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Jun 18 03:16:45 <scientes> it eventually arriver :P
Jun 18 03:28:03 <f3ar007> scientes :P
Jun 18 08:42:54 <dattaway> 03:42:24 up 10 days, 18:21,  0 users,  load average: 0.25, 0.23, 0.16
Jun 18 10:05:56 <scientes> how do you do 0 users?
Jun 18 10:06:01 <scientes> dont you need a user to call uptime?
Jun 18 10:08:50 <Super_Roach> ?
Jun 18 10:24:49 <scientes> <dattaway> 03:42:24 up 10 days, 18:21,  0 users,  load average: 0.25, 0.23, 0.16
Jun 18 10:28:30 <lennert> scientes: probably queried via a web server script or so
Jun 18 10:28:40 <scientes> yeah
Jun 18 10:33:13 <Devine> scientes: look at the footer of http://ddevnet.net
Jun 18 11:04:36 <Super_Roach> err
Jun 18 11:04:49 <Super_Roach> CHMOD says that command not found... is that normal? (from bash
Jun 18 11:10:15 <Devine> no...
Jun 18 11:13:59 <Super_Roach> my bad. Case sensitive, I should have been doing chmod :)
Jun 18 11:27:38 <scientes> lamo
Jun 18 11:58:27 <dattaway> I've been trying to get logins to show up
Jun 18 20:39:20 <__dieter__> ping - everybody out there?
Jun 18 20:40:11 <__dieter__> I'm looking for a driver for the SPI controller inside the kirkwood TDM module for recent marvell git kernel.
Jun 18 20:40:29 <__dieter__> Does anybody have an idea if there are some patches available?
Jun 18 20:41:31 <lennert> __dieter__: i don't think there's a driver for the tdm in the upstream kernel
Jun 18 20:41:48 <__dieter__> Hi lennert
Jun 18 20:41:52 <lennert> hi dieter
Jun 18 20:42:02 <__dieter__> yes - thats what I've seen so far.
Jun 18 20:42:22 <__dieter__> But the 2.6.22 marvell kernel does have some TDM drivers.
Jun 18 20:42:27 <lennert> __dieter__: yep
Jun 18 20:42:48 <__dieter__> So i wonder if somebody have ported these drivers allready to 2.6.30 and new kernel architecture?
Jun 18 20:42:53 <lennert> __dieter__: nope
Jun 18 20:43:05 <__dieter__> Hm - thats it :(
Jun 18 20:43:21 <lennert> __dieter__: what board do you have?
Jun 18 20:43:41 <__dieter__> I'm building a customized hardware at the moment.
Jun 18 20:43:53 <__dieter__> But playing around with sheeva plug and also marvell RD
Jun 18 20:44:17 <lennert> __dieter__: you should communicate to your AE/FAE that you want such a driver
Jun 18 20:44:39 <__dieter__> I'm asking because the SPI GPIO multiplexing isn't very useful for real life apps
Jun 18 20:45:00 <lennert> i know there's orion_spi, but i don't know of a spi controller _in_ the tdm unit
Jun 18 20:45:06 <__dieter__> I have allready give him the information but he also doesn't know about an existing driver.
Jun 18 20:45:43 <__dieter__> Yes for sure. The TDM unit owns an second full featured SPI controller.
Jun 18 20:45:54 <lennert> __dieter__: well, i've never looked at the tdm unit
Jun 18 20:46:04 <lennert> __dieter__: can you email me who he is
Jun 18 20:46:10 <__dieter__> And I have to deal with NAND, SD-Card and also an SPI Touch controller at the same time.
Jun 18 20:46:15 <lennert> __dieter__: or shoot me an email about this
Jun 18 20:46:25 <__dieter__> Yes, sure.
Jun 18 20:46:37 <__dieter__> Can I get your eMail address?
Jun 18 20:46:49 <lennert> __dieter__: buytenh@marvell.com
Jun 18 20:46:51 <__dieter__> I think I have read about you in some sources
Jun 18 20:46:59 <__dieter__> Ah , yeah it was you :)
Jun 18 20:47:12 <lennert> :)
Jun 18 20:48:33 <__dieter__> Thats why the SPI controller provided with current marvell git and upstream kernels isn't useful for my application. And maybe also for coming OpenRD-Client boards if someone else want to use touch screens :)
Jun 18 20:48:57 <__dieter__> Is lennert your real name?
