**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Oct 21 02:59:59 2009 Oct 21 04:10:10 Evening all Oct 21 04:10:46 I just picked up an SD card, and I'd like to put an image onto it so I can boot my plug from it Oct 21 04:12:22 Is there somewhere that I could find a variety of pre-cooked complete distro images for the plug? Oct 21 04:13:18 wiki -- at the urls in the channel topic. Oct 21 04:17:33 yeah, I've bene looking Oct 21 04:17:49 lots of instructions on how to build images Oct 21 04:17:57 all of them start with "first, compile a kernel? Oct 21 04:18:21 I was hoping for something a bit simpler as a "here's somethign quick to try" Oct 21 04:29:29 http://www.plugcomputer.org/plugwiki/index.php/Fedora-ARM_Plug_Computer_Distribution <---- that's what I've been running. Oct 21 04:30:35 I've booted that from flash, USB, and SD. :) Oct 21 04:30:41 oh - and NFS Oct 21 04:32:21 ... oh, hey Oct 21 04:32:46 the curent pluginstaller installs ubifs and includes a whole bunch of modules that I really need - kinda the reason I Was messing with this in the first place was those modules and ubifs Oct 21 05:24:04 ok, so I've run the installer and it said it succesfully installed the new bootloader Oct 21 05:24:10 I'm using linux on my host PC Oct 21 05:24:24 but I'm confused as to exactly how to connect the serial plug so I can read what's going on Oct 21 05:26:44 http://www.plugcomputer.org/plugwiki/index.php/Setting_up_Serial_Console_Under_Linux Oct 21 05:26:48 I read that Oct 21 05:26:50 but it's just not working Oct 21 05:27:37 there's no /dev/ttyUSB* device appearing Oct 21 05:33:31 hi Oct 21 05:33:45 anyone tried putting freebsd on the sheevaplug? i'm wondering what utility i would use to write the NAND flash Oct 21 05:35:11 Vratha: that's the problem - you either write it from linux, load it from pxe or attach a pendrive/hdd to the usb Oct 21 05:35:26 (unless there's something i don't know about) Oct 21 05:35:27 :( Oct 21 05:35:41 heh, i can't even get it booting the installed linux anymore... i screwed up the boot params Oct 21 05:35:52 wiki doesn't seem to be helping with the proper uboot params Oct 21 05:36:38 fun Oct 21 05:36:40 Man, this sucks Oct 21 05:36:47 I got it all working but I can't find a usb thumbdrive Oct 21 05:37:33 and it doesn't seem to want to read stuff off my USB plugin drive Oct 21 05:37:39 Chunky_Ks: you can use a card reader Oct 21 05:37:55 Chunky_Ks: and stuck an sd/mmc/memorystick in it Oct 21 05:38:12 yeah. and I can't find my cardreader either Oct 21 05:38:22 [we moved recently and still unpacking] Oct 21 05:39:05 i've got one which works perfectly well with openrd-client (as in - can put a kernel on it on a readable filesystem and it loads it fine from it) Oct 21 05:39:40 (and i don't think openrd and sheevaplug differ much in that regard) Oct 21 05:40:14 well Oct 21 05:40:26 this plug computer likes to give me issues Oct 21 05:40:33 at least until i get debian or something finally working on it Oct 21 05:59:47 woo Oct 21 05:59:54 fdisk'd the usb drive Oct 21 06:00:00 to jkust have a 1G partition at the top of it Oct 21 06:00:12 and uboot figured it out Oct 21 06:33:18 Vratha: see http://www.openplug.org/plugwiki/index.php/Main_Page and http://www.openplug.org/plugwiki/index.php/New_Plugger_How_To Oct 21 06:33:43 and http://www.openplug.org/plugwiki/index.php/Category:HowTo Oct 21 08:31:37 has anyone here, by mere chance, been running Debian on QNAP TS-209? Oct 21 08:32:55 that doesn't seem like a likely thing to happen by "mere chance" ;) Oct 21 08:33:08 someone may have done it deliberately though ... Oct 21 08:42:32 yes, 'mere chance' is referring to the low chance of having a person like that on this channel :D Oct 21 10:23:34 anyone know if it's possible to reset the sheevaplug via the serial console ? Oct 21 10:24:15 unrealMac: if you can log in over serial, just log in as root and issue the command reboot (or halt if you only want to halt) Oct 21 10:24:31 otherwise through openocd you can connect to jtag and restart Oct 21 10:24:31 i'm trying to boot a new kernel and it's got stuck, would be nice to reset before getting home this evening :) Oct 21 10:24:54 oh, i thought reset as in reboot Oct 21 10:25:10 if you fried the thing look in the wiki for the recovery procedure Oct 