**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Sep 17 02:59:57 2009 Sep 17 04:45:39 robbat2|na: I documented the lsusb results as requested. Link here: http://pastebin.com/m56157797 Sep 17 06:24:40 adapted, can you post more of the dmesg? Sep 17 06:29:31 i'm suspecting that the Alcor 2.5" enclosure really isn't properly USB compliant. you said it worked on your other machine, can you also post just the lsusb -vv for it from there, if it's different? Sep 17 09:10:16 hello. received my plug last week. Going to try the installer V1 :) Sep 17 09:11:16 SanDisk SDcard 8GO class 4 working fine Sep 17 09:11:42 happy to join the sheeva community. Sep 17 09:13:23 I can't get into the U-Boot serial environment Sep 17 09:13:27 I can load the module Sep 17 09:13:29 attach to the /dev/ttyusb[01] Sep 17 09:13:35 but I never get anything after hard or soft (shutdown -r now) reboots Sep 17 09:15:05 djtdjttfd, what terminal emulator are you using, and is it configured right? Sep 17 09:15:15 tried minicom and putty Sep 17 09:16:01 i stick wth xc Sep 17 09:16:18 # xc -l /dev/tty.... Sep 17 09:16:23 set bps 115200 ; t Sep 17 09:16:24 i dont have a xc command Sep 17 09:16:55 do you have "cu" maybe? Sep 17 09:17:08 yeah Sep 17 09:18:33 cu -l /dev/tty.... -s 115200 Sep 17 09:20:02 has anyone had success with ubuntu jaunty x86_64 Sep 17 09:20:06 thats what im using Sep 17 09:20:32 i seriously doubt that the distro itself is that broken that serial terminals don't work Sep 17 09:21:08 what the chmod I have to do again? Sep 17 09:21:14 any advice about updating rootfs uimage and modules BEFORE running the v1.0 installer ? Is it safer to run the installer first then update ? Sep 17 09:21:25 robbat2|na, it would be the specific driver if it was anything Sep 17 09:21:58 but yes highly unlikely Sep 17 09:21:58 the usb-serial stuff is pretty well tested afaik Sep 17 09:22:07 however i have not gotten anything to work Sep 17 09:22:11 http://pastebin.com/m5e6b1e4a Sep 17 09:24:03 djtdjttfd, you were running cu as root right? Sep 17 09:24:09 yeah Sep 17 09:24:17 but there use to be something in the wiki about chmod Sep 17 09:24:24 and it does give a permission error even as root Sep 17 09:24:39 permission error when you run cu as root? Sep 17 09:24:43 yep Sep 17 09:24:50 this was documented in the wiki Sep 17 09:24:59 you have to set a group or something Sep 17 09:25:07 forget exactly why... Sep 17 09:25:17 no, that was chown uucp /dev/ttyUSB1 Sep 17 09:25:27 which was so that users in the uucp group can access it without being root Sep 17 09:25:44 well that worked Sep 17 09:25:53 maybe ubuntu has a apparmor things or something idk Sep 17 09:26:10 err, you're in, now, running cu as root? Sep 17 09:26:16 yeah im in Sep 17 09:26:22 I mean it ran Sep 17 09:26:26 but nothing from the device Sep 17 09:26:32 "Connected." Sep 17 09:27:20 i'm not sure the default state of the plug, it's not quite the hardware I have, if you reset it, the USB side may disconnect too Sep 17 09:27:29 i'm not sure where the usb serial chip is wired in Sep 17 09:27:31 offhand Sep 17 09:27:44 even with soft reset Sep 17 09:27:46 a reboot Sep 17 09:27:58 and it doesn't say disconnected or something Sep 17 09:28:09 the /dev/ttyUSB[0-1] files remain Sep 17 09:28:55 wait around for lennert or rabeeh to wake up maybe, maybe your U-Boot is corrupted (but don't try anything else destructive) Sep 17 09:29:16 I've also tried on Hardy x86 Sep 17 09:29:18 it boots Sep 17 09:29:27 I just need a more currect kernel with modules Sep 17 09:29:39 as the one it shipped with