Jun 18 20:51:37 <__dieter__> another question - regarding u-boot:
Jun 18 20:52:23 <__dieter__> do you know something about the plannings for GPIO driver support in marvell git u-boot?
Jun 18 20:52:51 <lennert> __dieter__: lennert is my real first name
Jun 18 20:53:14 <lennert> __dieter__: i'm not really in the loop on uboot development
Jun 18 20:53:22 <lennert> __dieter__: what do you mean by gpio driver support?
Jun 18 20:54:07 <__dieter__> I have seen that there is support code to setup the MPP module to use GPIOs as input / output or whatever.
Jun 18 20:54:32 <__dieter__> But for example other boards have some helper functions to read / write gpios.
Jun 18 20:55:14 <lennert> __dieter__: send me mail and i'll get it to the right person
Jun 18 20:55:58 <__dieter__> Thanks very much for the offer - I'm typing right now :)
Jun 18 20:56:22 <lennert> sure
Jun 18 20:57:29 <__dieter__> Lennert, I have asked my FAE for some schedules about upcoming linux drivers / u-boot features.
Jun 18 20:57:42 <__dieter__> But he told me that there is no information available at the moment.
Jun 18 20:57:47 <lennert> __dieter__: so you want a driver for the spi unit in the tdm unit only, and not for the whole tdm?
Jun 18 20:58:16 <__dieter__> Yes, a driver for SPI is all what I need. Rest of TDM isn't required on my board.
Jun 18 20:58:50 <__dieter__> Do you know how marvell will provide this information to the community (if they are willing to do that)?
Jun 18 20:59:15 <lennert> __dieter__: the docs are all open
Jun 18 20:59:25 <lennert> __dieter__: i don't think we formally announce upstream kernel development plans
Jun 18 20:59:39 <lennert> __dieter__: most of it is on an internal as-needed basis
Jun 18 21:00:01 <__dieter__> Ah, I see. I have thought about this.
Jun 18 21:00:20 <__dieter__> So the trick is to generate an internal need ;)
Jun 18 21:00:26 <lennert> __dieter__: yep
Jun 18 21:00:31 <lennert> __dieter__: e.g. by convincing an FAE/AE
Jun 18 21:00:36 <lennert> __dieter__: and have them convince their boss
Jun 18 21:00:37 <lennert> __dieter__: :)
Jun 18 21:01:15 <__dieter__> I will remeber this for the future. But my FAE is very tough! He helps me where he can.
Jun 18 21:01:55 <__dieter__> And additionally I think there are lot of changes by marvell at the moment?
Jun 18 21:02:01 <lennert> __dieter__: how do you mean?
Jun 18 21:02:20 <__dieter__> As I see things right, marvell opens many things to the community,
Jun 18 21:02:25 <lennert> yep
Jun 18 21:02:29 <__dieter__> In former days all was closed.
Jun 18 21:02:36 <lennert> arm socs, sata, ethernet switches, wireless
Jun 18 21:02:54 <__dieter__> Yes, almost everything is now available for everyone.
Jun 18 21:03:16 <__dieter__> As I started evalutation a few months ago all the information come from my FAE.
Jun 18 21:03:35 <__dieter__> By the way: A very good way!
Jun 18 21:04:21 <__dieter__> are you at #openplug every day?
Jun 18 21:04:31 <lennert> __dieter__: yep, i agree :)  it's good that stuff is being opened up
Jun 18 21:04:39 <__dieter__> Now its time to go to bed - 11pm local time :)
Jun 18 21:04:42 <lennert> __dieter__: and i hope we'll open up even more things
Jun 18 21:04:44 <lennert> 11pm here too
Jun 18 21:04:47 <lennert> yes i am here every day
Jun 18 21:04:52 * lennert in netherlands
Jun 18 21:05:15 <__dieter__> ah, than we are not so far away as I expected :)
Jun 18 21:05:24 <lennert> you expected me to be in the US? :)
Jun 18 21:05:25 <__dieter__> I'm near Munich in Germany.
