**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon May 18 02:59:57 2009 May 18 03:01:07 the errors happen with both ext2 and ext3 May 18 03:01:20 fat32 seems ok (quick test) May 18 03:01:40 tested by mounting, then creating a directory May 18 05:46:19 since the sheevaplug has 1 usb slot, can i just plug a usb hub to it and have it host the usb drive, webcam, etc ...? and it will still boot from the usb drive? May 18 05:56:09 deadcat: yup, yet its recommended the usb hub to have its own power supply May 18 06:20:22 k May 18 10:28:55 does anyone know if there are gigabit ethernet cards (pci or something) with the same (register) interface as those on the kirkwood? May 18 10:29:51 i have no idea if that makes sense (with differences between SoC and pci device). but at least there are marvell ethernet chips i think... May 18 10:44:05 it does not May 18 10:46:39 mjl-: you can compare the SKGE (marvell pci) and MV643XX (marvell SoC) drivers in kernel to see if there is similarities May 18 10:53:35 mjl-, suihkulokki: they aren't the same at all May 18 10:58:19 ok, thanks May 18 10:58:36 skge came from syskonnect May 18 10:59:52 openbsd has a driver for a "marvell yukon-2" device May 18 11:00:16 that's sky2 May 18 11:11:35 i don't think the orion/kw gige unit was used anywhere else than the discoveries and the ARM SoCs May 18 11:12:06 there's another SoC ethernet design (a fast ethernet controller), which is shared between pxa168 and some earlier ARM SoC May 18 11:12:25 so there's basically 2 SoC ethernet controllers, and 2 PCI controllers May 18 12:48:53 hi May 18 13:23:48 hi Mike May 18 13:24:14 greetings May 18 16:13:56 Hi all: I have a sheeva plug that I'm having a hard time getting the serial-usb console module loading correctly. May 18 16:14:22 When I origionally set up the plug, I had to pass an additional option to the kernel module. Now I don't recall the kernel module or the option, and I can't seem to find the website with that info... May 18 16:14:29 kusznir_: have you tried http://www.openplug.org/plugwiki/index.php/Serial_terminal_program ? May 18 16:15:05 that is the web page I needed, thanks rabeeh! May 18 16:19:13 Oh, and something else I've been meaning to ask about: I get a lot of "Unknown HZ value! (29) Assume 100" showing up...I assume that means I left something out of the kernel to allow it to deal with dynamic clocks...Any specific recommendations? May 18 16:21:35 ignore that May 18 16:21:39 ok. May 18 16:26:18 sheeva lacks reset button ;( May 18 16:28:44 mane has a reset button (made from a paperclip) May 18 16:28:47 mine* May 18 16:30:27 I need to check for longer power cable... May 18 16:39:38 kusznir_: http://www.openplug.org/plugwiki/index.php/Load_Serial_Drivers_Automatically_Using_udev May 18 16:39:46 these are the best instructions May 18 16:39:54 hrw: I've got a pinhole on the side just above the power light. Paperclip works well with it :) May 18 16:40:02 Md: Thanks! May 18 16:40:11 kusznir_: found it May 18 16:40:14 * hrw needs head of marvell engineer May 18 16:40:18 mainlineLinux=yes, arcNumber=2097 and angstrom kernel fails May 18 16:40:51 hrw: you need to saveenv and then reset May 18 16:41:25 armin76: on other uboot devices I do not need reset after changing env May 18 16:41:41 hrw: thats the way it is :) May 18 16:41:48 hrw: I do not understand well why, but you need to reset when you change one or both of these variables (just these) May 18 16:42:09 hrw: also this is not upstream uboot May 18 16:44:23 yes! May 18 16:44:27 tthx guys May 18 16:44:43 armin76: your test page in wiki is useful May 18 16:45:06 hrw: i never got around to finish it :P May 18 16:45:12 i tend to get bored writing docs May 18 16:45:18 so do I May 18 16:48:12 Does anyone know what the current turn around time is for new sheeva plug orders? May 18 16:48:39 Ill have been waiting exacltly four weeks on Wednesday May 18 16:48:50 kusznir_: three weeks for me May 18 16:49:19 Ok. I was asked to order 4 more for our research group...Don't need them right away, just wanted to know what to expect :) May 18 17:22:57 from the wiki logs: May 18 17:22:58 * (User creation log); 15:54 . . Wheresmystuff (Talk | contribs) New user account May 18 17:37:02 kusznir_: one month or more I think (based on friends orders) May 18 17:52:37 what is the u-boot nand test about on the sheeva? A bad blocks test? May 18 18:25:30 does anyone know where to get the specs for usb on the kirkwood? May 18 18:25:47 my guess it's only available under some nda? May 18 18:26:22 mjl-: everything is documented in the manual May 18 18:26:35 hmm, it is? May 18 18:27:31 i think i've been looking at the wrong part of the manual then May 18 18:31:19 if "documented" is "See the Marvell Extranet website for the latest product documentation.", then ok May 18 18:34:56 it's not