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Feb 26 03:23:48 <LittleDedPenguin> i was looking into getting a guruplug server plus, any thoughts on this one?
Feb 26 03:34:36 <LittleDedPenguin> ordering one, at least
Feb 26 03:37:31 <LittleDedPenguin> what kind of cooling problems might i run into with a plug ?
Feb 26 04:50:17 <tinker-f595> none
Feb 26 11:31:44 <mjl-> on these new guruplugs
Feb 26 11:31:50 <mjl-> does anyone know how popular u-snap is?
Feb 26 11:32:48 <mjl-> i'm not even sure what it is.  there is also no wikipedia page (so probably not very old/successful yet)
Feb 26 11:35:54 <Md> answer: not at all
Feb 26 11:47:45 <mjl-> it seems to be a connector with power & spi
Feb 26 11:50:06 <mjl-> oh, plus the protocol on top of that
Feb 26 12:30:30 <chemicaloliver> there seems to be tons of new sensor network protocols emerging at the moment, I'm sure some will work and some will fail as with all these things
Feb 26 13:29:35 <randomcake> Hi, I've got a SheevaPlug and I've used the Installer to upgrade Ubuntu, I'm now running into some space issues, is there any way to have some programs install to the NAND and some to a USB flash drive?
Feb 26 13:38:12 <chemicaloliver> randomcake: I'm not sure of the specifics but yes, probably something along the lines of formatting/mounting the usb drive as /usr/bin asfter copying over the existing /usr/bin or somethings, not sure of the specifics
Feb 26 13:38:43 <chemicaloliver> the common way is to install the whole OS to sd/usb hd/usb flash
Feb 26 13:59:39 <randomcake> isn't the onboard NAND going to be faster than the flash drive? My hope was that I could put smaller or more used programs on the NAND and fatter and less used programs onto the USB (like Java)
Feb 26 14:00:24 <randomcake> maybe I just buy a class 10 SDHC and see how that goes :)
Feb 26 14:05:55 <chemicaloliver> I'm sure it's possible but its not that simple. The onboard nand is not as fast as it could be and I noticed no speed difference between an sd the nand
Feb 26 14:06:38 <chemicaloliver> people commonly use debian rather than ubuntu too as ubuntu is no longer supported on the sheevaplug, the install of debian is detailed here http://www.cyrius.com/debian/kirkwood/sheevaplug/
Feb 26 14:07:59 <chemicaloliver> I run debian + as a LAMP server with java and random other bits and my install is ~1GB
Feb 26 14:09:56 <randomcake> yeah, the reason I was using Ubuntu was to stay on the NAND (last I checked debian didn't like that), but if I'm going to move to the SD card then I might as well switch :)
Feb 26 14:10:51 <chemicaloliver> yeah ubuntu will never support sheevaplug now they've moved beyone ARM v5 as the build platform a silly choice if you ask me but....they didn't
Feb 26 14:15:13 <phaidros> anyone got audio encoding, as in music running on the sheeva?
Feb 26 14:15:26 <phaidros> really hard to do that without fpu :/
Feb 26 14:16:07 <chemicaloliver> phaidros: yeah I think it's unlikley to be useful at speeds possbiel on the current sheevaplugs, I think there are future versions with fp
Feb 26 14:16:48 <phaidros> the newer guruplugs (at least the ones with vga) gonna be with armada cpu
Feb 26 18:56:42 <armin76> phaidros: armada can be armv5te too
Feb 26 19:02:06 <chemicaloliver> armin76: what benefit does that give?
Feb 26 19:15:27 <armin76> chemicaloliver: more speed iirc, i think they talked about 2ghz
Feb 26 19:35:48 <chemicaloliver> armin76: ah ok, I thought you were going to refer to ubuntu compatibility yeah the next sheevaplug does promise that
Feb 26 19:52:07 <armin76> ubuntu is not going to bother because they're more focused on smartbooks
Feb 26 19:58:26 <chemicaloliver> armin76: yeah it's a bit annoying but hardly the end of the world
Feb 26 20:51:33 <pfein> my sheevaplug runs ubuntu just fine...
Feb 26 21:02:49 <phaidros> pfein: from karmic there is no arm5 support anymore
Feb 26 21:03:16 <phaidros> armin76: armada as arm5te woult mean no fpu again?
Feb 26 21:40:39 <pfein> oh
Feb 26 22:15:28 <armin76> phaidros: i'm not sure on that...there's not much info for now
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