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Jul 31 05:58:26 <dieter_> tinker-f595: thanks - I've had the same idea yesterday evening at home ( whois) :)
Jul 31 05:58:43 <tinker-f595> ???
Jul 31 05:58:48 <tinker-f595> oh the whois
Jul 31 06:00:05 <tinker-f595> dieter_: I searched through the openrd docs and finally found at the end of the schematics pdf the mounting hardware specs for a harddrive.  Now the fun part is finding the spacers
Jul 31 06:00:17 <tinker-f595> Difficult to find metric parts around here
Jul 31 06:01:19 <tinker-f595> which is most frustrating
Jul 31 06:14:07 <dieter_> tinker-f595: what exactly are you looking for?
Jul 31 06:15:02 <tinker-f595> some standoffs so I cna install a 2.5 inch drive.
Jul 31 06:15:46 <tinker-f595> Jameco is about a 10 minute drive from work so I'll go there tomorrow and see what they have
Jul 31 06:16:14 <tinker-f595> actually spacers
Jul 31 06:16:34 <dieter_> tinker-f595: Hm, I would expect that you don't need any spacers if you want to mount a 2.5" harddrive directly on the board.
Jul 31 06:16:57 <tinker-f595> you would be hitting the service mount components
Jul 31 06:16:59 <dieter_> tinker-f595: wait a few minutes - I will try to find a hd and see if it fits on the board.
Jul 31 06:17:26 <tinker-f595> at least with the OpenRD Client you would hit surface mount components
Jul 31 06:17:53 <tinker-f595> and it would pushed into the connector at a slight angle
Jul 31 06:32:47 <dieter_> tinker-f595: yes you're right. Not very fine :(
Jul 31 06:33:14 <dieter_> tinker-f595: so it looks like you have to use spacers - or maybe better cables?
Jul 31 06:33:37 <tinker-f595> dieter_:  last page of OPENRD_16-00050-02.pdf has the specs on the spacers and screws
Jul 31 06:33:58 <tinker-f595> if cables you still need to mount it some how
Jul 31 06:34:05 <dieter_> tinker-f595: ah - thanks for the link.
Jul 31 06:36:00 <tinker-f595> it is in .../opendrd_hardware/shematics_bom ...after you unizp the docs
Jul 31 06:37:07 <tinker-f595> I have a 360 GB 7200rpm 2.5 inch sata drive waiting to go in my open rd....
Jul 31 06:37:52 <tinker-f595> well time for sleep
Jul 31 06:39:15 <dieter_> So have a good night! Bye,
Jul 31 06:42:35 <tinker-f595> thanks
Jul 31 06:42:40 <tinker-f595> and you have a good day
Jul 31 06:43:19 <tinker-f595> oh set up a web server on the sheevaplug and been testing it tonight
Jul 31 07:08:15 <mail4asim> tinker-f595: which webserver are you running ?
Jul 31 07:18:22 <dieter_> tinker-f595: thanks
Jul 31 13:03:30 <Tiibiidii> question:
Jul 31 13:03:41 <Tiibiidii> i found that i don't need to recompile the kernel
Jul 31 13:03:55 <Tiibiidii> since there are those already builded: http://sheeva.with-linux.com/sheeva/
Jul 31 13:04:11 <Tiibiidii> and there's even a bash script
Jul 31 13:04:24 <Tiibiidii> that manages the download and flashing of it
Jul 31 13:04:35 <Tiibiidii> but it says that:
Jul 31 13:04:52 <Tiibiidii>  This is a mainline Linux Kernel and you must set
Jul 31 13:04:52 <Tiibiidii> # the mainlineLinux and arcNumber env variables in U-Boot
Jul 31 13:04:52 <Tiibiidii> # and change the bootargs for a successful boot.
Jul 31 13:04:52 <Tiibiidii> #
Jul 31 13:04:52 <Tiibiidii> # setenv mainlineLinux yes
Jul 31 13:04:56 <Tiibiidii> blablabla
Jul 31 13:05:16 <Tiibiidii> is there a way to set environmenet variables for uboot
Jul 31 13:05:23 <Tiibiidii> from a ssh session?
