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Jun 25 07:20:17 <BusError> I need to make a leaner OE defconfig for the plug. I'm positive 2/3 of the modules compiled couldn't possibly have any use on it :>
Jun 25 07:21:06 <BusError> otherwise, pluggy ran with a webcam, a 3G modem and a wifi stick on an unpowered hub all night and it's still happy (if warm!), nice
Jun 25 08:17:46 <dieter_> BusError what 3G modem are you using for it?
Jun 25 08:17:57 <dieter_> Ah, and what wifi stick?
Jun 25 08:18:37 <BusError> huaey e220 for the modem
Jun 25 08:19:23 <BusError> wifi stick a random usb one. 'wn321g' cheapo .. works fine with hostap !
Jun 25 08:21:43 <dieter_> sounds good!
Jun 25 08:22:22 <BusError> even got tinc encrypted tunnel working over 3g, so I can in fact ssh back into the plug over 3g :>
Jun 25 13:14:56 <dieter_> lennert: ping
Jun 25 13:15:16 <dieter_> I'm looking into the orion gpio linux driver and have a question :)
Jun 25 13:16:20 <lennert> dieter_: shoot
Jun 25 13:17:00 <dieter_> what happens if I request and use an gpio which is configured as for example mpp usage for SD card interface?
Jun 25 13:17:23 <dieter_> I couldn't see if this is somewhere forbidden, isn't it?
Jun 25 13:17:45 <dieter_> Or should it? I've discussed this yesterday with prafulla for the u-boot driver.
Jun 25 13:25:18 <lennert> dieter_: i don't know if that's excluded, but
Jun 25 13:25:25 <lennert> dieter_: you shouldn't just go around requesting random gpios
Jun 25 13:25:33 <lennert> dieter_: before you request the gpio, you need to know what that gpio does
Jun 25 13:25:48 <lennert> dieter_: so the case you describe should not happen in practice
Jun 25 13:26:22 <dieter_> yeah, sure. I asked because prafulla told me yesterday to ensure exactly this
Jun 25 13:27:16 <dieter_> lennert: should there be a possibility to allow runtime configuration of MPP usage?
Jun 25 13:27:42 <lennert> dieter_: well, maybe, but i don't know of any boards that allow this
Jun 25 13:27:55 <dieter_> I think there is no need for this. This is defined at board level, right?
Jun 25 13:28:03 <lennert> dieter_: yes
Jun 25 13:28:21 <lennert> dieter_: so if there's boards that have external multiplexing, we can add it, but i don't think it makes sense to add it before that time
Jun 25 13:28:32 <dieter_> lennert: ok - so I will go on fighting with git to get some patches ready for prafulla :)
Jun 25 13:28:44 <lennert> dieter_: sounds like you're having fun :)
Jun 25 13:29:03 <dieter_> lennert: yes - it's really fun. But much do learn and no time :(
Jun 25 13:29:33 <lennert> dieter_: thank god you can just ask people on irc and don't have to google for things :))
Jun 25 13:29:39 * lennert runsss :)
Jun 25 13:29:51 <dieter_> lennert: yes - this is really really helpful :))
Jun 25 13:30:28 <dieter_> lennert: nearby - I've got my openrd-base board from nu horizon today. Looks very nice and has SATA and PCIe, too :)
Jun 25 13:31:05 <lennert> dieter_: cool, didn't know those were shipping yet
Jun 25 13:31:24 <dieter_> lennert: seems so - I've got mine :)
Jun 25 13:31:31 <lennert> dieter_: nice
Jun 25 13:31:38 <lennert> dieter_: now we need a board support file for it :)
Jun 25 13:32:13 <BusError> get cracking :>
Jun 25 13:32:21 <dieter_> lennert: yes - thats why I tell it to you :))
Jun 25 13:32:23 <BusError> dieter_, how much was it ?
Jun 25 13:32:49 <lennert> dieter_: but i dont have one :)
Jun 25 13:33:51 <dieter_> lennert: I have to order 3 because of minimum order quantity. cost 150$ /piece
Jun 25 13:34:20 <dieter_> lennert: but sadly I haven't time to switch it on - terrible...
Jun 25 13:34:41 <lennert> dieter_: we don't have time if we don't make time :)
Jun 25 13:35:21 <dieter_> yeah thats right - today evening there is time to play with it :)
Jun 25 13:35:25 <lennert> hehe
Jun 25 13:45:11 <dieter_> lennert: I bouth it to connect my FPGA by PCIe to kirkwood - so now you know why my time is running short :)
Jun 25 13:50:49 <dieter_> lennert: a quick lock at the schematics -> the marvell rd kernel should run quite well :)
Jun 25 13:51:35 <lennert> dieter_: go for it :)
Jun 25 13:52:13 <dieter_> lennert: I will give you some feedback as soon as I have run it up :)
Jun 25 13:52:33 <lennert> dieter_: okay :)
Jun 25 13:53:53 * dieter_ thinks its time to make some time :)
Jun 25 13:55:00 <lennert> :)
Jun 25 13:56:10 <dieter_> hm - no black smoke so far...
Jun 25 13:58:14 <lennert> dieter_: don't worry, you've got two more boards
Jun 25 13:59:00 <dieter_> lennert: thanks for bolstering me!
