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May 23 05:53:02 <ryanlin_> anyone up?
May 23 12:20:23 <proppy> Hi, I've followed http://plugcomputer.org/plugwiki/index.php/Compiling_Linux_Kernel_for_the_Plug_Computer
May 23 12:20:37 <proppy> I'm missing the instruction for copying the kernel to the sheevaplug
May 23 13:31:02 <proppy> Hi, I've managed to boot 2.6.30 over tftp
May 23 13:31:16 <proppy> but it seems that jffs2 is not used when trying to mount the root partition
May 23 13:31:32 <proppy> however the kernel is built with JFFS2 support
May 23 14:14:33 <DDevine> Hey.
May 23 14:15:02 <DDevine> There is a problem with my server's internet connection. I will look into it more tomorrow.
May 23 14:15:59 <DDevine> I thought it was the rain that has been playing with the wires but the situation doesn't seem to have improved even though the rain has been lighter and the lines should have dried out at least twice.
May 23 14:16:09 <DDevine> It's really annoying me.
May 23 14:16:54 <DDevine> If I didn't have to buy new clothes for work I would have bought a quiet box so that I could migrate services to a system at my house.
May 23 14:17:13 <DDevine> I can't just have the server here for noise and also some power issues.
May 23 14:17:25 <DDevine> women. they don't like servers.
May 23 14:28:11 <proppy> No filesystem could mount root, tried:  ext3 ext2 cramfs vfat msdos, even thought JFFS2 version 2.2. (NAND) © 2001-2006 Red Hat, Inc.
May 23 14:55:43 <eno> proppy: try add rootfs=jffs2 to kernel cmdline
May 23 15:00:55 <proppy> eno:
May 23 15:01:02 <proppy> still got:
May 23 15:01:03 <proppy> No filesystem could mount root, tried:  ext3 ext2 cramfs vfat msdos
May 23 15:01:03 <proppy> Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(31,2)
May 23 15:01:12 <proppy> Kernel command line: console=ttyS0,115200 root=/dev/mtdblock2 rw rootfs=jffs2
May 23 15:38:49 <elfMobile> are there other plugcomputer type devices?  Something similar but with more stuff like built in audio etc?
May 23 15:58:50 <deadcat> elfMobile: price/size will change.. the mac mini is a good start. it has everything.
May 23 15:59:21 <elfMobile> deadcat, just ordered a plugcomputer.
May 23 15:59:21 <deadcat> can i put a 8GB sdhc card in the sd slot?
May 23 15:59:28 <deadcat> elfMobile: nice....
May 23 15:59:28 <digger3> elfMobile: beagleboard
May 23 16:00:42 <elfMobile> digger3, the beagleboard is only 600MHz.  But is it as fast at the openplug?
May 23 16:00:51 <elfMobile> digger3, they're both ARM
May 23 16:01:01 <deadcat> i am waiting for mine... but i bought a 8GB microSD card with the SD converter. just want to make sure the plug supports it.
May 23 16:02:30 <digger3> elfMobile: I'm not sure, it has more cache, I (assumption!) assume that the sheeva is faster. Keep in mind that these are low-power systems. Make a list of what you want to use it for, and check the forums what its limits are. mhz isn't everything.
May 23 16:03:29 <elfMobile> digger3, samba, nfs, apache, and a database (anything supported by Django)
May 23 16:03:58 <elfMobile> digger3, wireless would be nice, but not necessary since I got ethernet drops everywhere
May 23 16:04:48 <deadcat> i only use it for nfs, ssh, http, torrent,wireless(my current server has wireless)
May 23 16:05:08 <deadcat> it will be quite an upgrade from what i am using right now.
May 23 16:05:11 <digger3> elfMobile: note that the beagleboard doesn't have ethernet :)
May 23 16:05:17 <elfMobile> deadcat, what wireless you using?
May 23 16:05:42 <deadcat> elfMobile: my server has a 802.11b hostap card.
May 23 16:05:44 <elfMobile> digger3, wow... didn't notice that, I would have assumed
May 23 16:05:59 <digger3> elfMobile: concerning the processors being arm: it's like equating a VIA and Intel, because they are both x86. You'd really need to investigate to see what the strenths and weaknesses are
May 23 16:06:41 <elfMobile> I am suprised that the wiki didn't give any results when I searched wireless
May 23 16:06:56 <elfMobile> there should be a list of USB wireless sticks known to work
May 23 16:07:39 <elfMobile> deadcat, what you using for torrent?
