**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Nov 13 02:59:57 2009
Nov 13 03:01:20 <Adraen> Hi !
Nov 13 03:11:14 <Adraen> I'm trying to setup fedora on my sheevaplug (but i'm fairly new ... received it today), i am able to boot but once booted i got spammed by "ext2-fs error (device mmcblk0p1): ext2_get_inode: unable to read unide block [..]"
Nov 13 03:11:29 <Adraen> and the fedora is booted from a sd card
Nov 13 08:08:09 <mr_queue> Where did you order your sheeva from?
Nov 13 10:26:22 * thorsten has finally fixed his eth1 problem for openrd client -
Nov 13 10:26:39 <thorsten> what kernel / u-boot repo are you folks working off of?
Nov 13 10:27:45 <thorsten> mpp register setup issue - patch to that google group, or what's the preferred way?
Nov 13 11:00:36 <thorsten> sorry, disconnected - if someone answered, I didn't notice ... :/
Nov 13 11:02:03 * thorsten kicks gdb for loading _all_ of the 800MB of openoffice symbols
Nov 13 11:09:19 <Q_Continuum> heh
Nov 13 12:48:01 <schmukkk> is there anywhere i can ship my sheevaplug to have someone check it out?
Nov 13 12:48:06 <schmukkk> i've never been able to log in
Nov 13 12:48:13 <schmukkk> *og into the boot loader
Nov 13 12:48:21 <schmukkk> the ubuntu works but the kernel sucks
Nov 13 12:48:23 <schmukkk> no modules
Nov 13 12:48:55 <schmukkk> the serial driver install, the hardware is recognized
Nov 13 12:49:02 <schmukkk> but on hard reset, soft reset, nothing happens
Nov 13 12:49:53 <schmukkk> I at least need a pppoe driver for some kernel that is on the plg
Nov 13 12:50:18 <schmukkk> anyone?
Nov 13 12:53:05 <schmukkk> or are there headers for the kernel that it comes with
Nov 13 12:53:20 <schmukkk> so i can compile them
Nov 13 12:54:12 <zumbi> iirc, it has a tarball containing kernel sources
Nov 13 12:55:09 <zumbi> schmukkk: can not you log into uboot, using miniUSB cable? note you need to load ftdi_sio module in your development host (if you are linux user)
Nov 13 13:06:48 <schmukkk> yes ive done tht numerous times
Nov 13 13:06:50 <schmukkk> I never get uboot
Nov 13 13:06:54 <schmukkk> ever
Nov 13 13:06:56 <schmukkk> and have never
Nov 13 13:06:58 <schmukkk> the drive loads
Nov 13 13:07:00 <schmukkk> with the values
Nov 13 13:07:02 <schmukkk> and the hardware is recognized when put in usb
Nov 13 13:07:06 <schmukkk> but absolutely no output
Nov 13 13:07:08 <schmukkk> ive used putty, minicom, cat
Nov 13 13:07:10 <schmukkk> all to direction
Nov 13 13:07:12 <schmukkk> something is faulty
Nov 13 13:07:14 <schmukkk> I am using Linux
Nov 13 13:07:31 <schmukkk> i'd really like to have a newer kernel than the one on it
Nov 13 13:07:40 <schmukkk> like 2.6.30, 31 with all modules
Nov 13 13:07:53 <schmukkk> but at least having modules for shipped kernel would be OK
Nov 13 13:08:32 <zumbi> well, you need to find a way to get into uboot
Nov 13 13:08:39 <schmukkk> I cannot
Nov 13 13:08:47 <schmukkk> i have tried _way_ too many times
Nov 13 13:08:50 <schmukkk> and have given up
Nov 13 13:09:00 <schmukkk> someone else might, maybe new devel board, IDK
Nov 13 13:09:16 <zumbi> http://www.cyrius.com/debian/kirkwood/sheevaplug/ has instructions
Nov 13 13:09:20 <schmukkk> getting modules for shipped kernel doesn't require uboot
Nov 13 13:09:32 <schmukkk> is there anywhere they are already compiled?
Nov 13 13:10:13 <zumbi> schmukkk: i do not understand you.
