**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Apr 29 02:59:58 2012 Apr 29 12:23:46 Hi there, I am new at this channel and am considering to buy a openmoko device for mobile communication. The Neo device should replace my old cell phone which is near by seven years old. Apr 29 12:25:13 What is your opinion to use an openmoko device as your one and only cell phone? Apr 29 12:28:20 bab: i'm doing that and it's a considerable pain. Apr 29 12:28:34 bab: what's your usecase? Are you a fan of free software? Apr 29 12:28:55 bab: also, gta02 has no UMTS support, and not even EDGE, only plain old GPRS. Apr 29 12:29:54 PaulFertser: okay, yeah, i am a fan of open and free software and ideology Apr 29 12:30:31 bab: well, if maemo "open enough" for you, probably an n900 would be a better choice. Apr 29 12:30:54 PaulFertser: my old phone has no UMTS and i am no fan of beeing online around the clock with a mobile device Apr 29 12:31:10 PaulFertser: okay, do you test a n900 also? Apr 29 12:31:28 bab: i can't use it as there's still no good free software stack ready for it. Apr 29 12:31:37 bab: but i've seen it in action. Apr 29 12:31:45 (with proprietary telephony) Apr 29 12:32:54 PaulFertser: the idea of openmoko is fantastic but it is a really crap of todays commercial world that this project is not strong enough Apr 29 12:34:01 :( Apr 29 12:37:05 PaulFertser: My feature phone is a Samsung SGH-D500 ... it is old, but a stable device without a lot of functionallity Apr 29 12:38:58 bab: i think you can buy a cheap used gta02 and also the nokia batteries are compatible, so that might be good enough for you. Apr 29 12:39:45 PaulFertser: This is the reason for thinking about "never touch a running system" ... but :-) … a new phone can bring some fun in your live :-D Apr 29 12:40:20 I'd personally like to have a hardware keyboard and a larger screen (i think i'd _love_ n900 if i could use it). But status quo is that gta02 is still my only phone. Apr 29 12:41:44 PaulFertser: Does the gta02 have a camera inside. I am not allowed to bring my actual phone to work, because of its old camera module. Apr 29 12:43:17 bab: it doesn't :) Apr 29 12:43:38 bab: you can physically remove the camera module from your actual phone ;) Apr 29 12:44:29 PaulFertser: Yes, of course, but I am not a fan of destroying devices which are working fine. Apr 29 12:45:36 PaulFertser: I am also abled to let crash the camera module at work ... this is not an option for me Apr 29 12:46:27 bab: i wonder if that requirement to have no camera in a phone makes any sense security-wise or if it's just another stupidity of the management. Apr 29 12:48:05 PaulFertser: The company, lovely called as MegaCorp, is a place of a lot of stupid decisions at management level. Apr 29 12:59:13 PaulFertser: Thank you for your opinion. I will eventual buy a second phone for testing and use a second SIM for this one. My actual phone still works and when it does not change, why do I change it?! ;-) Apr 29 13:09:22 bab: welcome **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Apr 30 02:59:58 2012