Jul 31 13:05:49 <Tiibiidii> or i'm forced to connect with the serial?
Jul 31 13:26:46 <ShadowJK> use serial
Jul 31 13:26:52 <ShadowJK> the debug port rather
Jul 31 13:31:40 <dieter__> Tiibiidii: AFAIK inside u-boot/tools there is a utility called fw_printenv/fw_setenv which you can use to write u-boot environment from linux - but be careful :)
Jul 31 13:34:12 <Tiibiidii> uh, thank you both...
Jul 31 13:34:24 <Tiibiidii> even though i don't know where is u-boot/tools
Jul 31 13:34:50 <Tiibiidii> hovewer now i'm reading the wiki on uboot
Jul 31 17:08:47 <MarkG> Hi, my plug should be here in the next couple of days, I wanted to run my plans by people to see if there is anything I missed.
Jul 31 17:09:43 <Q_Continuum> I'm waiting for mine to ship, but I'll listen :-D
Jul 31 17:09:51 <Q_Continuum> You'd do best to rattle it off, and then idle for feedback
Jul 31 17:10:57 <MarkG> I was going to use the default Ubuntu install, and fix the broken bits from here: http://www.openplug.org/plugwiki/index.php/New_Plugger_How_To
Jul 31 17:11:27 <MarkG> then a apt-get dist-upgrade
Jul 31 17:11:43 <MarkG> then get the latest kernel down from sheeva.with-linux.com
Jul 31 17:11:53 <MarkG> http://www.openplug.org/plugwiki/index.php/Install_Prebuilt_Kernels_From_sheeva.with-linux.com
Jul 31 17:12:12 <MarkG> should this be all I need to do to be running the "latest and greatest"?
Jul 31 17:13:13 <MarkG> as there is also the "Sheevaplug installer - alpha-6."   Will this basically get me to the same point?
Jul 31 17:13:32 <MarkG> is there an advantage in either one?
Jul 31 17:21:15 <Q_Continuum> I don't have mine yet, and haven't read into it very much, but sounds like what I wanted to do - update the onboard install, then switch over to using an external Flash drive as my OS, leaving the internal one as a backup.
Jul 31 17:21:56 <Q_Continuum> I don't know if they're updating the base image shipping on them, we'll have to wait and see what arrives on them.  (It'd be great if they were putting the latest on them as new batches come out)
Jul 31 17:22:33 <MarkG> Was going to just use the internal flash on mine.   My understanding was that the boot thing couldn't read external drives.
Jul 31 17:22:39 <Q_Continuum> MarkG, when did you order yours?
Jul 31 17:23:00 <MarkG> June 5th
Jul 31 17:23:08 <MarkG> seems like years ago tho
Jul 31 17:23:14 <Q_Continuum> The original bootloader couldn't do all external - from my understanding the current bootloader (if you update it) can boot anything, the previous version couldn't do like SD cards or something.
Jul 31 17:23:32 <MarkG> it's been sat in Fedex depots for days thou...
Jul 31 17:23:51 <Q_Continuum> I ordered mine June 19th, but someone else on the forums ordered same day as me and got theirs shipped out on the 28th.  Called in yesterday, and was told my order was on it's way to Fulfilment and a new shipment was clearing customs.
Jul 31 17:23:53 <MarkG> a day in Memphis twiddling it's thumbs, and now a day in Stanstead admiring the views.
Jul 31 17:24:05 <Q_Continuum> It's admiring the sights on it's way :-D
Jul 31 17:33:16 <Q_Continuum> MarkG: What all you planning on using yours for?  Random fun/testing, or specific purpose?
Jul 31 17:35:06 <Q_Continuum> mcginnist: You should fix your connection, maybe look at getting a shell account somewheres not on your current connection.
