**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri May 15 02:59:58 2009 May 15 14:06:02 looks like nobody wants marvell's kernel :P May 15 14:13:23 it's old, full of useless stuff and lacks useful stuff. the only good thing it has is crypto acceleration May 15 14:14:03 guess that will be ported to mainline kernel anyway? May 15 14:14:29 Md: you can add OCF patches for crypto support May 15 14:14:42 zumbi: where can I find them? May 15 14:14:45 scelestic: "eventually" May 15 14:14:57 heh May 15 14:15:18 Md: it is a generic thing, you need to adapt them for sheeva May 15 14:16:10 http://ocf-linux.sourceforge.net/ May 15 14:16:17 wait.. there is support for some crypto engine in the sheeva kernel?? May 15 14:16:22 yes, I would have to extract the sheevaplug driver from the marvell kernel May 15 14:16:25 josch: yes May 15 14:16:30 \o/ May 15 14:16:31 josch: cat /proc/crypto May 15 14:16:38 awesome May 15 14:16:57 you are talking about which kernel 2.6.22? or latest orion.git? May 15 14:17:20 the one shipped with the plug, I don't know about the git tree May 15 14:17:33 but i have to use marvel kernel for that? May 15 14:17:47 Md: http://git.marvell.com May 15 14:18:06 zumbi: I know where it is, what I mean is that I have not checked if it has the crypto acceleration patch May 15 14:18:18 josch: unless you port the code to mainline, yes May 15 14:18:21 oh! ok :) May 15 14:19:05 phew.. i dont think i have time for that :( May 15 17:04:33 tbm: what's new in your new kernel? May 15 17:05:10 Md: which new kernel? May 15 17:05:40 tbm: r13609 May 15 17:05:56 Md: well, it's 2.6.30-rc5 May 15 17:06:30 does it have all the two kirkwood power saving patches? May 15 17:06:59 only one May 15 17:15:58 tbm: do you mind mailing me your updated flash-kernel script? May 15 17:21:41 55mdok May 15 17:25:06 tbm: am I missing something or it is not actually flashing the generated images? May 15 17:27:05 Md: right, it makes a bootable image on the usb stick May 15 17:28:09 which command will we eventually use to write to the NAND flash from Linux? I assume that whatever it is it will need to be patched to support 4 bits ECC May 15 17:29:30 I haven't looked into the nand stuff at all May 15 17:29:43 I'll look at (in this order) usb (basically done), SD and flash May 15 17:30:44 SD is not different from USB, I just rsync'ed my rootfs from USB to SD and rebooted with the new u-boot May 15 17:30:55 since I used /dev/root in fstab I did not even have to update it May 15 17:31:01 right May 15 22:15:35 so once its plugged in, it starts booting up? May 15 22:15:50 and when i want to shutdown. do i run shutdown or just unplug? May 15 22:19:16 shutdown, like any other computer May 15 22:19:49 the device still be on after the clean shutdown right? May 15 22:20:03 on as in waiting to be unplugged. May 15 22:21:19 yes May 15 22:21:38 cool May 15 22:21:47 i need to get rid of my nslu2 first. )= May 15 22:21:54 that was waste of $. May 15 22:22:36 why? May 15 22:22:41 but the sheevaplug is perfect. hopefully it will replace my cobalt qube3. May 15 22:22:55 mwester: why get rid of it? too slow to do anything May 15 22:23:09 hmmmm. May 15 22:24:46 I thoiught perhaps you had a specific technical need; there isn't much a sheevaplug can do that the nslu2 cannot also do, with the constraint that the NSLU2 is rather slower and less RAM. Hence my question to find out why you thing it was "a waste of $". May 15 22:24:59 so the built-in 512MB flash drive works just like a regular drive? May 15 22:25:06 no May 15 22:25:13 it's not a flash drive May 15 22:25:25 it's NAND flash; works like the internal flash on the NSLU2. May 15 22:25:43 and the os is stored there right? May 15 22:26:06 could be. May 15 22:26:24 but the sheevaplug has a full-featured bootlaoder, and can load directly from an external usb device. May 15 22:26:25 ah. but most people install the os on a SD card? or external usb enclosure? May 15 22:26:43 hard to say what most people will do; folks are justt experimenting now. May 15 22:27:02 so the 512MB NAND flash is mainly used for the bootloader? May 15 22:27:02 booting from SD requires a u-boot upgrade, but is possible May 15 22:27:03 That much flash is rather too large for jffs2 (too slow), and ubifs is somewhat new. May 15 22:27:16 I recommend that you start by booting from USB May 15 22:27:20 ya. thats what i was thinking May 15 22:27:37 Right now, I would say that most folks end up using the flash for the bootloader, as far as I can tell from comments here. May 15 22:28:09 cool thanks May 15 22:28:09 That's a bit of a waste, but an external hard drive _is_ probably a better choice for many apps. May 15 22:28:42 I think perhaps ubifs will change that over the long haul; it looks like a very good fs for NAND flash. May 15 22:28:48 what about a 8GB usb thumb drive to store the os? May 15 22:29:11 Sure. May 15 22:30:15 and i can use the sd card for webcam.. JUST in case someone breaks into my room. the sheevaplug is kinna stealth in a way. heheh. May 15 22:31:12 sdio webcam? May 15 22:31:44 just motion May 15 22:32:22 and what about compiling kernel? i watch to patch it with grsecurity May 15 22:32:53 But yes, with a white network cable plugged in, the sheevaplug might easily be mistaken for a large charger or wall-wart... sorta like hiding out in the open. May 15 22:33:12 (= May 16 01:39:04 annoying... I bricked my plug by using nbubt instead of bubt in u-boot and now I am unable to even load u-boon from JTAG. what am I missing? May 16 01:39:28 I am using the usual load_image - resume 0x00600000, which used to work fine May 16 01:49:09 because I was loading the NAND image instead of the ELF image. but I still don't get how it used to work... May 16 01:52:23 I fixed it by loading u-boot-rd88f6281Sheevaplug, but I wonder how I was able to boot zumbi's image then May 16 01:52:31 I am a slightly confused... **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat May 16 02:59:57 2009