedEvil, this? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_host Sep 13 23:11:06 Unsure - sorry Sep 13 23:11:51 <_x_X_X_x_> now in the first time i connect to wifi!! with the openmoko!! Sep 13 23:12:49 <[Rui]> _x_X_X_x_: great Sep 13 23:14:00 <_x_X_X_x_> i try SSH over wifi... Sep 13 23:14:17 <_x_X_X_x_> i get this "Someone could be eavesdropping on you right now (man-in-the-middle attack)!" Sep 13 23:15:11 I think that means incorrect host key in ~/.ssh/authorised_hosts Sep 13 23:15:15 or something like that Sep 13 23:16:01 <_x_X_X_x_> ok Sep 13 23:16:28 <_x_X_X_x_> i delete it from the know host an now i get this Sep 13 23:16:36 <_x_X_X_x_> ssh: connect to host 192.168.100.24 port 22: No route to host Sep 13 23:23:37 <_x_X_X_x_> from some reason the wifi tern off Sep 13 23:47:16 <_x_X_X_x_> OMG!@#!#@#$# I smell something burned !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 Sep 13 23:47:49 <_x_X_X_x_> SpeedEvil, [Rui] Sep 13 23:47:58 x x x x : I'm bitbaking, but I hope you don't smell that .. Sep 13 23:48:37 <_x_X_X_x_> bitbaking ?? Sep 13 23:49:23 the process to build software for freerunner on a "normal" pc (cross compile) Sep 13 23:49:37 That is, for Freerunner and other devices Sep 13 23:49:46 I hope you are not baking your Freerunner? Sep 13 23:50:42 <_x_X_X_x_> I try to connect HUB to the USB Port of the Opemmoko Sep 13 23:51:16 ah, I have fried a usb hub in that way as well ... It only does power now, not data anymore Sep 13 23:51:24 but in my case, the freerunner is still OK Sep 13 23:52:13 Do you only want to connect mouse, keyboard or webcam, or also supply power? Sep 13 23:52:51 <_x_X_X_x_> yes.. keyboard, mouse, webcam.. Sep 13 23:53:48 as long as it is not a powered hub, I can not imagine burning smells Sep 13 23:53:50 <_x_X_X_x_> now I'm without the battery and it work on the USB only.. and it look good.. charging.. Sep 13 23:54:02 Ah, OK :-) Sep 13 23:54:44 <_x_X_X_x_> i Tray to build the converter.. to usb mini Sep 13 23:54:57 I gave up after frying the USB hub, mostly because I ran out of hubs ;-) Sep 13 23:55:58 Hehehe.... me to. It was OK, but later I found a usb-female-to-usb-female converter Sep 13 23:56:06 <_x_X_X_x_> I dont know what to do Sep 13 23:56:35 what are you stuck at? Is the converter ok? Sep 13 23:57:08 <_x_X_X_x_> how i can check? Sep 13 23:57:50 I saw you already found the USB-host page... There's two switches for USB: one for power and one for host/slave Sep 13 23:58:19 Usually the FR is in slave/receive power Sep 13 23:58:27 <_x_X_X_x_> one sec i show you pic of the convertor Sep 13 23:59:00 if you switch to host, it could be that you need to switch power as well Sep 14 00:01:45 <_x_X_X_x_> now the moko off!!! Sep 14 00:01:56 <_x_X_X_x_> i cant tern it on!! Sep 14 00:02:31 <_x_X_X_x_> the screen blink Sep 14 00:02:34 don't worry to much at once... Sep 14 00:02:51 <_x_X_X_x_> the screen blink again Sep 14 00:03:06 sometimes it is behaving a bit funny, but mostly it comes back to life Sep 14 00:03:06 <_x_X_X_x_> now is OFF!!! Sep 14 00:03:26 is ther a battery in it? Sep 14 00:03:27 <_x_X_X_x_> no no i think is not Sep 14 00:03:39 <_x_X_X_x_> now yes Sep 14 00:03:56 <_x_X_X_x_> how i get the boot menu? Sep 14 00:04:55 <_x_X_X_x_> i get it Sep 14 00:05:17 so, first take al power away: the battery, the USB connection and all.. Sep 14 00:05:32 <_x_X_X_x_> i get the boot menu!! i think it's a live! Sep 14 00:06:14 <_x_X_X_x_> wbk, now is only with the battery Sep 14 00:06:36 <_x_X_X_x_> wbk, to take it off?? Sep 14 00:17:17 xxx: I'll be off Sep 14 00:18:01 <_x_X_X_x_> OK Sep 14 00:18:14 xxx: good luck with USB. To prevent short circuits, I would use only the battery while testing with mouse and keyboard Sep 14 00:18:34 then when it works, make it work with external power on the hub Sep 14 00:18:45 <_x_X_X_x_> OK Sep 14 00:19:30 let me see if I can find the switch for power and for host/slave in /dev... just a minute Sep 14 00:19:51 <_x_X_X_x_> OK thanks Sep 14 00:20:31 Oh, by the way, you lost the wifi connection? Sep 14 00:20:58 If you run SHR and illliiwi, it could be that wifi turns of (automatically) if you turn of illliiiwi Sep 14 00:21:26 <_x_X_X_x_> what is illliiwi?? Sep 14 00:21:39 a program for using wifi Sep 14 00:21:55 I got it with SHR Sep 14 00:22:37 <_x_X_X_x_> I try now to in this program to switch the USB from Device to Host Sep 14 00:23:16 <_x_X_X_x_> and the open moko TERN OFF! Sep 14 00:24:52 hmmm... It should not do that, if there's still power in the battery Sep 14 00:25:21 is anything connected to USB? Sep 14 00:25:29 <_x_X_X_x_> but now it look the battery die Sep 14 00:25:50 <_x_X_X_x_> i try to charge it in Nokia cell phone Sep 14 00:26:26 <_x_X_X_x_> this is not the original openmoko battery is nokia 6100 battery Sep 14 00:29:33 I couldn't find it in my system at once, but on the wiki there's http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973_USB_host#Selecting_USB_host_modes Sep 14 00:29:54 it says ... Sep 14 00:30:02 To avoid draining the battery use a powered USB hub, then on the FreeRunner enable logical host mode: Sep 14 00:30:02 # echo host > /sys/devices/platform/s3c2410-ohci/usb_mode Sep 14 00:30:02 but NOT electrical host mode Sep 14 00:30:02 # echo 0 > /sys/devices/platform/neo1973-pm-host.0/hostmode Sep 14 00:30:02 Note that powered USB hubs do not send power upstream, that is, into the host. If you wish to power or charge the FreeRunner, you will need a special USB cable. Sep 14 00:31:14 as far as the battery is concerned: maybe yours is without a chip, so that your FR can not read how much power is left so you do not know whether it is full or not? Sep 14 00:31:58 I have to go, good luck and have fun! Sep 14 00:32:25 good night, or good fill in your time of day ;-) Sep 14 00:32:33 <_x_X_X_x_> thans! Sep 14 00:32:36 <_x_X_X_x_> thanks! **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Sep 14 02:59:57 2011