Jul 31 17:36:31 <MarkG> mediaserver (TwonkyMedia), webserver, SMB
Jul 31 17:36:51 * Q_Continuum nods
Jul 31 17:36:51 <MarkG> and a few other odds and ends.  It's to replace my MiniITX system
Jul 31 17:37:41 <Q_Continuum> I'm looking at SMB, email/webhosting replacement (cut that $60/mo bill, and maybe the other $8/mo bill), shell box, and maybe VPN host for some collaboration.
Jul 31 17:37:46 <MarkG> so not a commerical product, but just to serve up content around the home,  and "stuff" to be dtermined
Jul 31 17:38:16 <Q_Continuum> Saving the $60/mo means if I have to buy a couple, I can - although if I buy more, I might look at the OpenRD, as I think that had the crypto chip built-in, whereas the Sheeva didn't.
Jul 31 17:38:30 <MarkG> and of course the coolness factor of having something that was on hack-a-day
Jul 31 17:40:00 <Q_Continuum> Oh wait, the Sheeva does have the Crypto engine, it's just not fully supported yet, being worked on making easier to use.
Jul 31 17:40:22 <lennert> Q_Continuum: openrd and sheeva have the same cpu
Jul 31 17:40:36 <Q_Continuum> Same guts, only difference is form factor and I/O?
Jul 31 17:41:09 <Md> yes
Jul 31 17:41:09 <Q_Continuum> That is what I'd kinda figured it was, but couldn't remember if crypto was on the Sheeva, I knew it was mentioned on the OpenRD specs
Jul 31 17:41:16 <Md> it is
Jul 31 17:42:01 <Q_Continuum> I just want mine to ship, I'm getting ansy. heh
Jul 31 17:42:25 <Q_Continuum> It's been 42 days, hopefully I get a tracking number today
Jul 31 17:43:48 <ShadowJK> The boot thing can read external drives
Jul 31 17:43:56 <ShadowJK> it boots off of my USB Flash stick fine
Jul 31 17:44:21 <ShadowJK> It doesn't seem entirely universal thoughm there's a guy in here that's been unable to find a USB flash drive that works
Jul 31 17:44:22 <Q_Continuum> I seem to recall a recent update added support for like the one last format  that wasn't bootable
Jul 31 17:44:43 <ShadowJK> Yeah, booting from SD/MMC isn't supported by the U-Boot that comes preinstalled
Jul 31 17:45:23 <Q_Continuum> That's what it was
Jul 31 17:48:25 <MarkG> It seems rather hard to be able to benefit from others mistakes so to speak, there is not alot of guidance, and do's and don'ts.  It seems users are left to make the same errors and learn from them.  Seems an unusual thing.   I think I want to have my entire OS in flash, with my content being stored on my USB HDD,  but I don't know if that's the right thing to do, or what is best for performance reasons.
Jul 31 17:48:51 <Chunky_Ks> MarkG that's the easiest way to do things
Jul 31 17:49:02 <MarkG> or should I have the distribution running from the HDD?
Jul 31 17:49:14 <Chunky_Ks> If you care about performance, you can run the distro from the HDD
Jul 31 17:49:33 <Chunky_Ks> but really, why bother. Once the plug is up & running, most important stuff ends up in the DRAM anyway
Jul 31 17:49:33 <MarkG> boot performance or general runninf performance?
Jul 31 17:49:55 <ShadowJK> The main thing for boot performance is to have root filesystem NOT on internal flash
Jul 31 17:49:56 <MarkG> thats what I assumed.  It would only really affect boot times
Jul 31 17:50:00 <Q_Continuum> I was gonna do OS on USB Flash drive, and storage on HDD.  Seems some were having issues with internal flash going bad, and I'd leave that as my fallback system.