Jun 18 21:05:37 <__dieter__> Yes - but I don't know why :)
Jun 18 21:05:41 <lennert> i guessed from your name that you were german i guess :)
Jun 18 21:06:08 <__dieter__> Sure - your name isn't typically for americans :)
Jun 18 21:06:19 <lennert> well, all kinds of nationalities live in .us
Jun 18 21:06:28 <lennert> but yeah, i'm not John or Jack or anything
Jun 18 21:06:56 <__dieter__> Maybe thats why I remember your name from reading sources...
Jun 18 21:07:18 <__dieter__> Well, thanks a lot for the nice meeting.
Jun 18 21:07:21 <lennert> sure
Jun 18 21:07:26 <lennert> let me know what your FAE/AE say
Jun 18 21:07:35 <__dieter__> Yes - sure.
Jun 18 21:07:43 <__dieter__> Have a good night!
Jun 18 21:07:48 <lennert> you too :)
Jun 18 21:09:13 <__dieter__> One question?
Jun 18 21:09:26 <lennert> sure
Jun 18 21:09:29 <__dieter__> Are there any other people active on this channel?
Jun 18 21:09:42 <lennert> if you ask a directed question, then i think yes
Jun 18 21:09:43 <__dieter__> I have had a look at the logs and it was very quite.
Jun 18 21:09:55 <lennert> i think most people hang out on the forums
Jun 18 21:10:06 <__dieter__> Ah, ok. on openplug.com?
Jun 18 21:10:16 <lennert> not sure exactly, i don't read the forums
Jun 18 21:10:19 <timtimred> what is the air speed velocity of an unladen swallow?
Jun 18 21:10:34 <lennert> timtimred: a german or a swiss one?
Jun 18 21:10:40 <timtimred> uhhh...
Jun 18 21:10:47 <lennert> AAAAAAARRRRGGGGHHHH
Jun 18 21:10:51 * lennert watches timtimred plunge into the depths
Jun 18 21:11:25 <__dieter__> I afraid I can't follow at the moment...
Jun 18 21:11:33 <lennert> __dieter__: it's a scene from a monty python movie
Jun 18 21:11:42 <lennert> __dieter__: if you don't know the movie it won't be funny i guess
Jun 18 21:12:06 <__dieter__> Yes - but maybe I will have to look. What movie?
Jun 18 21:12:17 <lennert> __dieter__: Monty Python and the Holy Grail
Jun 18 21:12:26 <lennert> __dieter__: it's very funny in a nerdy way
Jun 18 21:12:49 <__dieter__> I have seen this a few years ago (many years...) but I can't remember ;(
Jun 18 21:13:27 <__dieter__> Have fun! cu, Dieter
Jun 18 21:13:33 <lennert> __dieter__: byebye :)
Jun 18 21:23:07 <Slugg> hey everyone
Jun 18 21:23:26 <Slugg> my sheevaplug has been giving me a bit of hell, anyone wanna help me out?
Jun 18 21:36:00 <lennert> Slugg: can you be more specific?
Jun 18 21:36:25 <Slugg> Heh, yes. Basically, my plug was working fine
Jun 18 21:36:37 <Slugg> until it all of a sudden decided to stop allowing me to ssh in
Jun 18 21:36:41 <lennert> did you post on debian-arm@ as well?
Jun 18 21:36:50 <Slugg> not yet
Jun 18 21:36:58 <Slugg> this was my first resort
Jun 18 21:37:42 <lennert> ok
Jun 18 21:37:46 <Slugg> I think it's the upgrade that did it
Jun 18 21:37:48 <Slugg> sudo apt-get upgrace
Jun 18 21:37:48 <lennert> do you have serial console on it?
Jun 18 21:37:53 <Slugg> usb yeah
Jun 18 21:38:03 <lennert> what do you see?
