**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Sep 30 02:59:57 2011 Sep 30 19:03:52 this still around? Sep 30 19:04:32 Somewhat Sep 30 19:04:41 A fair bit less traffic than a while ago Sep 30 19:04:56 yea since everybody got an iphone/android and such Sep 30 19:04:57 :D Sep 30 19:06:52 kvirc: no way! Sep 30 19:07:02 :D Sep 30 19:07:19 well, those are the popular phones now Sep 30 19:07:21 arent they Sep 30 19:08:21 you can run android on freerunner though :) Sep 30 19:08:58 yea but isnt that self-defeating? Sep 30 19:09:07 hows openmoko doing these days Sep 30 19:09:42 not sure how that is self-defeating though? Sep 30 19:09:48 kvirc: FSO+SHR is steadily going forward, much better than e.g. maemo/meego. Sep 30 19:09:52 kvirc: +aurora Sep 30 19:10:05 maemo/meego: lol :) Sep 30 19:10:17 whats wrong with meamo Sep 30 19:10:21 kvirc: openmoko the company seems to be dead Sep 30 19:10:25 and meego Sep 30 19:10:26 k Sep 30 19:10:31 kvirc: killed by nokia and intel Sep 30 19:10:54 i thought they wre still working on it Sep 30 19:11:28 i recall intel just said that they will drop/freeze meego on their projects Sep 30 19:11:47 kvirc: they are still screwing their users and developers :/ Sep 30 19:11:53 :D Sep 30 19:11:57 every company does that Sep 30 19:12:00 point?= Sep 30 19:12:17 kvirc: no, not every, and not in the same way :) Sep 30 19:25:07 Nokia have said they're bringing out a linux phone, though it's going to be based on web standards. Sep 30 19:25:10 'meltmi' Sep 30 19:25:15 Who knows what that means. Sep 30 19:32:08 from what I've read Meltemi is going to be based on Qt for low-end devices Sep 30 19:32:59 someone told me it's going to be more similar to android in that there's no X11 and so on... my response was: right, Nokia is reviving QtMoko then? :) Sep 30 19:38:56 Well - meego was planning on dumping X too Sep 30 19:39:05 But based on web standards, so it will be much slower then QtMoko ;) Sep 30 19:39:33 I haven't heard that web standards part before Sep 30 19:39:36 Heinervdm: Be fair. Hardware has come on a long way in the 5 years or so it will be by the time it gets out. Sep 30 19:39:51 about as slow Sep 30 19:39:56 Err Sep 30 19:40:07 I think I'm confusing it with titzen Sep 30 19:40:26 SpeedEvil: but if you compare the palm pre with webos and the palm pre with SHR you can see that this HTML thing is slow Sep 30 19:40:51 JIT has in some ways helped that to be less true than it was. Sep 30 19:41:40 yes, this can be. we need to wait for a device to see this :) Sep 30 19:42:04 * SpeedEvil wishes he had a spare hundred million dollars or so. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Oct 01 02:59:56 2011