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Sep 04 05:35:13 <twb> Hmm, http://www.cyrius.com/debian/kirkwood/sheevaplug/unpack.html seems to want to just boot off the USB key forever.
Sep 04 05:35:35 <twb> Is there any you can't just make a JFFS2 image and put it on the mtdblock?
Sep 04 13:38:56 <eFfeM> quiet here today ...
Sep 04 13:57:45 <likewise> sssh :-)
Sep 04 14:04:27 <eFfeM> that's why i am typing all lower case ...
Sep 04 14:04:52 <lennert_> <font size=1>sssssh</font>
Sep 04 14:04:59 <eFfeM> trying to convince my initrd client to act as a router, so learning iptables :-)
Sep 04 14:05:10 <eFfeM> s/initrd/openrd/
Sep 04 14:05:14 <eFfeM> lennert_: hi
Sep 04 14:05:32 <lennert_> eFfeM: hi
Sep 04 14:41:42 <tinker-f595> hi
Sep 04 14:42:31 <tinker-f595> lennert: dumb question for you regarding ARM kernel builds
Sep 04 14:44:05 <tinker-f595> lennert:: When the kernel is initialised how is the mach-type code used?
Sep 04 14:45:31 <suihkulokki> tinker-f595: all the machine_is_foo() work based on the mach-type code
Sep 04 14:47:27 <tinker-f595> suihkulokki: I am trying to find out in what code logic the mach-type is actually used
Sep 04 14:47:50 <tinker-f595> Trying to understand how the boot sequence works on ARM
Sep 04 14:48:43 <tinker-f595> suihkulokki: Can you give me nay more insight on that?
Sep 04 14:52:42 <zumbi> Someone knows if there are OEM boards with kirkwoods or dove (maybe in the future)?
Sep 04 14:54:48 <zumbi> tinker-f595: http://lxr.linux.no/#linux+v2.6.30.5/Documentation/arm/Booting#L65
Sep 04 14:58:30 <eFfeM> zumbi, what exactly would you want?
Sep 04 14:59:07 <eFfeM> few boards, use openrd
Sep 04 14:59:30 <eFfeM> otherwise perhaps contact einfochips
Sep 04 15:00:33 <tinker-f595>  zumbi  thanks doc rrefers to === " r1 = machine type number discovered in (3) above".  I think that is in head.s
Sep 04 15:00:37 <zumbi> eFfeM: i would like a 3U kirkwood board or an OEM to be able to integrate
Sep 04 15:01:14 <zumbi> eFfeM: i mean a board without the box, just the plastic and the silicon :)
Sep 04 15:01:20 <tinker-f595> zumbi: if enough boards they will build. Just takes money ;)
Sep 04 15:01:44 <zumbi> who will build?
Sep 04 15:01:53 <tinker-f595> what do you mean by 3U board?
Sep 04 15:02:05 <zumbi> 3U is a standard format
Sep 04 15:02:55 <zumbi> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rack_unit
Sep 04 15:02:58 <tinker-f595> just making sure you were using it in the standard way and not slang
Sep 04 15:03:01 <tinker-f595> zumbi: my understanding is that eInfoChips does contract design and build word
Sep 04 15:03:29 <zumbi> umm, but then i need to design it
Sep 04 15:03:46 <zumbi> misunderstood, they design it
Sep 04 15:03:47 <tinker-f595> why do you want 3U?
Sep 04 15:03:59 <zumbi> to place into a rack
Sep 04 15:04:22 <tinker-f595> maybe easier to build a rack around the existing boards?
Sep 04 15:04:44 <zumbi> that sucks
Sep 04 15:04:49 <tinker-f595> why?
Sep 04 15:05:00 <zumbi> lots of cables
Sep 04 15:05:05 <tinker-f595> easier to get some metal work done
Sep 04 15:05:27 <zumbi> tinker-f595: do you know a beagle borad like but with kirkwood or dove?
Sep 04 15:05:35 <zumbi> s,borad, board
Sep 04 15:05:45 <tinker-f595> beagle board is tiny
Sep 04 15:06:31 <zumbi> beagle is omap3, i would like similar thing but with marvell chip
Sep 04 15:07:45 <tinker-f595> I know it is omap3
Sep 04 15:08:14 <zumbi> tinker-f595: :-) (do not focus on first stament but second)
Sep 04 15:08:52 <tinker-f595> well that would definitely not be rack mountable
Sep 04 15:09:40 <zumbi> which one?
Sep 04 15:12:02 <tinker-f595> beagelboard sized device
Sep 04 15:20:37 <eFfeM> beagle is not 3u either
Sep 04 15:20:41 <eFfeM> (was afk)
Sep 04 15:20:52 <eFfeM> and if you go for an initrd base board you do not get a cabinet
Sep 04 15:21:17 <eFfeM> it is also a matter of how much pieces do you need, how urgent and what would you want to pay
Sep 04 15:22:44 <zumbi> umm, so openrd (!initrd) is OEM like
Sep 04 15:38:37 <tinker-f595> huh?  they are all oem
Sep 04 15:40:13 <tinker-f595> finaly found where mach type is used ---  ../arch/arm/kernel/head-common.S
Sep 04 17:04:17 <psd1> I suspect this is a FAQ but my sheevaplug has the rootfs as mtd1 only a single other flash partition mtd0 with label "uImage" ... the various wikis mention a uBoot mtd partition, but I don't see one. Is it safe to flash a custom uImage to mtd0 in this case?
Sep 04 17:36:56 <rektide> how do i re-size my /dev/mtd devices?
Sep 04 17:37:38 <rektide> i have a 2 meg uInitrd, it doesnt fit in mtd0
Sep 04 17:37:47 <rektide> tinker-f595: hoping you might know
Sep 04 20:10:04 <ShadowJK> I don't know, but I suspect you just change the kernel parameters that define the partitions?
Sep 04 20:10:11 <ShadowJK> in uboot
Sep 04 20:10:22 <ShadowJK> afaik mtd has no partition table?
Sep 04 20:39:13 <eFfeM> nope, you can configure it in the kernel or in cmdargs in uboot
Sep 05 01:09:00 <tinker-f595> rektide: you there?
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