**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu May 13 02:59:56 2010
May 13 03:08:20 <majost> I have an issue with my guruplug I cannot yet explain -- when I plug in a ethernet cable connected to my LAN, the wifi/AP mode of drops entirely -- and the device doesn't seem to get an IP on either of the gigabit ports
May 13 03:08:43 <majost> I am looking through the udev rules, and nothing stands out as wrong
May 13 03:09:10 <ulterior> Theres a post on the forum about it.
May 13 03:09:15 <majost> ah
May 13 03:09:50 <ulterior> a supplied setup script seems to get confused.
May 13 03:10:41 <dmb> yeah
May 13 03:10:52 <dmb> so this device acts as an access point by default?
May 13 03:11:13 <ulterior> http://plugcomputer.org/plugforum/index.php?topic=1647.msg9966#msg9966
May 13 03:11:17 <ulterior> yes
May 13 03:12:00 <majost> ulterior: thanks! =)
May 13 03:12:21 <rektide> i'm really tempted to get two guruplugs
May 13 03:12:27 <rektide> this openrd barely works anymore
May 13 03:12:32 <majost> dmb: yeah -- without the access part with a wired connection. ;)
May 13 03:12:33 <majost> hehe
May 13 03:12:38 <ulterior> what happened to it rektide ? :P
May 13 03:12:45 <rektide> i only bought it over the sheevaplug because i demanded esata
May 13 03:13:04 <rektide> well, the RTC never worked and i coped with that.  but the ethernet PHY is getting really really flakey.
May 13 03:13:26 <ulterior> sucky. well past its warranty expiration date, I assume?
May 13 03:13:46 <rektide> yeah presumably so
May 13 03:14:01 <rektide> i rather doubt it had a year long warranty, and that year warranty is really really close
May 13 03:14:05 <rektide> year long date
May 13 03:14:28 <ulterior> I almost bought an openrd client, then I was like "screw it.".
May 13 03:14:43 <ulterior> I too wanted esata, but for price/features it wasnt worth it for me at the time.
May 13 03:14:51 <dmb> i'm considering connecting jtag first
May 13 03:15:11 <ulterior> then I got enticed by the guruplug, so I am waiting on it to come in.,
May 13 03:15:24 <rektide> its huge too
May 13 03:15:43 <rektide> the openrd is at least 5x8
May 13 03:15:48 <rektide> half a sheet of paper
May 13 03:15:51 <majost> the only real issue I have with mine is how hot it gets
May 13 03:15:58 <rektide> guruplug? :V
May 13 03:16:04 <majost> yeah
May 13 03:16:18 <rektide> i've got a stack of papers and crap sitting on top of my openrd
May 13 03:16:25 <rektide> still just barely warm
May 13 03:16:30 <dmb> does this jtag box require dc 2.5v?
May 13 03:16:40 <rektide> i used to use Netgear WGT634U routers for everything
May 13 03:16:44 <majost> I haven't tried it yet -- there is a 2.5v input
May 13 03:16:47 <rektide> those fuckers got TOASTY even top off
May 13 03:16:48 <majost> but it also has usb
May 13 03:16:51 <rektide> Broadcom crap
May 13 03:17:02 <majost> so I am assuming it just uses the USB power
May 13 03:17:06 <dmb> oh
May 13 03:17:31 <dmb> i wished there was instructions or something for this jtag box
May 13 03:17:42 <dmb> like, is the mini usb only for serial console?
May 13 03:21:17 <majost> I dunno
May 13 03:21:28 <majost> haven't tried it yet
May 13 03:21:29 <majost> heh
May 13 03:22:57 <ulterior> I am hoping to put FreeBSD onto my guruplug once I get it.
May 13 03:23:51 <majost> yeah, I didn't realize there was a working port until tonight
May 13 03:24:40 <majost> I was considering trying out netbsd, but now that I know I can just install onto a usb flash drive, I might just give it a shot
May 13 03:26:52 <majost> s/it/fbsd/
May 13 03:40:54 <dmb> what is CPU efuse programming?
May 13 03:48:28 <majost> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EFUSE
May 13 03:48:43 <dmb> hmm, trying to get serial console working
May 13 03:48:45 <majost> Sounds like a one-time FPGA
May 13 03:48:52 <dmb> getting junk in minicom
May 13 03:49:25 <dmb> oh wait, maybe not
May 13 03:49:30 <dmb> took a little while
May 13 03:49:43 <dmb> wonder what the root pass is
May 13 03:50:42 <majost> http://www.plugcomputer.org/plugwiki/index.php/GuruPlug
May 13 03:51:58 <majost> I found a discrepency with the AP nameing... but for the most part its all valid
May 13 03:52:00 <dmb> ah thanks
May 13 03:52:10 <dmb> majost: yeah, mine was named plug2-blah
May 13 03:54:55 <dmb> hmm SysRq : HELP : loglevel(0-9) reBoot Crash terminate-all-tasks(E) memory-full-oom-kill(F) kill-all-tasks(I) thaw-filesystems(J) saK show-memory-usage(M) nice-all-RT-ta
May 13 03:55:50 <dmb> wtf, got some really old syslog in here
May 13 03:55:55 <dmb> august 8th
May 13 03:56:00 <dmb> 2009
May 13 04:05:39 <majost> wow! I unplugged my connection for like 10 minutes and my firewall kept the state of the connection! hahaha
May 13 04:10:30 <majost> dmb What was the comm settings you used? 115200,N,8,1?