Jun 18 21:38:59 <Slugg> actuallu
Jun 18 21:39:02 <Slugg> I've yet to get that to work
Jun 18 21:39:07 <Slugg> serial connection
Jun 18 21:39:12 <Slugg> I'm on OS X
Jun 18 21:39:17 <Slugg> and I installed the drivers and such
Jun 18 21:39:26 <Slugg> but when I do the ls /dev/whatever.PL*
Jun 18 21:39:33 <Slugg> it gives me a no file/directory found
Jun 18 21:40:18 <lennert> hmm ok
Jun 18 21:40:23 <lennert> it would be useful to have that working
Jun 18 21:40:29 <Slugg> what's also weird is that when I try to get access to the webmin on it, I log in and it gives me Error - Access denied for 192.168.1.101
Jun 18 21:40:34 <lennert> having console access will probably tell you easily what the problem is
Jun 18 21:40:41 <lennert> unfortunately i don't know how to do that on OS X
Jun 18 21:40:55 <Slugg> hold on im walking to the plug
Jun 18 21:40:56 <lennert> i guess you probably have to configure an access list for webmin
Jun 18 21:41:15 <Slugg> but see, I can't get into the ssh
Jun 18 21:41:16 <Slugg> to do that
Jun 18 21:41:17 <Slugg> :/
Jun 18 21:41:54 <lennert> yes, so you need to get the console working
Jun 18 21:41:55 <lennert> i.e. serial
Jun 18 21:42:03 <Slugg> yeah im trying again right now
Jun 18 21:42:17 <Slugg> hmm
Jun 18 21:42:17 <Slugg> ls: /dev/tty.PL*: No such file or directory
Jun 18 21:42:27 <Slugg> johns-macbook-pro:~ John$ ls /dev/tty.*
Jun 18 21:42:29 <Slugg> er
Jun 18 21:42:30 <Slugg> wait
Jun 18 21:42:43 <Slugg> johns-macbook-pro:~ John$ ls /dev/tty.*
Jun 18 21:42:46 <lennert> timtimred: can you help him
Jun 18 21:42:55 <lennert> timtimred: getting usb-serial working on mac os
Jun 18 21:43:08 <Slugg> it sees /dev/tty.usbserial-FTS00D6AA and /dev/tty.usbserial-FTS00D6AB
Jun 18 21:44:17 <Slugg> wait
Jun 18 21:44:18 <Slugg> I'm in
Jun 18 21:44:20 <Slugg> the serial
Jun 18 21:45:01 <Slugg> damn
Jun 18 21:45:06 <Slugg> looks like I've forgotten the password
Jun 18 21:45:15 <lennert> hehe
Jun 18 21:45:21 <lennert> boot it in single user mode then
Jun 18 21:45:30 <Slugg> how would I do that
Jun 18 21:45:47 <lennert> specify init=/bin/sh or so on the kernel command line
Jun 18 21:46:14 <Slugg> sorry but I'm a noob here
Jun 18 21:46:18 <Slugg> how do I get to the kernel command line
Jun 18 21:46:23 <Slugg> heh
Jun 18 21:46:28 <lennert> break into the boot loader, and type
Jun 18 21:46:35 <lennert> echo $(bootargs)
Jun 18 21:46:35 <lennert> then do
Jun 18 21:46:46 <lennert> set bootargs <whatevertheechocommandsaid> init=/bin/sh
Jun 18 21:46:48 <lennert> and run 'boot'
Jun 18 21:47:26 <Slugg> im guessing I press the little reset button on the plug to get into the bootloader?
Jun 18 21:47:39 <lennert> no, just hit enter on the serial console while the thing boots
Jun 18 21:48:04 <Slugg> excellent
Jun 18 21:48:07 <Slugg> Marvell>>
Jun 18 21:48:21 <lennert> echo $(bootargs)
Jun 18 21:48:55 <Slugg> unknown command echo
Jun 18 21:48:58 <Slugg> :|
Jun 18 21:49:14 <lennert> 'help' ?
Jun 18 21:49:39 <Slugg> yeah that outputs all of the commands
Jun 18 21:49:43 <Slugg> but I can't scroll up
Jun 18 21:50:05 <lennert> that depends on your terminal emulator i guess
Jun 18 21:50:08 <lennert> try 'echo abc' ?
Jun 18 21:50:24 <timtimred> lennert: i still havnt tried it
Jun 18 21:50:52 <Slugg> I reset it
Jun 18 21:50:53 <Slugg> and it works now
Jun 18 21:50:58 <lennert> Slugg: okay
Jun 18 21:51:00 <Slugg> wtf
Jun 18 21:51:12 <Slugg> Marvell>> echo $(bootargs)
Jun 18 21:51:12 <Slugg> bootargs)
Jun 18 21:51:31 <lennert> printenv ?
Jun 18 21:51:43 <Slugg> worked
Jun 18 21:51:51 <Slugg> longstring
Jun 18 21:51:52 <lennert> what does it say for bootargs ?