21 10:25:23 reset as in "it's crashed, i need to reset" ;) Oct 21 10:25:58 i just need to change uboot setting, i don't need to recover Oct 21 10:26:19 which i can't do since it's crashed Oct 21 10:26:41 how does one connect to jtag ? Oct 21 10:32:08 if you want to change uboot setting just connect to serial, press the reset button with a paperclip and hit space in the console during u-boot starting Oct 21 10:32:38 connect to jtag is the same serial cable, but you need openocd, it is a little bit more complicated Oct 21 10:32:49 "would be nice to reset before getting home this evening" Oct 21 10:33:08 i'm at work Oct 21 10:34:50 does anybody tried to run NetBSD on the sheevaplug or openrd ? Oct 21 10:37:07 been using freebsd on it, i don't think netbsd or openbsd are supported yet Oct 21 10:39:01 and to be honest, freebsd is a little unreliable so far Oct 21 10:39:23 bad ethernet performance, various crashes Oct 21 21:03:06 hi folks, I'm getting 100% CPU on syslogd, then if I kill that I get 100% CPU on pdflush Oct 21 21:03:18 also even touching a file takes several minutes Oct 21 21:03:22 any help? Oct 21 21:22:56 i do have some swap on a USB drive, maybe that's a very bad thing? Oct 21 21:26:14 is this on a sheevaplug or openrd? Oct 21 21:26:23 and what kernel are you using? Oct 21 21:30:09 darkstar62: sheevaplug Oct 21 21:30:18 Linux arm-linux-2 2.6.22.18 #1 Thu Mar 19 14:46:22 IST 2009 armv5tejl GNU/Linux Oct 21 21:30:24 ok, stock Oct 21 21:30:27 (ubuntu 9.04) Oct 21 21:30:29 yeah Oct 21 21:30:36 are you running off internal flash or SD? Oct 21 21:30:41 or usb? Oct 21 21:30:45 running off flash Oct 21 21:30:54 usb disk is just for extra disk space Oct 21 21:31:01 ah, i see Oct 21 21:31:11 hmm...does dmesg give you any errors? Oct 21 21:31:28 nope, there's nothing interesting there Oct 21 21:31:49 and you've got plenty of space free on the flash? Oct 21 21:32:12 rootfs 507M 214M 294M 43% / Oct 21 21:32:23 yeah, I think that qualifies as plenty Oct 21 21:32:53 so i turned off the swap and it seems to be running better Oct 21 21:32:55 does your load average go through the roof during the 100% usage time? Oct 21 21:33:12 hmm, interesting Oct 21 21:33:25 i didn't look at load avg per-se Oct 21 21:33:35 yeah, I run swapless Oct 21 21:33:43 but basically i can't get anything done Oct 21 21:33:53 yeah, I'd bet it's high then Oct 21 21:33:58 we had some problems without swap which i hoped that would aleviate Oct 21 21:35:12 did you happen to see what your free memory was when it was doing this? Oct 21 21:35:44 i didn't take note of the memory usage, but only 60m of swap was in use Oct 21 21:36:31 might take a look through top next time it does it -- see if syslogd is in D state, and how much memory it's taking up (and all other tasks for that matter) Oct 21 21:36:40 kinda sounds like it was swapping like crazy due to little free memory Oct 21 21:36:54 could be Oct 21 21:37:15 I'm gonna try running it w/o swap for a while and hope for the best Oct 21 21:37:26 what do you run on it? Oct 21 21:37:57 we build mono for arm Oct 21 21:38:10 (i'm the novell mono build guy) Oct 21 21:38:11 ah, that'll run you low on memory Oct 21 21:38:16 yeah, it will Oct 21 21:38:35 i don't suppose we can expand this thing to 1gb? Oct 21 21:38:53 which, the swap memory? Oct 21 21:38:55 or the flash? Oct 21 21:39:02 ram Oct 21 21:39:06 oh, right Oct 21 21:39:21 no way I know of -- I think the chips are soldered on Oct 21 21:39:33 ah, well this is still way better than where we were Oct 21 21:39:53 are there newer kernels i can try (already compiled for me)? Oct 21 21:40:07 I think there are -- you might look around the openplug forums to see Oct 21 21:40:16 I think the latest installer for sheevaplug includes the newest kernel Oct 21 21:40:38 I get the installer from marvell? Oct 21 21:40:46 it'll definitely help i/o issues -- I upgraded to get better SD card performance, and it was night-and-day Oct 21 21:40:52 it's on the wiki I think Oct 21 21:40:53 cool Oct 21 21:41:12 thanks for your help! Oct 21 21:41:32 I still can't do a git checkout to SD card without it taking a long time and sending my load really high, but it's a lot faster than it was Oct 21 21:41:32 np **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Oct 22 02:59:56 2009