**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jan 01 02:59:58 2013 Jan 01 04:29:38 Hello Jan 01 04:29:54 Is it new gta04 version already available? Jan 01 04:30:19 * fling wishes everyone Happy New Year Jan 01 05:07:46 yes it is Jan 01 18:18:45 linuxxd: who's going to buy a GTA04? If I'm not mistaken, it is somewhat more featurefull that a rasperry pi, and 20x more expensive.. Jan 01 18:20:12 I understand that they are hand-crafted in small batches.. but why wouldn't I buy a few modern jail-broken smartfones instead? Jan 01 18:21:39 don't get me wrong, I have a GTA02 and am an open-hardware nut, but.. Jan 01 18:26:25 why did you buy a gta02 when you could've had an android instead? Jan 01 18:45:39 well I was, for a short while, an openmoko distributor, I got it for almost nothing and android phones didn't exist at the time Jan 01 18:46:01 my regular phone IS an android phone Jan 01 18:46:38 (Alcatel one-touch) and I intend to use the GTA02 as a tiny debian box Jan 01 18:50:32 i always thought that GTA phones were for enthusiasts, not regular users Jan 01 18:50:41 so people who are willing to pay for their hardware Jan 01 18:57:57 yeah, and support a sort of openness that even android can't match Jan 01 19:10:16 zear: well I gues there are enthusiasts and ENTHUSIASTS! Jan 01 19:10:58 and/or enthusiasts and enthusiasts-with-monet-to-burn Jan 01 19:11:26 (i'm in the former catagory) Jan 01 19:11:33 djp, well paid programmers, universities, etc. Jan 01 19:12:03 the latter category ;-) Jan 01 19:12:12 personally i bought both my units secondhand Jan 01 19:12:19 for a good 1/4 of the original money Jan 01 19:12:30 oh.. well how they workin? Jan 01 19:12:49 1/4 is within the range of sanity Jan 01 19:13:10 considering it doesn't come with a case :) Jan 01 19:13:21 i am still using one of them as my daily phone Jan 01 19:13:29 had an android phone for a short time, but it sucked Jan 01 19:13:46 slow and lacking features Jan 01 19:13:54 even compared to gta, which does lack features Jan 01 19:14:32 so you find the GTA04 "fully functional"? Jan 01 19:14:47 i only have two GTA02s Jan 01 19:16:22 but if GTA04 has faster framebuffer than 02, than yes, it will be fully functional Jan 01 19:16:22 oh, cool, well that's encouraging.. for me Jan 01 19:16:23 so you never had a gta? Jan 01 19:17:33 I have one, but never used it as a daily phone, then lost it in a "junk drawer" for a few years, and now hoping to revive it Jan 01 19:17:52 ah :) Jan 01 19:18:03 yea, i've got lots of devices in my junk drawer Jan 01 19:18:15 actually, just recently had to utilize another drawer for my junk devices :) Jan 01 19:19:15 i guess the only thing my android phone does better is web browsing Jan 01 19:19:29 it has an optimized web browser, unlike gta Jan 01 19:23:23 what OS you using? Jan 01 19:26:09 SHR Jan 01 19:27:15 that's like, the stock one, isn't it? is that debian-based? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Jan 02 02:59:58 2013