Jun 25 14:00:29 <dieter_> damn - the ftdi_sio driver doesn't seem to be responsible for the usb jtag dongle :(
Jun 25 14:02:04 <lennert> dieter_: i think you have to add an ID
Jun 25 14:02:46 <dieter_> lennert: yes I try to load it with modprobe manually
Jun 25 14:03:13 <BusError> libusb + libftdi
Jun 25 14:08:27 <dieter_> BusError: no only minicom at the moment - but no ttyUSBx device appears
Jun 25 14:09:23 <dieter_> aaaahhhh, now it worked :)
Jun 25 14:09:59 <dieter_> Fedora release 8 (Werewolf)
Jun 25 14:09:59 <dieter_> Kernel 2.6.22.18 on an armv5tejl
Jun 25 14:09:59 <dieter_> OpenRD login:
Jun 25 14:09:59 <dieter_> Fedora release 8 (Werewolf)
Jun 25 14:09:59 <dieter_> Kernel 2.6.22.18 on an armv5tejl
Jun 25 14:13:08 <lennert> dieter_: nice
Jun 25 14:13:56 <dieter_> lennert: aaarrrrgghhh: they don't provide the root password :(
Jun 25 14:15:51 <lennert> dieter_: ooops
Jun 25 14:15:59 <dieter_> lennert: where have I heard nosoup4you ?
Jun 25 14:16:14 <dieter_> It works - I think it was the same at the password on the sheeva?
Jun 25 14:16:17 <ShadowJK> or was it nosoup4u?
Jun 25 14:16:38 <dieter_> ShadowJK: thats what I want to write :)
Jun 25 14:17:09 <dieter_> uname -a shows: Linux OpenRD 2.6.22.18 #1 Wed Apr 22 20:31:28 IST 2009 armv5tejl armv5tejl armv5tejl GNU/Linux
Jun 25 14:17:34 <scelestic> someone sure wanted to mention armv4tejl ;)
Jun 25 14:17:36 <dieter_> u-boot is also patched 1.1.4 - so I think they use the same setup as for marvell rd board
Jun 25 14:17:49 <scelestic> err..armv5tejl i mean
Jun 25 14:18:08 <dieter_> yes - only to be sure :)
Jun 25 14:18:57 <dieter_> looks very nice - flash is running with ubifs and seem to be pretty fast :)
Jun 25 14:19:05 <dieter_> Ahhh, it's time to play :)
Jun 25 14:20:01 <BusError> are you in the US ? UK ? feel like getting rid of one of yours ? :>
Jun 25 14:21:32 <dieter_> No, I'm in Germany near Munich :)
Jun 25 14:25:58 <dieter_> is PCIe expected to work with latest marvell git kernel?
Jun 25 14:28:52 <lennert> dieter_: yep, it works fine on many kirkwood boards i have
Jun 25 14:29:25 <dieter_> lennert: nice to hear - so I know that my VHDL code is buggy if it doesn't work :)
Jun 25 14:30:09 <lennert> dieter_: exactly :)
Jun 25 14:41:58 <dieter_> lennert: if you are interested in I can upload the board support packages to our companies ftp server?
Jun 25 14:43:08 <lennert> dieter_: just email the -setup file to linux-arm-kernel@, cc buytenh@wantstofly.org ?
Jun 25 14:44:09 <dieter_> lennert: ok
Jun 25 14:46:35 <dieter_> lennert: hm, there is 2.9MB big patch agains the marvell kernel - I have to setup the marvell stuff first and apply the patch.
Jun 25 14:46:45 <dieter_> lennert: will take until tomorrow :(
Jun 25 14:49:12 <lennert> dieter_: alright
Jun 25 14:50:15 <dieter_> lennert: I've opend the patch - the board file should be somewhere in mach-feroceion-kw?
Jun 25 14:50:27 <lennert> dieter_: oh, you're using the marvell kernel
Jun 25 14:51:00 <dieter_> No - not I - they :)
Jun 25 14:51:14 <dieter_> that's why I wrote I have to setup the marvell stuff :)
Jun 25 14:52:39 <dieter_> They are using a patched 2.6.22 kernel and also a patched 1.1.4 u-boot
Jun 25 14:53:39 <lennert> dieter_: oh, i thought you were going to email me a board support file against kernel.org
Jun 25 14:54:10 <dieter_> lennert: additionally this is not a patch only for the openrd board - this a patch for all of the marvell kirkwood and orion boards against 2.6.22
Jun 25 14:54:27 <dieter_> lennert: Hm, this may take a few years :))
Jun 25 14:54:44 <lennert> dieter_: yes
Jun 25 14:55:23 <dieter_> lennert: so I fear this patch isn't really helpful for arm-linux list, isn't it?
Jun 25 14:55:57 <lennert> dieter_: nope
Jun 25 14:56:12 <dieter_> lennert: would it be interesting at least for you?
Jun 25 14:57:25 <lennert> dieter_: probably not
Jun 25 14:58:08 <dieter_> lennert: hm - I will try to run a git kernel tomorrow and tell you if I'm successful!
Jun 25 14:58:22 <lennert> dieter_: okay
Jun 25 23:34:41 <BusError> is there a thermal sensor anywhere in the plug ?
Jun 25 23:35:42 <BusError> I doctored the chassis, it's just running /way/ too hot in there, just added spacers and left the case about 3cm open. I'll need to find a cleaner way...
Jun 25 23:41:11 <Md> BusError: no
Jun 25 23:42:03 <BusError> what about an alternative PSU ? what voltage does it need on the board ?
Jun 25 23:47:03 <Md> just +5Vcc
Jun 25 23:47:42 <Md> BTW, if you open it it's not obivious that the air flow will be improved
Jun 25 23:52:32 <BusError> there is no airflow in there. just 1/2mm wide vents. you need convection for airflow, here there's just a LOT of heat
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