Jul 31 17:50:01 <Chunky_Ks> "pulling unholy amounts of stuff off disk" performance
Jul 31 17:50:21 <ShadowJK> Q_Continuum, that's exactly the same as I'm doing
Jul 31 17:50:27 <Chunky_Ks> I don't really care about boot times; I can suck up an extra 30-seconds when the thing is turned on 24/7
Jul 31 17:50:41 <Chunky_Ks> I write to external media, though, because that's a lot faster [and bigger]
Jul 31 17:50:44 <Q_Continuum> Also would let me easily back up the system, by cloning the flash drive.  (Then I can swap 'systems' by changing flash drives)
Jul 31 17:50:48 <ShadowJK> Have you booted yours yet? mounting the jffs2 root fs takes time :)
Jul 31 17:50:56 <MarkG> thats my reasoning.   My services and OS will live in flash, but content will be served from HDD
Jul 31 17:51:22 <ShadowJK> having OS on something flash also means the HD can spin down during night :)
Jul 31 17:52:12 <MarkG> anyone know if the stock Linux kernel has all the marvell patches yet?
Jul 31 17:52:17 <ShadowJK> Let's hope some of the users that go through the exact same hurdles are motivated enough to edit the wiki :)
Jul 31 17:52:25 <MarkG> is there ANY advantage in staying with the kernel that ships with it?
Jul 31 17:52:32 * Chunky_Ks edited the wiki to make it a little more friendly to new users
Jul 31 17:52:45 <ShadowJK> I think sd/mmc might work better with that kernel...
Jul 31 17:52:52 <Chunky_Ks> like, on the "new plugger howto", I added a line that if you don't know what you want when someone says "edit a file", you should just use nano
Jul 31 17:53:05 * MarkG 's been reading the Wiki and finding it a great resource
Jul 31 17:53:12 <Q_Continuum> Do we know if they've been updating the installed image, or if everyone is just getting the same original install?
Jul 31 17:53:23 <Chunky_Ks> I'm an experienced unix user, so instructions that simply say "edit a file" are awesome to me - but to unfamiliar linux users, just telling them to edit something is exposing them to a world of hurt
Jul 31 17:53:24 <Q_Continuum> (between different batches, that is)
Jul 31 17:53:25 <ShadowJK> I think it's been updated
Jul 31 17:54:11 <ShadowJK> I consider myself an experienced and advanced linux user, but I'm total newbie to "embedded" and ARM :)
Jul 31 17:54:28 <Q_Continuum> Ditto
Jul 31 17:54:29 <ShadowJK> I spent most time on figuring out how to make u-boot boot my kernel really
Jul 31 17:54:46 <Chunky_Ks> ARM is awesome. I was totally stoked when the first time I tried to compile my project on the ARM, it worked immediately. Didn't have to change any code :-D
Jul 31 17:54:53 <ShadowJK> I was loading it into the wrong address :)
Jul 31 17:54:59 <Q_Continuum> lol
Jul 31 17:55:06 <MarkG> I'm reasonably happy with Linux (I have a Gentoo MiniITX system currently serving the purpose than Sheeva will be taking on).   But the ARM/Flash/Embedded stuff is all new to me.
Jul 31 17:55:20 * ShadowJK actually has 4 different ARM machines..
Jul 31 17:55:36 <MarkG> another 2 and it's a real sheeva
Jul 31 17:55:40 <MarkG> paint it blue
Jul 31 17:55:45 <Q_Continuum> I would love to see a side-by-side  pic of the Sheeva versus an  OpenRD, from a couple of angles.  Also, anyone know if the OpenRD has an internal  PSU,  or if  it's a laptop-style brick?
Jul 31 17:56:08 <MarkG> I assume that's why it's called Sheeva, the Hindu god with the ARMS
Jul 31 17:56:09 <ShadowJK> Linksys NSLU2 (to be replaced by sheevaplug once I have it setup), Nokia N800 and N800 internet tablets, Sheevaplug. 4 :)
Jul 31 17:56:24 <ShadowJK> Q_Continuum, I think I saw DC power port on it
Jul 31 17:56:34 <ShadowJK> so it's either a brick or a wart
Jul 31 17:56:44 <Q_Continuum> SheevaPlug on it's way, and will be  ordering a "Touch Book" once they start  shipping.
