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May 31 13:42:38 <kuldeep> Hello i have send usb vid/pid request twice and one forwarded to LaF0rge. but still not reply. anyone can help into this?
May 31 13:43:15 <kuldeep> all the source-code/hardware-design is under GPLv3+ and we have been working on it for 2.5+yr.
May 31 13:44:11 <kuldeep> if someone need to see hardware/software, please visit madresistor.org/box0
May 31 13:45:01 <kuldeep> *"laforge"
May 31 13:45:26 <kuldeep> laforge: Harald Welte
May 31 17:40:31 <PaulFertser> DocScrutinizer05: hey :) can you probably help contacting Harald wrt to USB VID/PID ^^^^ ?
May 31 17:40:46 <DocScrutinizer05> hmm, dunno
May 31 17:41:06 <DocScrutinizer05> you tried a email to sysmocom?
May 31 17:41:16 <PaulFertser> kuldeep: ^^^
May 31 17:42:59 <DocScrutinizer05> http://laforge.gnumonks.org/
May 31 17:43:28 <DocScrutinizer05> http://laforge.gnumonks.org/contact/
May 31 17:44:21 <PaulFertser> DocScrutinizer05: thanks for the clarifications!
May 31 17:44:27 <DocScrutinizer05> yw :-)
May 31 17:44:54 <DocScrutinizer05> https://www.sysmocom.de/  maybe worth a try too
May 31 17:46:19 <DocScrutinizer05> https://www.sysmocom.de/contact-impressum/
May 31 17:47:30 <DocScrutinizer05> Holger (Zecke) might also be able to manage the USB stuff
May 31 17:48:30 <DocScrutinizer05> /ns info laf0rge  -->> Last seen  : May 23 22:53:34 2016 (1w 0d 18h ago)
May 31 17:49:12 <DocScrutinizer05> he might be busy or on vacation
May 31 17:49:34 <DocScrutinizer05> laf0rge == Harald
May 31 17:52:19 <DocScrutinizer05> as an interim advice, maybe just pick a reasonable unused PID with the OM VID already, and ask Harald to add it 
May 31 17:53:42 <DocScrutinizer05> the whole range got assigned to OM and thus aiui nobody but OM/Harald would be even _able_ to dispute this. Which won't happen as long as your project complies the requirements
May 31 17:54:23 <DocScrutinizer05> PaulFertser: ^^^ makes sense?
May 31 17:56:18 <DocScrutinizer05> where's the wikipage about that USB VID/PID stuff?
May 31 17:57:03 <PaulFertser> DocScrutinizer05: Harald has posted a message to his blog recently regarding USB stuff, he's overwhelmed with work and was asking for somebody to volunteer.
May 31 17:57:20 <DocScrutinizer05> aaah, ok
May 31 17:57:27 <PaulFertser> DocScrutinizer05: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Product_IDs
May 31 17:57:33 <DocScrutinizer05> yeah, he's always very busy
May 31 17:57:43 <PaulFertser> http://laforge.gnumonks.org/blog/20151206-volunterr-wanted-usb_iids/
May 31 17:58:35 <DocScrutinizer05> I dunno if the email usb-id@openmoko.org is still active. Afaik I'm the *only* one still using @om email ;-)
May 31 17:58:47 <DocScrutinizer05> ask pabs
May 31 18:00:10 <DocScrutinizer05> ((volunteer)) hmmm. How about you and me sharing the task between us?
May 31 18:01:01 <DocScrutinizer05> look, I can add a record to the list on http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Product_IDs
May 31 18:01:27 <DocScrutinizer05> which should be more than sufficient for kuldeep
May 31 18:01:46 <PaulFertser> I think I can volunteer too, yes, this task is not too demanding.
May 31 18:01:49 <DocScrutinizer05> then drop a note to Harald about it
May 31 18:02:28 <DocScrutinizer05> ok, deal, we both accept volunteering to take a little care about it. did you check kuldeep's project?
May 31 18:02:59 <DocScrutinizer05> also do you have admin on OM wiki?
May 31 18:03:14 <PaulFertser> It's unclear whether "the firmware/software running on your USB device is Free / Open Source" means _all_ of firmware and if not, what are the exceptions (e.g. proprietary ROM code is clearly ok. But what about proprietary BLE stack for nrf51 from its vendor, Nordic)?
May 31 18:03:20 <PaulFertser> I think I do, I need to check.
May 31 18:03:30 <PaulFertser> I haven't yet reviewed kuldeep's project but I can do it today.
May 31 18:04:08 <DocScrutinizer05> I guess it's up to us to decide about such policies
May 31 18:04:39 <DocScrutinizer05> I tend to act liberal here, when the 'spirit' is right
May 31 18:04:47 <PaulFertser> Agreed
May 31 18:05:47 <DocScrutinizer05> ok, you check if the project qualifies, and ping me to figure and edit into wiki a particular PID, right?
May 31 18:06:40 <DocScrutinizer05> ~logs
May 31 18:06:41 <apt> All conversations are logged to http://apt.rikers.org/%23openmoko/ Lines starting with spaces are not logged. Logs are updated daily  ---  livelogs are on http://logs.nslu2-linux.org/livelogs/openmoko.txt
May 31 18:07:54 <DocScrutinizer05> WTF?! http://logs.nslu2-linux.org/livelogs/openmoko/openmoko.20160529.txt
May 31 18:09:00 <PaulFertser> DocScrutinizer05: deal :)
May 31 18:09:04 <DocScrutinizer05> :-D
May 31 18:09:15 <DocScrutinizer05> chanlogs fubar
May 31 18:09:45 <DocScrutinizer05> at least tomorrow there'll be http://apt.rikers.org/%23openmoko/
May 31 18:11:36 <DocScrutinizer05> OT LOL  https://github.com/atheme/atheme/issues/493#issuecomment-222771875
Jun 01 01:26:25 <DocScrutinizer05> PaulFertser: I sent a short mail to Harald to let him know about us two fools picking up on the volunteering
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