**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Sep 01 02:59:57 2009
Sep 01 04:43:02 <eFfeM> morning
Sep 01 05:49:23 <bts3685|vps> hey all- for those awake, anyone know what config the kernel needs?
Sep 01 05:56:54 <eFfeM> bts3685|vps: kirkwood_defconfig
Sep 01 05:57:15 <eFfeM> have a look at http://computingplugs.com/index.php/Building_a_custom_kernel
Sep 01 05:58:49 <bts3685|vps> aha! yeah, just found that in the distributed docs. thanks eFfeM!
Sep 01 06:00:51 <eFfeM> np, have fun!
Sep 01 06:04:39 <bts3685|vps> thanks! :)
Sep 01 08:08:14 <eFfeM> anyone an idea how to use the vga port of an openrd client board?
Sep 01 10:37:01 <sam_albuquerque> hey guys, I'm planning of purchasing a sheevaplug.. Wondering if anyone had success with USB Audio?
Sep 01 11:10:43 <eFfeM> i think i tried it, but it should definitely not be a problem
Sep 01 11:10:55 <eFfeM> btw that was for sam_albuquerque
Sep 01 13:26:32 <rabeeh> sam_albuquerque: you can search the forums at www.plugcomputer.org  - i recall people had success with that.
Sep 01 13:28:22 <armin76> rabeeh: did you saw what i told you on query? :)
Sep 01 13:29:45 <rabeeh> armin76: yup; but totally forgot about it
Sep 01 13:30:15 <rabeeh> armin76: so, what's missing now?
Sep 01 13:30:25 <rabeeh> do you have the board up and running?
Sep 01 13:30:45 <armin76> rabeeh: well, you didn't send me the docs about the jumpers, did you? and did you contact robbat2?
Sep 01 13:32:32 <rabeeh> armin76: nop and nop. you could have tried connecting ATX and powering up the board though :)
Sep 01 13:33:49 <armin76> rabeeh: well, its just for planning the shopping list, nothing more
Sep 01 13:41:23 <rabeeh> armin76: i just sent two docs - jumper settings and user manual
Sep 01 13:41:32 <rabeeh> armin76: need anything else?
Sep 01 13:42:01 <armin76> rabeeh: thanks, i'll forward those and let you know if we need something else :)
Sep 01 13:42:38 <rabeeh> armin76: well; if there wouldn't be anything else; when do you think the build machine would be up and running?
Sep 01 13:42:58 <rabeeh> armin76: how much memory are you willing to put on it? HDD?
Sep 01 13:44:05 <armin76> rabeeh: can't say, its not me who has the board, and it needs to be installed on the datacenter, i just asked the status for it
Sep 01 13:44:32 <armin76> rabeeh: don't know the specs either, i think the guy in charge wanted to put 2 hdd depending on the psu
Sep 01 13:51:08 <suihkulokki> armin76: you should drag the guy here :)
Sep 01 13:51:40 <rabeeh> armin76: yea. drag him inside :)
Sep 01 13:56:18 <eFfeM> anyone an idea on how I add a new user? if I use adduser I get passwd: Authentication token manipulation error
Sep 01 13:56:18 <eFfeM>  which is due to shadow I think
Sep 01 14:05:19 <drewid> haev you tried, as root, passwd <username>
Sep 01 14:05:22 <drewid> and setting it that way?
Sep 01 14:07:18 <eFfeM> yes, same error, googled on the error message and everyone seems to indicate the /etc/shadow file
Sep 01 14:07:46 <drewid> i've had that before
Sep 01 14:07:59 <drewid> and not on my sheevaplug
Sep 01 14:08:12 <eFfeM> will try again
Sep 01 14:08:21 <drewid> you might also try
Sep 01 14:08:30 <drewid> removing the password from the shadow file
Sep 01 14:08:31 <eFfeM> actually it is on my openrd board which is also kirkwood
Sep 01 14:08:35 <drewid> and then trying to ssh in
Sep 01 14:08:42 <drewid> if you have that up
Sep 01 14:08:46 <drewid> i've had that work before
Sep 01 14:08:53 <drewid> which is odd, because su <user> doesnt work
Sep 01 14:13:08 <eFfeM> will try
Sep 01 14:14:05 <eFfeM> ssh asks for a password
Sep 01 14:14:09 <eFfeM> so no success
Sep 01 14:14:19 <drewid> poor
Sep 01 14:23:32 <tinker-f595> eFfeM:  sounds like you are not using the correct parameters with adduser
Sep 01 14:32:21 <eFfeM> adduser username
Sep 01 14:32:28 <eFfeM> what else would I need?
Sep 01 14:32:37 <tinker-f595> man is your firend
Sep 01 14:33:18 <tinker-f595> so did you mange to login as root using nosoup4u?