only had 1 module for vfat Sep 17 09:29:46 err, you're saying you see output from the plug with Hardy? Sep 17 09:29:54 but not Jaunty? Sep 17 09:29:55 no I see no output Sep 17 09:30:00 never have gotten output Sep 17 09:30:13 I am saying that the sheevaplug must boot because I can ssh into it Sep 17 09:31:15 *output through the JTAG Sep 17 09:31:21 weird that you never see even U-boot on the serial line Sep 17 09:31:44 if you can ssh to it, it does have correct inittab links for a getty yeS? Sep 17 09:34:43 ughh Sep 17 09:34:44 i just fried a switch Sep 17 09:34:46 it was wet Sep 17 09:35:25 crispy electronics don't taste good Sep 17 09:36:59 wait Sep 17 09:37:03 ubuntu doesn't have a inittab Sep 17 09:37:09 it comes preinstalled with ubuntu Sep 17 09:37:15 ubuntu uses upstart Sep 17 09:37:52 ok, well whatever equivalent handles terminal creation in upstart on the plug Sep 17 09:38:08 im not sure Sep 17 09:38:49 afk, need cookies Sep 17 09:42:26 If only the internet transported physical goods as well.... Sep 17 09:43:13 we wouldn't have to leave our domiciles then Sep 17 09:43:35 and nobody would know that we're dogs Sep 17 09:45:11 :P Sep 17 09:57:54 has someone used a 64bit host successfully to run the installer ? Sep 17 11:20:26 Is ftdi an absolute requirement to use the installer ? Sep 17 11:22:18 robbat2|na: Here is the link: http://pastebin.com/m5ae5499a (lsusb output on pc, dmesg output on both plug and pc) Sep 17 11:23:58 robbat2|na: The drive enclosure is a cheap one from HK via eBay...but all the ones I see available seem to be using exactly the same board (same size and placement of connectors, at least). If you can point me to a different one that works better, that would be fine! Sep 17 11:26:26 adapted, here's one interesting thing in comparing PC vs plug Sep 17 11:26:35 - wMaxPacketSize 0x0200 1x 512 bytes Sep 17 11:26:35 + wMaxPacketSize 0x0040 1x 64 bytes Sep 17 11:31:10 it needs somebody with more USB-engineering foo than me Sep 17 11:31:24 but i'm pretty sure that it's doing somthing out of spec for USB Sep 17 11:34:30 robbat2|na - that is interesting. I think it is a symptom of the inability to negotiate the right parameters with the device. Perhaps 512 is a fallback default. Sep 17 11:34:48 anyway, I have to go again! Sep 17 11:34:57 yeah, i should sleep Sep 17 11:35:05 stuck implementing RFC2617 in JS atm Sep 17 11:43:27 ok. sorry to have disturbed you. ++ Sep 17 15:36:28 Has anyone tried the v1.0 installer? I am running Windows 7 Ultimate (32-bit), and I want to use the installer, but I had problems with libusb-win32 (it killed my usb until I uninstalled it). Sep 17 15:42:27 i'm trying tonight, but with a linux host Sep 17 15:49:46 It seems that linux hosts aren't having as many issues. Unfortunately, I don't have easy access to one. Sep 17 16:02:55 pckujawa : there is an ubuntu live cd for sheeva development. You could use it to flash your plug Sep 17 16:07:03 Good thinking yaayaa. Do you have a direct link? All I could find was the main ubuntu distro, not one geared specifically for the Sheeva. Sep 17 16:11:12 http://plugcomputer.org/plugforum/index.php?action=printpage;topic=434.0 Sep 17 16:11:30 there is a link to the iso Sep 17 16:12:06 I only run it through virtual box to see if it was not corrupted. Never run the installer through it. Sep 17 16:13:15 Thanks yaayaa! I'll give it a try ASAP. Sep 17 16:31:04 folks, anyone running angstrom or openwrt on a sheevaplug? Sep 17 16:34:05 so far i've seen docs referring to ubuntu (which i'm running using the installer), fedora and