clear that the extranet has that information May 18 18:35:02 Md: what exactly did you mean? May 18 18:42:16 mjl-: FS_88F6180_9x_6281_OpenSource.pdf HW_88F6281_OpenSource.pdf May 18 18:44:52 those docs only refer to: ARC USB-HS OTG High-Speed USB On-The-Go Controller Core V 4.0.1 Reference May 18 18:45:50 i don't know much about usb, but i doubt half a page that only refers to another doc that i don't have will be enough to make a usb driver May 18 20:37:11 md: i think there is a "mount / -o rw,remount" missing before "./debootstrap/debootstrap --second-stage" May 18 21:05:39 atari`: it depends on how you boot the kernel... May 18 21:17:17 Md: ok... May 18 21:49:20 md: works very well :) May 18 22:00:56 hmmm hey atari` you alive? May 18 22:01:24 Bryanstein: yes May 18 22:01:58 atari`, I tried to install that experimental kernel and it dpkg dies when it tries to run flash-kernel May 18 22:02:38 it says the architectue is not supported or something May 18 22:02:56 i just switched back to 2.6.29-2-kirkwood May 18 22:03:16 the 30 install worked? May 18 22:03:36 md wrote a nice instruction: http://blog.bofh.it/debian/id_265 May 18 22:04:12 dpkg -i linux-image-2.6.30-rc5-kirkwood_2.6.30~rc5-1~experimental.1_armel.deb worked May 18 22:05:13 never wrote anything to nand... May 18 22:05:31 everything on mmc/usb May 18 22:06:31 atari`, that is what I mean...on the install of that deb flash-kernel dies May 18 22:07:27 never tried, no need for me May 18 22:07:27 when I run flash-kernel it says my architecture is not supported...which is odd May 18 22:07:47 well it runs flash kernel as you install the kernel May 18 22:09:38 wait a moment, i have a try May 18 22:14:51 http://sheevaplug.pastebin.com/d5df5da7c May 18 22:14:55 works... May 18 22:15:39 hmmm...let me try again and show you the log May 18 22:15:55 atari`, what happens when you run flash-kernel by itself? May 18 22:16:11 wait...there is an option May 18 22:16:21 it's maybe --supported May 18 22:16:37 I'd have to look in the man...I'm booting the plug now May 18 22:16:39 Bryanstein: the standard flash-kernel does not support the sheevaplug indeed May 18 22:17:30 ah...well what I find odd is atari` supposedly uses the same base that I use and he can install the deb but I can't May 18 22:18:10 maybe he is following the instructions and you did not? deinstall flash-kernel... May 18 22:19:06 Md, lol...I never saw that bit of instruction on his blog nor Martin Michlmayr's May 18 22:20:23 I have yours open in dillo as well and there is nothing there about it...I thank your for telling me this though...because I wouldn't know otherwise May 18 22:21:11 anyhow...yours is a different issue though May 18 22:32:05 where did you get rc5 kernel package? tbm repo has 2.6.29 May 18 22:34:31 zumbi: http://people.debian.org/~tbm/armel/kernel/r13609/ May 18 22:34:43 i am getting errors when installing the kernel package, but i am tftpbooting the kernel May 18 22:34:54 http://sheevaplug.pastebin.com/m7dbfc1f5 May 18 22:38:57 has anyone else seen the same issues with ext2/ext3 with the 2.6.30rc6 kernel as me? http://plugcomputer.org/plugforum/index.php?topic=298.0 May 18 22:39:14 zumbi: it's a bug, and I fear you will have to debug it May 18 22:45:47 jaebird, does your drive mount as read only and have write errors too? May 18 22:46:07 haven't tried that May 18 22:46:29 let me... May 18 22:49:46 Bryanstein: no errors with readonly...except for the normal cannot create dir... May 18 23:01:09 usb flash sticks mount fine with ext2 and i can read and write to them May 18 23:55:37 so it isn't a new kernel issue..just tried with 2.6.22.18 and have the same issue May 19 00:02:50 it is almost like there is a usb issue...the drive actually disappears from the device list /dev/sda1 is just gone May 19 00:03:06 do you get it with other flash sticks too? May 19 00:03:26 lennert: don't seem to May 19 00:05:04 although my plug would never boot from an ext2/ext3 usb recovery...i had to use fat16 May 19 00:07:06 this external USB drive is the kind where you put an ATA drive in a case...so the sheeva could have issues with the controller May 19 00:11:15 these things are often a FPOS May 19 00:12:21 true, but it works without issues on my other machines...and has for several years May 19 00:12:49 I know there have been issues with USB hubs with the plug, so maybe the plug is being too picky? May 19 00:18:35 14cd:6600 Super Top USB 2.0 IDE DEVICE May 19 00:22:37 This bug seems to describe the problem I'm having: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/81059 May 19 00:22:59 they claim it is fixed in 2.6.20, but maybe not included in ARM port? May 19 00:53:14 well...i definitely don't care enough to do anymore with it :) too much time wasted already **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue May 19 02:59:57 2009