Sep 01 14:33:34 <eFfeM> yes, and now i try to create a new user with
Sep 01 14:33:40 <eFfeM> adduser effem
Sep 01 14:33:46 <eFfeM> but it won't add the password
Sep 01 14:34:09 <eFfeM> and passwd effem won't cange it either
Sep 01 14:34:33 <eFfeM> this has to do with the shadow file (that is what google keeps telling me)
Sep 01 14:35:34 <tinker-f595> so you did not specify --ingroup
Sep 01 14:35:46 <eFfeM> no, then it creates a new group effem
Sep 01 14:36:04 <tinker-f595> so which group do you wan tthe user in?
Sep 01 14:36:21 <eFfeM> this new group which it creates for me (and it does do that part)
Sep 01 14:36:42 <tinker-f595> did you specify a home directory?
Sep 01 14:37:01 <eFfeM> nope, then it defaults to /home/effem (which is created too)
Sep 01 14:37:08 <eFfeM> everything is there except that the passwd is not set
Sep 01 14:37:14 <tinker-f595> hmmmm
Sep 01 14:37:16 <eFfeM> and cannot be chagned with passwd
Sep 01 14:37:22 <tinker-f595> weird
Sep 01 14:37:30 <drewid> have you tried copy/pasting the password for root
Sep 01 14:37:30 <tinker-f595> sounds strange
Sep 01 14:37:33 <drewid> the encrypted nosoup4u
Sep 01 14:37:40 <drewid> to the password field for your user?
Sep 01 14:37:43 <drewid> and trying to login with that
Sep 01 14:37:46 <drewid> then passwd to change it?
Sep 01 14:38:12 <tinker-f595> drewid: question is why his system is acting strange
Sep 01 14:38:26 <eFfeM> drewid, good plan
Sep 01 14:38:27 <tinker-f595> eFfeM: how are you logged in as root?
Sep 01 14:38:32 <eFfeM> via ssh
Sep 01 14:38:43 <drewid> tinker-f595: i agree
Sep 01 14:38:52 <eFfeM> (but i think i tried through the console too)
Sep 01 14:38:55 <drewid> but im trying to help him resolve htis
Sep 01 14:39:34 <tinker-f595> eFfeM: can you think of anything you may have done that is causing the problem such as globally changing file persmissions?
Sep 01 14:40:08 <tinker-f595> eFfeM: you are using an OpenRD Client?
Sep 01 14:40:34 <eFfeM> yes, openrd client, i did not change perms and i am running as root
Sep 01 14:40:44 <eFfeM> drewid: pasting the pw for root did not help
Sep 01 14:41:32 <eFfeM> su effem gives me an authentication failure but does go on (as I am root) but then as effem I cannot change the passwd (nor can I as root)
Sep 01 14:41:41 <drewid> hm...
Sep 01 14:41:46 <drewid> well, sorry i couldnt be more help
Sep 01 14:41:49 <drewid> i've gotta run off those
Sep 01 14:41:56 <eFfeM> np
Sep 01 14:41:56 <drewid> incident at work
Sep 01 14:42:01 <zumbi> sudo su
Sep 01 14:42:02 <drewid> good luck dude
Sep 01 14:42:04 <eFfeM> have fun :-)
Sep 01 14:42:04 <tinker-f595> eFfeM: Do you have a spare vga cable and usb keyboard? If so try changing the password via the gnome ui tools.  Might be some weird tool running from gnome that is interferring
Sep 01 14:42:25 <eFfeM> tinker-f595: not possible, gnome does not allow logging in as root :-(
Sep 01 14:42:32 <eFfeM> that's how I came here in the first place
Sep 01 14:42:58 <tinker-f595> there is a second user setup by default
Sep 01 14:43:26 <eFfeM> i see guest and andmin in /etc/shadow
Sep 01 14:43:45 <tinker-f595> admin trying to remember the password
Sep 01 14:44:42 <tinker-f595> oh and the business about gnome and root not being allowed to login is on only certain distros
Sep 01 14:45:23 <eFfeM> this is ubuntu 9.0.4
Sep 01 14:46:11 <eFfeM> no idea how to allow root to log in into gnome
Sep 01 14:46:37 <tinker-f595> Username: admin, Password: openrd
Sep 01 14:46:48 <tinker-f595> uggg ubuntu
Sep 01 14:47:26 <tinker-f595> I am currently in the process of getting ready to build the latest marvell kernel and modules so I can try fed 11
Sep 01 14:47:47 <eFfeM> i'm more used to debian thats why i opted for ubuntu
Sep 01 14:48:14 <eFfeM> btw adduser adds an entry to /etc/shadow but with ! as password
Sep 01 14:48:23 <eFfeM> guess it is passwd which is causing the problem
Sep 01 14:48:42 <tinker-f595> or ubunut / debian causing the problem
Sep 01 14:48:57 <tinker-f595> never been impressed with their quality
Sep 01 14:49:15 <tinker-f595> and thier package managers seem to do strange things
Sep 01 14:49:26 <eFfeM> i'll be %&%(&(%^$%##@%# 'd
Sep 01 14:49:41 <eFfeM> edited /etc/shadow, changed the ! into a * to see if it makes a diff
Sep 01 14:49:43 <tinker-f595> by package managers I mean the actual people
Sep 01 14:49:49 <eFfeM> it didn't so changed it back
Sep 01 14:49:58 <eFfeM> and now passwd is working and changing it
Sep 01 14:50:03 * eFfeM is flabbergasted
Sep 01 14:50:09 <tinker-f595> hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Sep 01 14:50:19 <tinker-f595> what the?????/
Sep 01 14:50:43 <eFfeM> ooops
Sep 01 14:50:58 <eFfeM> i changed /etc/passwd and now it modified that one, not /etc/shadow
Sep 01 14:51:56 <eFfeM> ran pwconv and it is in the shadow file
Sep 01 14:52:31 <eFfeM> and it breaks again
Sep 01 14:56:23 <eFfeM> hm, i now can enter the pass in /etc/shadow but still it will complain
Sep 01 14:56:30 <tinker-f595> I have fed 8 still on my openRDClient
Sep 01 14:57:29 <eFfeM> probably need to revert :-(
Sep 01 14:57:51 <tinker-f595> hmm well my kernel build failed....