Jun 18 21:52:03 <Slugg> bootargs=console=ttyS0,115200 mtdparts=nand_mtd:0x400000@0x100000(uImage),0x1fb00000@0x500000(rootfs) rw root=/dev/mtdblock1 rw ip=10.4.50.4:10.4.50.5:10.4.50.5:255.255.255.0:DB88FXX81:eth0:none
Jun 18 21:52:09 <lennert> ok so
Jun 18 21:52:10 <lennert> type
Jun 18 21:52:29 <lennert> set bootargs console=ttyS0,115200 mtdparts=nand_mtd:0x400000@0x100000(uImage),0x1fb00000@0x500000(rootfs) rw root=/dev/mtdblock1 rw ip=10.4.50.4:10.4.50.5:10.4.50.5:255.255.255.0:DB88FXX81:eth0:none init=/bin/sh
Jun 18 21:52:33 <lennert> all in one line
Jun 18 21:52:34 <lennert> and then 'boot'
Jun 18 21:52:49 <Slugg> booting
Jun 18 21:53:02 <lennert> that should just give you a shell
Jun 18 21:53:12 <Slugg> then from there
Jun 18 21:53:14 <Slugg> passwd root?
Jun 18 21:53:14 <lennert> then you remount your / rw and run 'passwd'
Jun 18 21:53:18 <lennert> mount / -o remount,rw
Jun 18 21:53:23 <lennert> and then passwd root, yes
Jun 18 21:53:27 <Slugg> excellent
Jun 18 21:53:33 <Slugg> thanks a ton
Jun 18 21:53:40 <Slugg> I've been going through hell with this
Jun 18 21:53:40 <lennert> we didn't fix the ssh server yet
Jun 18 21:53:45 <Slugg> ssh works
Jun 18 21:53:50 <Slugg> I just forgot the password
Jun 18 21:53:52 <lennert> oh?
Jun 18 21:53:53 <lennert> ah
Jun 18 21:54:05 <lennert> 23:49 < Slugg> Heh, yes. Basically, my plug was working fine
Jun 18 21:54:05 <lennert> 23:50 < Slugg> until it all of a sudden decided to stop allowing me to ssh in
Jun 18 21:54:12 <lennert> i thought ssh was just broken
Jun 18 21:54:25 <Slugg> yeah
Jun 18 21:54:40 <lennert> but it's not broken
Jun 18 21:54:45 <Slugg> I should have said that it stopped letting me login to ssh
Jun 18 21:54:57 <lennert> it would have let you login had you presented the right password :)
Jun 18 21:55:04 <Slugg> exactly :/
Jun 18 21:55:15 <lennert> i guess you decided to change it 'all of a sudden' ;)
Jun 18 21:55:18 <lennert> anyway, it works now, so good
Jun 18 21:55:24 <Slugg> yeah it's still booting
Jun 18 21:55:27 <Slugg> takes forever
Jun 18 21:55:32 <lennert> hm
Jun 18 21:55:35 <lennert> but it's fast h/w
Jun 18 21:55:43 <Slugg> 1.2GHz
Jun 18 21:55:50 <Slugg> plenty for what I need
Jun 18 21:55:58 <Slugg> it's going to be my backup fileserver
Jun 18 21:56:02 <Slugg> for my house
Jun 18 21:56:10 <Slugg> I've got an external plugged into it
Jun 18 21:56:38 <lennert> cool
Jun 18 21:57:49 <Slugg> is this bad:
Jun 18 21:57:50 <Slugg> JFFS2 notice: (253) check_node_data: wrong data CRC in data node at 0x1cd2e000: read 0x6cc1ff6e, calculated 0xade26b37.
Jun 18 21:57:56 <Slugg> it's been taking awhile to boot
Jun 18 21:58:24 <lennert> not sure
Jun 18 21:58:43 <Slugg> did it again
Jun 18 21:58:45 <Slugg> JFFS2 notice: (253) check_node_data: wrong data CRC in data node at 0x0c7d5800: read 0x6a214bb, calculated 0xdb045697.
Jun 18 21:58:50 <Slugg> different hex that time
Jun 18 22:05:07 <Slugg> yeah it keeps getting hung up on that error
Jun 18 22:05:13 <Slugg> JFFS2 notice: (253) check_node_data: wrong data CRC in data node at 0x1cd2e000: read 0x6cc1ff6e, calculated 0xade26b37.
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