Jul 31 17:57:00 <Q_Continuum> Heh, should make the "wall  wart" a Sheeva with a DC out.
Jul 31 17:57:04 <ShadowJK> Yeah I think I'll get a touch book too, if they start shipping
Jul 31 17:57:25 * ShadowJK removed the plug on his sheeva anyway... sheevabrick?
Jul 31 17:57:33 <Q_Continuum> haha
Jul 31 17:58:57 <MarkG> I ordered my US one, the week before they announced the EU/UK versions.   SO i'll be removing mine too
Jul 31 17:59:15 <Q_Continuum> ah
Jul 31 18:00:07 <Q_Continuum> Yeah, somehow I picture myself with an  OpenRD before too long.
Jul 31 18:02:22 <Q_Continuum> Hm, the OpenRD would work great in a car. being that it  has a direct 12V input.
Jul 31 18:03:01 * MarkG has created a user page on the Wiki and will be posting his experiences  http://www.openplug.org/plugwiki/index.php/User:MarkG
Jul 31 18:10:53 <MarkG> Anyone know how much space the stock Unbuntu uses?
Jul 31 18:11:47 <MarkG> I want to add Twonkymedia, Lighttp (might already be on there?) Samba and Transmission or rTorrent   Would there be enough room for that lot?
Jul 31 18:18:22 * Q_Continuum created user page for himself on the Wiki as well - http://www.openplug.org/plugwiki/index.php/User:Qlaras
Jul 31 18:27:55 <Q_Continuum> Hm, the Sheeva CPU/board is capable of up to 2GB of RAM.  Man,  that'd be nice.
Jul 31 18:28:02 <Q_Continuum> and 1.5GHz.
Jul 31 18:33:37 <Q_Continuum> Any OpenPlug.org wiki admins around?  Should import the 'Help' doco from MediaWiki. http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:PD_help/Copying
Jul 31 21:13:50 <Q_Continuum> Somehow I totally missed that the Sheeva has a SDHC slot on the side.
Jul 31 21:14:42 <Q_Continuum> Or forgot about it, I'm not sure which.
Jul 31 21:29:27 <Tiibiidii> ok, i finally managed to connect to uboot
Jul 31 21:29:56 <Tiibiidii> (stupid cu... i resorted to use screen instead... works flawlessly)
Jul 31 21:30:42 <Tiibiidii> (i'll have to note it in the wiki... it's quite a mess like it is now... at least for us guys without any knowledge at all about uboot and serial connections)
Jul 31 21:30:55 <Tiibiidii> hovewer i have a problem:
Jul 31 21:31:21 <Tiibiidii> pasting 3 lines...
Jul 31 21:31:25 <Tiibiidii> Marvell>> setenv bootargs rootfstype=jffs2 console=ttyS0,115200 mtdparts=orion_nand:0x400000@0x100000(uImage),0x1fb00000@0x500000(rootfs) rw root=/dev/mtdblock1 rw ip=10.4.50.4:10.4.50.5:10.4.50.5:255.255.255.0:DB88FXX81:eth0:none
Jul 31 21:31:25 <Tiibiidii> Unknown command 'setenv' - try 'help'
Jul 31 21:31:25 <Tiibiidii> Marvell>> setenv mainlineLinux yes
Jul 31 21:31:25 <Tiibiidii> Marvell>>
Jul 31 21:31:59 <Tiibiidii> can someone tell me what the heck does this mean? O_o
Jul 31 21:51:34 <mwester> Tiibiidii,  what is the problem?>
Jul 31 21:51:41 <Tiibiidii> well...
Jul 31 21:51:57 <Tiibiidii> it says: "unknown command 'setenv'"
Jul 31 21:51:59 <mwester> Are you asking what the mainlineLinux var does, or what setenv does?
Jul 31 21:52:01 <mwester> Ah.
Jul 31 21:52:12 <mwester> Probably garbage characters from your term em program.