Sep 01 14:58:11 <tinker-f595> thinks I foobarred the pathc process
Sep 01 14:58:19 <tinker-f595> patch process
Sep 01 14:59:17 <tinker-f595> it fails with "... previous definition of 'openrd_base_sata_data' was here..."
Sep 01 15:00:31 <eFfeM> <thonk> sound of head smasing on kbd
Sep 01 15:00:33 <eFfeM> problem solved
Sep 01 15:01:01 <eFfeM> for some reason the clock got an old value and with shadow the pw was immediately considered to be outdated
Sep 01 15:05:12 <tinker-f595> ahhhhh
Sep 01 15:05:32 <tinker-f595> sounds like you need to set the hwclock
Sep 01 15:05:59 <eFfeM> yup, done that
Sep 01 15:06:16 <tinker-f595> is it persisting ?
Sep 01 15:08:40 <eFfeM> well, i can now change the pw without problem and chage -l effem tells the pw never expires
Sep 01 15:08:50 <eFfeM> su effem works
Sep 01 15:09:25 <tinker-f595> and if you shutdown and power off then boot?
Sep 01 15:09:27 <eFfeM> but if as effem I do a su effem and i type my passwd I get su: Authentication failure
Sep 01 15:10:15 <eFfeM> will try that later, system is at home and i am at work, still have an issue with addressing
Sep 01 15:10:26 <eFfeM> can't get the nameserver to stick with static ip
Sep 01 15:11:58 <eFfeM> so i tis better not to reboot from remote
Sep 01 15:12:04 <eFfeM> as i might loose access
Sep 01 15:12:10 <eFfeM> will do so in a few hrs
Sep 01 15:46:21 <armin76> rabeeh: the doc says the ram is ddr2 pc5200, are you sure thats correct? there is pc5300 but not pc5200
Sep 01 16:17:51 <rektide> iii''mmmm bbbaaaccckkkk
Sep 01 16:55:30 <grmartin> I am trying to do a recovery from uboot, and for whatever reason i get "Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(1,0)" i know it means it cant detect a root FS (bad FS or bad mount) but how would i fix this from uboot?
Sep 01 18:30:50 <exlt> my sheevaplug finally arrived  \o/  (and anyone interested, globalscale told me late last week that they had 4000 coming in)
Sep 01 18:55:54 <ibeekman> Hey is it possible to mount the plug flash disk over usb on another computer?
Sep 01 18:56:28 <ibeekman> I was implementing a sudo administration model in ubuntu and did some careless typing.
Sep 01 18:57:13 <ibeekman> Now I can log in but no longer have so-doer privileges and the root account is disabled.
Sep 01 18:58:26 <ibeekman> hmmm awfully quiet in here
Sep 01 18:58:53 <timtimred> yes, although the usb loading i found temperamental last time i tried (and my hardware is not final)
Sep 01 18:59:04 <timtimred> from uboot
Sep 01 18:59:08 <timtimred> bbl...
Sep 01 19:17:28 <ibeekman> Hey is it possible to mount the plug flash disk over usb on another computer?
Sep 01 19:23:50 <ibeekman> Hey is it possible to mount the plug flash disk over usb on another computer?
Sep 01 19:26:26 <eFfeM> you definitely can expose it as mass storage device (search for usb gadget driver)
Sep 01 19:30:34 <ShadowJK> the mtd probably doesn't translate that well to mass storage
Sep 01 19:57:40 <ibeekman> eFfeM: any thoughts on how to do that under Ubuntu?  I need to edit /etc/sudoers, I locked myself out.
Sep 01 20:06:26 <ibeekman> or alternatively is there a jffs2 image of the default factory iunstall?
Sep 01 20:06:30 <ibeekman> *install
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