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Oct 14 06:31:45 <Infoport> wanted: a new screen for my OpenMoko Freerunner
Oct 14 07:09:04 <PaulFertser> Infoport: you can buy from one of the EU resellers.
Oct 14 07:10:21 <Infoport> how do I find that? I wanted one, but the ebay seller stopped
Oct 14 07:12:08 <Infoport> PaulFertser: love to buy one if you know where
Oct 14 07:12:35 <PaulFertser> Infoport: have you looked at the list of EU distris at wiki.openmoko.org?
Oct 14 07:14:20 <Infoport> looking again now...do you have a page?
Oct 14 07:15:17 <Sazius> http://www.pulster.eu/ has a lot of openmoko stuff, I bought my Freerunner from there
Oct 14 07:16:09 <Sazius> they seem to have a Freerunner display repair service for 79 EUR
Oct 14 07:18:36 <Infoport> maybe I should just go to Pultster. I could install myself, but they seem to have a service going on. The other fixes would be good too, though it totals more than my OM device did initially
Oct 14 07:19:59 <PaulFertser> Infoport: what fixes are you missing?
Oct 14 07:20:37 <Infoport> I missed the gps and bass fix offer by one day, no chance afterward
Oct 14 07:21:55 <Infoport> there was a free offer from OpenMoko, but I didn't check my email often enough
Oct 14 07:24:23 <PaulFertser> Infoport: gps fix is not needed.
Oct 14 07:24:36 <PaulFertser> Infoport: forget about OM the company
Oct 14 07:27:35 <Infoport> PaulFertser: really? how do I give my OM Freerunner its true love it deserves?
Oct 14 07:28:37 <PaulFertser> Infoport: well, you have a device, you can use it and you can improve it and enjoy the great community around it.
Oct 14 07:28:56 <Infoport> :-)
Oct 14 07:28:56 <PaulFertser> Infoport: but OM-the-company is basically dead.
Oct 14 07:30:22 <Infoport> I wish they realized that most companies need 2-3 years before they break even. You can't hope for a profit immediately
Oct 14 07:41:17 <Sazius> aren't OM doing the wikireader still? :)
Oct 14 07:46:40 <PaulFertser> Sazius: hm, do you mean you've checked their repo and they have recent commits in there?
Oct 14 08:03:50 <Sazius> PaulFertser: I meant, aren't they producing the hardware still? :)
Oct 14 08:04:23 <PaulFertser> Sazius: no idea, probably they've already produced enough. And anyway, if the software stopped evolving, that's a clear sign imho.
Oct 14 08:04:37 <Sazius> but yeah, I agree that we should rely on the community not OM the company for the software these days
Oct 14 09:41:20 <DocScrutinizer> lo paul
Oct 14 09:41:57 <PaulFertser> DocScrutinizer: hey hey :)
Oct 14 09:42:00 <PaulFertser> DocScrutinizer: what's up
Oct 14 09:42:12 <DocScrutinizer> usual suffering
Oct 14 09:42:29 <PaulFertser> DocScrutinizer: :(
Oct 14 09:42:44 <DocScrutinizer> WR seems similarly dead, and is sold under different brand now
Oct 14 09:42:57 <PaulFertser> DocScrutinizer: btw, i tried disassembling a bl-5c once and i do not recommend anyone to try it now, seems too fragile and not suitable for that.
Oct 14 09:43:29 <DocScrutinizer> or really? I got one diasassembled one here
Oct 14 09:43:56 <DocScrutinizer> soldered wites to it, to probe the voltage and current externatlly
Oct 14 09:44:10 <DocScrutinizer> god I'm not yet awake
Oct 14 09:44:22 <DocScrutinizer> soldered wires to it, to probe the voltage and current externally
Oct 14 09:44:30 <PaulFertser> DocScrutinizer: wrt soldering: i know the folks who do rc airplanes take raw AA cells and solder them pad-to-pad.
Oct 14 09:45:01 <DocScrutinizer> AA have an additional steel cap at both ends
Oct 14 09:45:27 <PaulFertser> DocScrutinizer: well, i just took a regular bl-5c, and tried dismounting a board from it, very carefully. Then i still could see voltage on cell's leads but not at the board output anymore.
Oct 14 09:45:30 <DocScrutinizer> the cell inside GTA02-bat hasn't any such thing - has just wires
Oct 14 09:47:42 <DocScrutinizer> see http://share.ovi.com/album/joerg900.pregnantLiIon
Oct 14 09:47:54 <DocScrutinizer> for a more recent experience
Oct 14 09:48:49 <PaulFertser> DocScrutinizer: i see. i know the guys who "fix" laptop batteries prefer welding the AA cells.
Oct 14 09:53:53 <DocScrutinizer> yeah, capacitor welding
Oct 14 09:54:04 <DocScrutinizer> BANG
Oct 14 09:54:41 <DocScrutinizer> it's so fast the cell has no chance to heat up ;-D
Oct 14 09:55:50 <DocScrutinizer> and that's btw your only chance with soldering as well, use a 200W iron at really high temperature
Oct 14 09:57:26 <PaulFertser> Yep, that's how they do it afaik.
Oct 14 17:37:28 <Weiss> quitte: datasheet indeed says 90Hz.. I guess it just holds up the main bus when a transfer is in progress
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