Jul 31 21:52:17 <Tiibiidii> uhm
Jul 31 21:52:24 <Tiibiidii> i pasted that thing
Jul 31 21:52:39 <Tiibiidii> maybe i should retry typing all of it by hand?
Jul 31 21:52:41 <mwester> Yeah.  But there may have been a leading invisible character on the line.
Jul 31 21:52:49 <Tiibiidii> ok
Jul 31 21:52:57 <Tiibiidii> i'll try it now
Jul 31 21:53:02 <Tiibiidii> be back soon
Jul 31 21:53:06 <mwester> :)
Jul 31 21:56:00 <Tiibiidii> uff
Jul 31 21:56:01 <Tiibiidii> did it
Jul 31 21:56:06 <Tiibiidii> it went fine
Jul 31 21:56:08 <mwester> Cool.
Jul 31 21:56:28 <mwester> Don't forget to saveenv if you want it to be persistent.
Jul 31 21:56:30 <Tiibiidii> i wonder if that 3-line-long blob is really necessary
Jul 31 21:56:43 <mwester> Not all of it, depends on your situation and boot.
Jul 31 21:56:47 <Tiibiidii> mhn
Jul 31 21:56:53 <Tiibiidii> i boot from the flash
Jul 31 21:56:56 <Tiibiidii> i just did
Jul 31 21:57:00 <Tiibiidii> printenv bootargs
Jul 31 21:57:15 <Tiibiidii> and substituted/added the things indicated in the readme
Jul 31 21:57:17 <mwester> The ip= stuff is not really necessary if you boot from flash.
Jul 31 21:57:25 <Tiibiidii> good to know
Jul 31 21:58:02 <mwester> But deviating from the readme or wiki is not always a good strategy, unless one is intending to learn the details of what's going on.
Jul 31 21:58:43 <mwester> (Frankly, I'm of the opinion that the wiki is a bit unclear on what it expects of users -- u-boot-literate, or just linux-literate...
Jul 31 21:58:45 <mwester> )
Jul 31 21:58:53 <Tiibiidii> i'm not that eager to learn :D
Jul 31 21:59:27 <Tiibiidii> yeah, i'm linux-literate... but a total noob regarding all these things
Jul 31 21:59:55 <mwester> Yeah.  I think that's true of most users -- learning the details of a bootloader, especially one heavily customized for the Sheevaplug, is not necessarily a transferable skill for most.
Jul 31 22:00:18 <Tiibiidii> (i'm also quite slow to take a decision: i browsed google/wikipedia for an hour to decide the next serial program to try after "cu" :P )
Jul 31 22:01:25 <Tiibiidii> lol
Jul 31 22:01:27 <Tiibiidii> Unknown command 'help' - try 'help'
Jul 31 22:01:28 <mwester> That too is a problem easily fixed, but I've not found the time to do it -- the openmoko project uses a similar serial console technique for their embedded ARM hardware, and someone there whipped up a very simple never-fails serial utility for that purpose.
Jul 31 22:01:34 <mwester> I need to upload that to the wiki.
Jul 31 22:02:51 <mwester> "neocon /dev/ttyUSB<whatever>"  -- that's it, that's the whole thing.  Way way easier than cu, or screen, or minicom, and all that.
Jul 31 22:02:51 <Tiibiidii> <Tiibiidii> Unknown command 'help' - try 'help' <-- since this is the second time happening... and didn't involved pasting (or so i think)
Jul 31 22:03:07 <Tiibiidii> maybe it's indeed a problem of my serial program (screen)
Jul 31 22:03:45 <mwester> Perhaps help isn't implemented?  Or it might be that you need to do "help <commandname>", and the bootloader is too dumb to tell  you about a syntax error?  (I don't recall the specifics)
Jul 31 22:03:51 <Tiibiidii> nono
Jul 31 22:03:52 <Tiibiidii> help works
Jul 31 22:04:03 <Tiibiidii> THAT time didn't worked :)
Jul 31 22:04:09 <mwester> ah.