Nov 13 13:10:17 <schmukkk> the modules
Nov 13 13:10:20 <schmukkk> the .ko files
Nov 13 13:10:35 <schmukkk> the sheevaplug I was shipped has 2.6.24 with _no_ loadable modules
Nov 13 13:10:39 <schmukkk> only a vfat module
Nov 13 13:10:53 <schmukkk> I need pppoe.ko to do what i need to do
Nov 13 13:11:15 <schmukkk> vfat.ko
Nov 13 13:12:52 <schmukkk> or maybe vio UART?
Nov 13 13:13:07 <schmukkk> do you know what a kernel module is?
Nov 13 13:13:17 <armin76> he doesn't
Nov 13 13:13:19 * armin76 runs
Nov 13 13:13:29 <schmukkk> armin76, do you have modules?
Nov 13 13:13:52 <armin76> nope, i build the kernel myself
Nov 13 13:13:56 <armin76> and i don't use the kernels
Nov 13 13:13:57 <armin76> err
Nov 13 13:13:58 <armin76> modules
Nov 13 13:14:04 <armin76> i do everything built-in :)
Nov 13 13:14:08 <schmukkk> geeze
Nov 13 13:14:13 <schmukkk> makes a massive kernel
Nov 13 13:14:25 <armin76> well, i just compile what i need :)
Nov 13 13:14:28 <armin76> its not more than 2mb
Nov 13 13:14:30 <ShadowJK> I guess if you find the .config used to build the original kernel, you could modify it to add modules, make modules, copy the modules over, and hope for the best
Nov 13 13:14:32 <schmukkk> also the jaunty preinstalled is badly set up
Nov 13 13:14:43 <schmukkk> ShadowJK, exactly
Nov 13 13:14:49 <schmukkk> now where do i find the approiate files?
Nov 13 13:14:54 <armin76> forget about upgrading to karmic :)
Nov 13 13:15:04 <schmukkk> amey, why?
Nov 13 13:15:17 <schmukkk> has dependancies on kernel kernel syscalls?
Nov 13 13:15:23 <schmukkk> *new syscalls?
Nov 13 13:15:43 <schmukkk> otherwise it should work fine
Nov 13 13:15:51 <armin76> nope, userland is built as armv6+vfp
Nov 13 13:16:16 <schmukkk> OK now how do i get the modules i need?
Nov 13 13:16:28 <armin76> i have no clue, i don't use ubuntu
Nov 13 13:16:42 * zumbi dunno modules :-/
Nov 13 13:16:58 * zumbi hits armin76 with his ARM
Nov 13 13:16:59 <schmukkk> and where can i put commands to be run on startup in ubuntu
Nov 13 13:17:32 <armin76> schmukkk: #ubuntu :D
Nov 13 13:17:54 <schmukkk> well anyways, back to modules
Nov 13 13:17:57 <schmukkk> thats more important
Nov 13 13:18:03 <zumbi> schmukkk: http://sheeva.with-linux.com/sheeva/
Nov 13 13:18:14 <ShadowJK> /etc/rc.local is probably appropriate for startup commands
Nov 13 13:18:21 <ShadowJK> (if it exists)
Nov 13 13:18:28 <schmukkk> zumbi, the kernel i have is 2.6.24
Nov 13 13:18:36 <schmukkk> ShadowJK, ubuntu doesn't use init
Nov 13 13:18:44 <schmukkk> so its all differn't
Nov 13 13:19:11 <ShadowJK> hm
Nov 13 13:20:07 <zumbi> schmukkk: update your kernel
Nov 13 13:20:15 <schmukkk> zumbi, I CANT
Nov 13 13:20:18 <schmukkk> ive already been over this
Nov 13 13:20:26 <schmukkk> the ftdi doesn't work
Nov 13 13:20:29 <schmukkk> i cant get to uboot
Nov 13 13:20:51 <zumbi> you can not write mtd blocks for your kernel?
Nov 13 13:20:56 <schmukkk> i could try
Nov 13 13:21:09 <schmukkk> from linux
Nov 13 13:21:23 <zumbi> yes, but it is risky
Nov 13 13:21:34 <zumbi> if you have no access to uboot
Nov 13 13:21:38 <schmukkk> but anyways
Nov 13 13:21:44 <schmukkk> where can i kernel modules for shipped kernel?
