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Oct 05 08:25:18 <HeinervdmOff> quitte: this is the latest drm-kernel, there were some problems with drm/kms because of this, all the distributions went back to non kms versions
Oct 05 08:27:03 <quitte> HeinervdmOff: are the problems in the kernel or xorg?
Oct 05 08:29:07 <quitte> I guess it doesn't matter. a userspace driver can't rely on the existence of the dri interface in the future.
Oct 05 08:35:04 <HeinervdmOff> quitte: i don't remember exactly, but the problem was not graphics related, other parts of the phone were instable
Oct 05 08:39:21 <Weiss> the userspace part (xf86-video-glamo) does different things depending on whether it finds a DRM kernel or not, so it's OK
Oct 05 08:41:58 <quitte> Weiss: I may give a qt extended driver a try. My question is wether it makes sense to look at the dri interface.
Oct 05 08:42:36 <quitte> is the option for drm present in current kernels?
Oct 05 08:58:17 <Weiss> I was working on a version for the then-latest kernel at the time I largely stopped... that was 2.6.34 I think
Oct 05 08:58:34 <Weiss> http://git.bitwiz.org.uk/?p=kernel.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/gdrm-2.6.34
Oct 05 08:58:42 <Weiss> but that's still quite an old kernel I think
Oct 05 13:40:48 <tomcatek> how turn on possibility to kill task and switch between tasks?
Oct 05 13:40:59 <tomcatek> inin SHR-Testing
Oct 05 13:41:53 <tomcatek> in unstable there is a bar with "X" and arrows sliding from the up
Oct 05 13:42:28 <tomcatek> I've just flashed my neo and it's missing this ability
Oct 05 14:21:26 <PaulFertser> tomcatek: start shr_elm_softkey
Oct 05 14:24:06 <tomcatek> PaulFertser: 
Oct 05 14:24:12 <tomcatek> much better
Oct 05 14:24:20 <tomcatek> why isn't is started automaticly?
Oct 05 14:26:54 <PaulFertser> tomcatek: no idea, i know that's a long-standing issue.
Oct 05 14:34:55 <tomcatek> PaulFertser: can't You do necessary config update?
Oct 05 14:35:35 <PaulFertser> tomcatek: i'm not an SHR dev. I know they have it in config but it sometimes starts "too early" and therefore dies, i have no idea how and what that means.
Oct 05 14:42:12 <tomcatek> :)
Oct 05 14:42:33 <tomcatek> I'll ocnsult it with dos1, when he'll be online
Oct 05 14:43:52 <dos1> tomcatek: yep, it was always glitchy :/
Oct 05 14:43:59 <tomcatek> hehe
Oct 05 14:44:19 <dos1> tomcatek: when we finally thought it was fixed - then after some time update in EFL broke it
Oct 05 14:44:28 <dos1> tomcatek: or other way around :D
Oct 05 14:44:34 <tomcatek> huehue
Oct 05 14:44:37 <tomcatek> nice..
Oct 05 15:10:10 <HeinervdmOff> tomcatek: which testing are you using? the shr-testing without extension?
Oct 05 15:10:54 <tomcatek> HeinervdmOff: yep
Oct 05 15:11:29 <HeinervdmOff> ok, then the issue is that it starts too early
Oct 05 15:11:45 <HeinervdmOff> you can increase the delay in the init script
Oct 05 15:11:55 <tomcatek> yes.. dos1 filled me in
Oct 05 15:12:20 <tomcatek> I'm thinking about starting it somewhere else..
Oct 05 15:12:46 <HeinervdmOff> in testing-2011.1 that is fixed, but i have some issues with GSM and therfore i did not make a final version
Oct 05 15:14:16 <tomcatek> good to know..
Oct 05 15:14:26 <tomcatek> so I won't fight with that
Oct 05 15:16:58 <HeinervdmOff> but you can use the same method as in that release to start shr_elm_softkey
Oct 05 15:17:16 <HeinervdmOff> by adding it to .e/applications/startup
Oct 05 15:17:22 <HeinervdmOff> or sth like this
Oct 05 15:17:31 <HeinervdmOff> i don't remeber the exact name
Oct 05 15:18:08 <tomcatek> yeach.. I was thinking about something like that
Oct 05 16:42:51 <badcloud> anyone aprox the fps for snes emu in gamerunner these days?
Oct 05 16:53:08 <badcloud> anyone *know* bla bla...
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