Jul 31 22:04:11 <mwester> scary.
Jul 31 22:04:18 <Tiibiidii> yep
Jul 31 22:04:23 <Tiibiidii> to exit uboot
Jul 31 22:04:27 <Tiibiidii> and reset
Jul 31 22:04:31 <mwester> makes you wonder what other "funny" characters are going in when you type those 3-line-long mega-boot-options...
Jul 31 22:04:35 <Tiibiidii> i tipe "reset", right^^?
Jul 31 22:04:52 <mwester> reset should work.  I like the paper-clip technique too.
Jul 31 22:04:54 <Tiibiidii> (it says "s")
Jul 31 22:05:15 <Tiibiidii> (it says "reset of the cpu", but how could it reset ONLY the cpu, whatever^^)
Jul 31 22:06:01 <Tiibiidii>  I like the paper-clip technique too. <-- yeah, but i don't like too much those hard resets... i have already done it many times due to "cu"
Jul 31 22:09:35 <Tiibiidii> uhm, i was about to write: "screen was quite easy to set up", now i'm searching trough the man how to close it (without using killall, that is^^)
Jul 31 22:11:58 <Tiibiidii> (seems that detaching is fine... ^A+d)
Jul 31 22:15:30 <Tiibiidii> uhoh
Jul 31 22:15:30 <Tiibiidii> mount: special device /dev/lvm/timemachine does not exist
Jul 31 22:20:11 <Tiibiidii> sudo vgscan && sudo vgchange -a y
Jul 31 22:20:33 <Tiibiidii> i'm also a lvm noob (but that's why i'm using it on the sheevaplug in the first place^^ )
Jul 31 23:06:47 <f3ar007> i think i need to open a port on my sheevaplug with ubuntu, how can i do this through the command line and ssh?
Jul 31 23:07:22 <f3ar007> the port is for a xbox media center streaming app so i can stream data from the mounted hd to the xbox
Jul 31 23:15:52 <Tiibiidii> iptables and /etc/hosts.allow
Jul 31 23:16:01 <Tiibiidii> have you looked into these yet?
Jul 31 23:16:36 <f3ar007> not yet, but i will, i have used iptables but it is not installed
Jul 31 23:16:38 <Tiibiidii> (not sure if iptables is actually active on the plug, i'm at this very moment struggling with the configuration of nfs on my plug...
Jul 31 23:17:04 <Tiibiidii> i'm quite new to this, and think in my case i have to look inside hosts.allow)
Jul 31 23:48:41 <f3ar007> anyone know how to print from command line? i have a printer at /dev/usblp0
Jul 31 23:53:09 <mwester> Usually you would need a package like cups to handle the printing stuff.
Jul 31 23:56:55 <f3ar007> hmm i found p910nd
Jul 31 23:58:21 <mwester> Yeah.  That's basically a network way to do "cat >/dev/usblp0"
Jul 31 23:59:03 <mwester> It doesn't spool anything, nor does it know how to convert the data to be printed into the printer's native language.
Jul 31 23:59:31 <mwester> Might work, if  your printer defaults to understanding dumb ASCII text as a default.
Aug 01 00:00:19 <f3ar007> hmmm
Aug 01 00:00:51 <f3ar007> im a bit lost, if you cant tell, do you know where i could start? what would be the easiest way to set up the printer to share it over a network? cups?
Aug 01 00:00:57 <mwester> http://www.cups.org/documentation.php/overview.html
Aug 01 00:52:53 * Q_Continuum grumbles, still doesn't have his Sheeva on it's way
Aug 01 01:17:26 <f3ar007> should i run shutdown -r now first, before unplugging the sheeva?
Aug 01 01:17:33 <f3ar007> shutdown now*
Aug 01 01:21:07 <mwester> yep, orderly shutdown is good.
Aug 01 01:21:11 <mwester> for all computers.
Aug 01 01:22:35 <f3ar007> okay
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