Nov 13 13:21:48 <schmukkk> or .config so i can build
Nov 13 13:21:53 <zumbi> no idea
Nov 13 13:22:01 <zumbi> check the wiki and forum
Nov 13 13:22:05 * ShadowJK wonders what's on the CD
Nov 13 13:23:04 * zumbi has no CD reader
Nov 13 13:38:04 <schmukkk> well, if anyone knows anyone, that knows where i can either find the modules, or find what i need to compile the modules, i would be happy
Nov 13 13:38:43 <schmukkk> cause i really need pppoe and fuse and mass usb to put it to good use
Nov 13 13:43:04 <zumbi> http://www.plugcomputer.org/index.php/us/component/remository/?func=fileinfo&id=2
Nov 13 13:43:10 <zumbi> schmukkk: ^
Nov 13 13:45:53 <schmukkk> i get really pissed at download sites that dont have plain links
Nov 13 13:46:10 <zumbi> hehe, me too
Nov 13 13:56:27 <schmukkk> god i cant find the plain link
Nov 13 13:56:32 <schmukkk> to download straight to plug
Nov 13 13:56:36 <schmukkk> its all bullshit javascript
Nov 13 13:56:51 <schmukkk> friggen rediculous
Nov 13 13:58:31 <schmukkk> maybe its blocked with a idiotic referrer check
Nov 13 14:00:19 <schmukkk> finially
Nov 13 14:04:33 <MarkGi> Hi, does anyone know how to delete uboot enviroment variables, it's driving me nuts having to resetenv each time to clear them!
Nov 13 14:12:21 <schmukkk> use of bzip should be banned
Nov 13 14:14:19 <ShadowJK> why?
Nov 13 14:14:24 <schmukkk> slow
Nov 13 14:14:28 <schmukkk> shitty
Nov 13 14:14:33 <schmukkk> ineffective compression
Nov 13 14:14:45 <schmukkk> inpossibly complex
Nov 13 14:14:59 <ShadowJK> better compression than gzip and faster than lzma ;)
Nov 13 14:15:13 <ShadowJK> atleast with pbzip2 if you've got smp
Nov 13 14:15:19 <schmukkk> ahh sweet zumbi, precompiled modules
Nov 13 14:17:59 <schmukkk> damn quite limited
Nov 13 14:18:52 <armin76> MarkGi: 'setenv variable'
Nov 13 14:19:13 <armin76> MarkGi: empty variable = delete variable
Nov 13 14:20:22 <schmukkk> damn prebuilt for -6, i must have -5
Nov 13 14:22:13 <MarkGi> Hmm, i' having big problems getting my plug back working.   I updated u-boot and it's corrupted it's enviroment
Nov 13 14:23:02 <MarkGi> I have reset the enviroment, loaded a fixed uboot, and trying to set the variables back how they were (I took a snapshot before I started).  But it's not playing ball.  Getting bad magic number where I try and boot
Nov 13 14:28:05 <armin76> MarkGi: which kernel?
Nov 13 14:28:48 <armin76> remember that you need to set the arcNumber and mainlineLinux variables, saveenv *AND* reset
Nov 13 14:28:50 <armin76> before booting
Nov 13 14:29:04 <armin76> if you use a vanilla kernel, that is
Nov 13 14:29:48 <MarkGi> using sheevainstaller 1.0 and latest cxbiker kernel, running from internal flash
Nov 13 14:29:55 <MarkGi> I have set those.
Nov 13 14:36:42 <dieter|work> Hi everybody! Does anyone knows if pci hotplog on kirkwood will work?
Nov 13 14:37:02 <dieter|work> It is possible to deactivate devices by doing:
Nov 13 14:37:03 <dieter|work> echo 1 > /sys/bus/pci/devices/0000\:01\:08.0/remove
Nov 13 14:37:25 <dieter|work> but
Nov 13 14:37:25 <dieter|work> echo 1 > /sys/bus/pci/rescan
Nov 13 14:37:25 <dieter|work> but without any success
Nov 13 14:37:45 <dieter|work> Any help would be welcome ;)
Nov 13 14:39:12 <MarkGi> Even the latest uboot is severely screwed it seems, it's corrupting my enviroment badly.   Back to  the old one I think.
Nov 13 14:39:58 <MarkGi> Unless someone has a open u-boot compiled for Sheevaplug?
Nov 13 14:56:38 <MarkGi> Anyone running a sheevainstaller 1.0?  that can print out their uboot enviroment?