May 23 16:07:52 <elfMobile> deadcat, I have used rtorrent but never tried the wtorrent web interface
May 23 16:07:56 <deadcat> elfMobile: i have bittornado running in screen
May 23 16:08:35 <deadcat> elfMobile: i have a script that i run in cron to download tv shows to a dir, then screen+bittornado does the rest
May 23 16:09:43 <deadcat> elfMobile: i've tried the nslu2 (slow as hell. cant really do anything at all) i am trying to sell actually...
May 23 16:10:00 <elfMobile> deadcat, off topic but where do you get your torrents from?  I always search mininova and have to manually find the right one
May 23 16:10:08 <deadcat> elfMobile: my current server is a cobalt qube 3, really fun. but only 300mhz
May 23 16:10:37 <deadcat> elfMobile: they are tv torrents, from tvrss.net
May 23 16:13:47 <elfMobile> hmmm .mkv files.  I wonder if xbmc will play those
May 23 16:21:28 <elfMobile> well... I have high hopes for this thing.  Samba / NFS fileserver off of 1TB external, Apache / MySQL server to host my Django site and possibly MythWeb
May 23 16:23:01 <deadcat> so can the SD slot take a 8GB sdhc card?
May 23 16:23:13 <deadcat> or only 2GB max
May 23 16:25:49 <elfMobile> deadcat, I'd be suprised if it could only do 2GB max but that is totally unfounded
May 23 16:26:10 <elfMobile> deadcat, my camera said 2GB Max but it works with 4 and 8
May 23 16:26:24 <deadcat> ah.
May 23 16:27:39 <elfMobile> Could you imagine plugging one of these openplugs into a UPS?  Just how funny would that look?
May 23 16:57:05 <ShadowJK> For pure processing, I'd assume the beagle is faster
May 23 17:04:45 <deadcat> whats the recommendation? installing the os(debian) to sd, usb thumb, or usb hdd?
May 23 17:23:09 <mjl-> the sdio on the sheevaplug (kirkwood) does sdhc too, so should be up to 32gb
May 23 17:51:46 <deadcat> mjl-: awesome!!! (= just use the latest uboot right?
May 23 17:52:16 <deadcat> is it fast and reliable to have the os on the sd card?
May 23 17:59:19 <mjl-> i don't know if u-boot supports it.  and i used it as root fs of an os.  but i think others here have.  check the irc logs if you're interested
May 23 17:59:43 <deadcat> k
May 23 17:59:57 <deadcat> mjl-: so your os is on a usb hdd?
May 23 17:59:58 <mjl-> "i haven't used it as root fs"... sorry
May 23 18:00:14 <mjl-> deadcat: heh, i'm actually not using the sheevaplug "in production" yet.
May 23 18:00:17 <mjl-> i'm porting inferno to it
May 23 18:00:28 <mjl-> and i happen to be working on sdio right now
May 23 18:00:32 <deadcat> ah
May 23 18:00:39 <mjl-> but i boot kernels from tftp, with root file system in them
May 23 18:51:12 <machinesRising> does anyone know what kind of power levels the sheevaplug can output from it's usb connector?
May 23 19:21:43 <konr> hmmm, is there any way to add a wifi card to that plug computer thing?
May 23 19:25:56 <Md> USB
May 23 19:26:59 <konr> Md: I'm unfamiliar with that, can you name me one device that allows it?
May 23 19:28:56 <deadcat> konr: zd1211rw is not bad.
May 23 19:29:37 <deadcat> konr: ive used zd1211rw,orinoco_usb,prism2_usb
May 23 19:30:04 <deadcat> although i dont they they are as reliable as pci though.
May 23 19:31:02 <konr> deadcat: hmm, do you a commercial name for it, preferably something cheap? ;)
May 23 19:31:59 <likewise> prafulla_: you with Marvell, right?
May 23 19:32:48 <likewise> I wonder what the Marvell Loki (88RC8480) is compared to the Kirkwood or Discovery Innovation, especially considering power usage.
May 23 19:36:57 <deadcat> konr: no. the commercial name is just the logo. you need to find out what company rebrand those chipsets
May 23 19:37:10 <deadcat> konr: go seach zd1211rw and the website has a list.
May 23 19:41:17 <konr> interesting
May 23 19:41:50 <konr> is there any device like this acts both as a wireless adapter and as a 3g modem?
May 23 20:03:43 <deadcat> no clue
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