gentoo. but none of the distros that normally run on smaller devices Sep 17 19:33:30 hmm, the installer 1 doesnt have a uboot-custom.txt by default for changing the MAC address Sep 17 19:48:22 oh, its uboot-dflt in a different folder... Sep 17 20:19:38 "Error: unexpected Feroceon EICE version signature Sep 17 20:19:38 " :/ Sep 17 20:43:50 Reedy: what folder is that file in now? (I couldn't find it either, in the 1.0 installer...it was in the alpha-6 installer) Sep 17 20:44:27 uboot/openocd/config/interface/sheevaplug.cfg Sep 17 20:46:34 there are also some in /uboot/uboot-env Sep 17 20:46:43 where you can set it.. (presumably just for uboot) Sep 17 20:47:35 Q_Continuum, ^ Sep 17 20:49:11 Wonderful. Sep 17 20:49:36 Yeah, I fixed it after running the alpha-6 installer via uboot. (But that file has more than just the MAC address in it, so I wanted to know where it was) Sep 17 20:50:54 heh Sep 17 20:52:58 Wish i wasnt getting the error above Sep 17 21:31:40 hi all. I tried to run the installer 1.0 with mmc. It failed and now, I got a strange "buffer i/o error" with a corrupted nand. Cannot boot any longer (kernel panic). Any advice ? Sep 17 22:01:01 no one ? Sep 17 22:01:16 yaayaa: try installing with nand instead of mmc. I got the installer to work for me on an ubuntu live cd (thanks for that!) and now my plug is back up and working (nand). Sep 17 22:01:38 The cause of the problem is a ramdisk incomplete write Sep 17 22:01:57 I tried the nand, but still got a ramdisk incomplete write Sep 17 22:02:17 maybe due to the usb stick used Sep 17 22:02:55 did you format the stick fat32 as recommended ? Sep 17 22:03:08 I was getting the same type of error. I started over with a full FAT32 format and v1.0 installer files (with the necessary mods) and it worked. Sep 17 22:04:35 What size your usb stick ? How many Mb ? I did a fat32 format twice.... Sep 17 22:05:39 It's a 2GB (2,000,000,000 bytes) HP cheapo flash drive. The first time, I did FAT32 quick-format. The next time, I did FAT32 full format. Sep 17 22:06:36 ok.... I guess I have to do a 'full' format.... Sep 17 22:07:37 If you had the error, how did you restore your plug ? using this http://plugcomputer.org/plugwiki/index.php/Factory_Default_u-Boot_Environment ? Sep 17 22:07:49 I was getting the ram errors when I tried to use updated tarballs (found on the forum), but it worked ok when I just used everything in the v1.0 installer folder. Sep 17 22:08:33 No. I used http://plugcomputer.org/plugwiki/index.php/SheevaPlug_Installer Sep 17 22:08:54 great. ok thanks. I think the pb should be mentionned in the wiki. Sep 17 22:09:20 If you're on a windows machine, beware of libusb - it killed usb on my machine and has crashed others' PCs. Sep 17 22:09:49 Thanks a lot pckujawa. I'll try it tomorrow. stay connected :). o I use linux and do not have any windows machine. Sep 17 22:10:14 Smart. I used a linux LiveCD, which worked well and protected from a crash. Sep 17 22:10:19 good luck Sep 17 22:13:51 thanks. good night (I'm from france :) ) Sep 17 22:15:54 Ubuntu Desktop ISO's are LiveCD's - so if you've got one, that'll work just fine. Also, can put them on a USB stick these days - current (9.04) has 'USB Startup Disk Creator' (located in System->Administration Sep 17 22:16:59 Point that at an ISO, and a flash drive..and it will walk you through making a bootable USB drive :-D Sep 17 22:17:20 (USB drive is faster than CD/DVD, and allows for saving config) Sep 17 22:45:29 Good to know Q_Continuum. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Sep 18 02:59:56 2009