**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Sep 05 02:59:59 2014 Sep 05 15:18:32 Do anyone know if there's an alternative way of reaching the person behind http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Product_IDs ? I've tried the mail several times to no avail, so I'm guessing they're either no longer involved or no longer checks that mail, Sep 05 15:26:26 DusteD: do you mean Harald? Sep 05 15:27:02 DusteD: send a personal mail to Harald Welte, he should take care of it. Sep 05 15:27:34 DusteD: what's your project btw? (just curious) Sep 05 15:29:34 Cool :) PaulFertser it's an encrypted hardware password manager/entry for linux/windows/mac called The Final Key Sep 05 15:29:57 There's some pics and text about it here http://cyberstalker.dk/finalkey/ Sep 05 15:30:15 *manager/entry-tool Sep 05 15:30:19 DusteD: sounds cool! Sep 05 15:30:39 I think it is to be hones, been using it non-stop since I made it, and those I've given one to are also happy with it Sep 05 15:32:50 DusteD: is AES256 on old atmega fast enough? ;) Sep 05 15:34:29 PaulFertser, yep, the amount of data is small enough, I've not done any benchmarks, but dec/encryption is fast enough that you're not noticing it Sep 05 15:35:06 except for searching/listing where it has to decrypt 256x32 bytes for the name, that takes around 2 seconds Sep 05 15:36:43 DusteD: cool. Just a sidenote, if you're interested in embedded, consider looking at stm32 family for your next project. Cheaper and 10x more powerful. Sep 05 15:38:17 PaulFertser, will certainly do :) Could use something cheaper than the mega. It was just so easy to prototype the idea on the arduino :) Sep 05 15:40:31 DusteD: I understand. What I can tell you is that once we tried arm controllers we never looked back at avrs at work ;) Also, debugging via JTAG or SWD is of an enormous help when developing complex firmware. Granted, datasheets for these controllers are several times bigger than mega's but you really get much more with them. Sep 05 15:46:24 That is true :) I wish they'd let me keep the lauterbach when they closed the site :P Sep 05 15:46:52 DusteD: you can use any cheap jtag adapter and openocd instead :) Sep 05 15:47:09 Or stlink from a discovery board. Sep 05 15:47:52 I should have a closer look at openocd Sep 05 15:48:32 Might be nice with an arm in there, could give me enough room to do nice things like usb-mass-storage and include windows drivers and documentation on the device Sep 05 15:51:26 DusteD: indeed Sep 05 15:51:58 DusteD: I can also recommend taking a look at libopencm3 as an alternative to shit-libraries from the vendors. Sep 05 16:06:13 PaulFertser, Will vertainly do that! Thanks :D Sep 05 23:19:48 ~logs Sep 05 23:19:48 All conversations are logged to http://apt.rikers.org/%23openmoko/ Lines starting with spaces are not logged. Logs are updated daily --- livelogs are on http://logs.nslu2-linux.org/livelogs/openmoko.txt **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Sep 06 02:59:58 2014