Nov 13 15:21:03 <Adraen> hi
Nov 13 15:25:38 <Adraen> I'm trying fedora 11 on an SD card for my sheevaplug, after quite a lot of time I was able to boot the fedora but i do have some strange errors, the error messages are : http://www.friendpaste.com/7MXsiSCZlyT5QfMo2UgKih
Nov 13 15:31:40 <MarkGi> Hi, I have a bricked sheevaplug (trying to update uboot, and it's all gone pear shaped).  Is there a way of reading out my root filesystem in the NAND from the uboot prompt?
Nov 13 16:23:21 <armin76> Adraen: hrm...thats normal, you should use jffs2
Nov 13 16:24:58 <Adraen> internal nand ?
Nov 13 16:25:30 <armin76> d'oh
Nov 13 16:25:33 <armin76> Adraen: nvm :D
Nov 13 16:25:43 <Adraen> ok ok ^^
Nov 13 16:25:57 <armin76> Adraen: well, you have a corrupted fs...or broken sd card
Nov 13 16:26:03 <armin76> or broken sd reader, but...
Nov 13 16:26:06 <Adraen> can it come from my uboot config ?
Nov 13 16:26:25 <Adraen> i will try to fschk the card
Nov 13 16:27:01 <armin76> Adraen: depends on when you get that, if during boot or what...
Nov 13 16:27:16 <Adraen> i can boot the os properly
Nov 13 16:27:18 <Adraen> ...
Nov 13 16:27:28 <Adraen> well properly i don't know, i can boot it ...
Nov 13 17:14:58 <Adraen> well i can't run the fedora properly so i flashed by sd card with the default ubuntu files (one partition for the boot and one for the rootfs), anybody know what env is required to boot ?
Nov 13 17:47:00 <MrGil> Is there a way to erase the entire NAND in the sheevaplug and will the installer recreate it?
Nov 13 17:47:08 <MrGil> seems I have a bricked sheevaplug otherwise
Nov 13 17:53:29 <Erant> MrGil: JTAG
Nov 13 17:53:59 <Erant> Flash uBoot back, and boot off a USB stick.
Nov 13 17:55:52 <MrGil> getting Bad Magic Number when after it's done the 3rd part of the SheevaInstaller bit
Nov 13 20:46:32 <MrGil> Still having major issues trying to unbrick my plug.   Doesn't matter what I do, I end up with "Bad Magic Number".
Nov 13 20:46:42 <MrGil> It's about to go in the bin :-(
Nov 13 20:58:04 <MrGil> Anyone know of a way of totally wiping the NAND and starting again?
Nov 13 20:58:32 <MrGil> or know a link to the Installer alpha6?
Nov 13 21:09:00 <_dieter_> http://www.openplug.org/index.php/us/resources/downloads?func=select&id=5
Nov 13 21:10:41 <MrGil> Logfile of it all going wrong...:  http://pastebin.com/m2e89f8aa
Nov 13 21:11:25 <MrGil> _dieter_:  That's the current one, I have tried that numerous times, and it always goes wrong.   I was trying to find the older alpha6
Nov 13 21:17:05 <christoph_debian> MrGil: http://www.sieglitzhof.net/~christoph/sheevaplug-installer-alpha-6.tar.gz
Nov 13 21:18:43 <MrGil> thanks, are you uploading it now?
Nov 13 21:20:38 <christoph_debian> should have made it already
Nov 13 21:21:28 <christoph_debian> hm did not but now it's there
Nov 13 21:25:59 <MrGil> was it only 13MB?
Nov 13 21:26:42 <christoph_debian> that should be the origintal hopefully
Nov 13 21:26:54 <christoph_debian> maybe there was no rootfs included
Nov 13 21:27:43 <MrGil> no probs, I have one of those
Nov 13 21:41:28 <MrGil> file seems corrupt :-(  (downloaded it twice)
Nov 13 21:42:58 <christoph_debian> :-(
Nov 13 21:54:39 <MrGil> OK, finally got things back to life.   I discovered uboot is VERY picky about USB flash drives.  I have a 8GB decent brand and never got any sense out of it, just reformatted a el-cheapo 2GB stick, and bang it's worked straight off...
Nov 13 22:39:18 <morfic> MrGil: oh yeah usb drives is a lot of fun with uboot, no matter how well they work once linux gets a hold of the drives
Nov 13 23:36:32 <mwester> MrGil: it's borked for sure -- you'll have to toss it.   I'll be happy to toss it into the bin for you, just mail it to me. :)
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