May 13 04:11:00 <dmb> yes
May 13 04:14:26 <dmb> i wonder
May 13 04:14:27 <dmb> http://www.plugcomputer.org/index.php/us/resources/downloads?func=select&id=18
May 13 04:14:31 <dmb> why is there 3 rootfs?
May 13 04:14:37 <dmb> they need to document their stuff better
May 13 04:15:55 <majost> heh
May 13 04:16:26 <majost> oddly, I can watch it boot via the jtag/usb... but cant type anything to login
May 13 04:16:27 <majost> hah
May 13 04:16:45 <tinker-f595> so you can choose which RFS you want to use
May 13 04:17:04 <majost> What do you mean?
May 13 04:17:19 <majost> oh, you were responding to dmb
May 13 04:17:25 <tinker-f595> I was answering dmb's question
May 13 04:17:55 <tinker-f595> kernel and its modules will work with them all
May 13 04:18:18 <dmb> tinker-f595: know which one is the factory included one?
May 13 04:18:54 <tinker-f595> well if it is like the sheevaplug it would be ubuntu
May 13 04:19:05 <dmb> my device came with debian
May 13 04:19:16 <tinker-f595> have not recieved my guruplug yet though I ordered it back in February
May 13 04:19:19 <dmb> btw, any idea on how to wipe the entire nand to zeros?
May 13 04:19:32 <tinker-f595> dmb why would you want to do that?
May 13 04:19:34 <majost> Why would you
May 13 04:19:55 <majost> yeah, that seems like a bad idea.
May 13 04:20:02 <dmb> tinker-f595: i'm really just wondering if there is a way to access the nand as a whole, but that was the easiest way to word it :P
May 13 04:20:21 <tinker-f595> use the serial debug port
May 13 04:20:52 <tinker-f595> dmb - interesting that it came with debian
May 13 04:21:10 <dmb> i'm using the serial debug port :P
May 13 04:23:09 <tinker-f595> well you use OpenOCD to flash if you want to change the installed Image
May 13 04:28:32 <majost> huh
May 13 04:29:00 <majost> so apparently, if the JTAG is connected and a terminal is open while the guruplug boots
May 13 04:29:08 <majost> and you connect a ethernet cable
May 13 04:29:15 <majost> the reboot loop doesn't happen
May 13 04:29:41 <majost> which would explain how they missed that -- because they probably did all their testing with the jtag connected
May 13 04:30:49 <dmb> i can't get the openocd thing working
May 13 04:30:53 <dmb> openocd flasher
May 13 04:31:13 <dmb> Error: unexpected Feroceon EICE version signature
May 13 04:31:51 <dmb> Error: JTAG tap: feroceon.cpu             got: 0xfc0000e3 (mfg: 0x071, part: 0xc000, ver: 0xf)
May 13 04:33:55 <tinker-f595> I just linked the GuruPlug pages via categories and howto at http://plugcomputer.org/plugwiki so it should be easier for you to find info
May 13 04:34:30 <tinker-f595> majost: bad test protocol
May 13 04:34:48 <tinker-f595> must of been developers testing and not real QA people
May 13 04:35:42 <majost> "Real QA People" are not very common, even in QA. heh
May 13 04:35:58 <tinker-f595> so true
May 13 04:36:20 <tinker-f595> dmb: did you follow the instructions here http://plugcomputer.org/plugwiki/index.php/Reflashing_images_on_the_GuruPlug
May 13 04:37:07 <dmb> yes, thats what I was following
May 13 04:38:46 <tinker-f595> This page mentions the offset has changed http://plugcomputer.org/plugwiki/index.php/GuruPlug
May 13 04:40:08 <dmb> tinker-f595: but shouldn't the guruplug-installer be aware of that?
May 13 04:40:36 <tinker-f595> you need to check the text files and make sure the settings are correct
May 13 04:41:12 <tinker-f595> wonder if the mach type is set wrong
May 13 04:41:13 <tinker-f595> ?
May 13 04:41:36 <tinker-f595> I just looked at your output string and it says fereocon
May 13 04:41:48 <tinker-f595> so wondering if the machtype is wrong
May 13 04:42:42 <dmb> yeah, i'll check in a second
May 13 04:49:02 <dmb> hmm
May 13 04:50:20 <dmb> tinker-f595: full output: http://pastebin.org/228710
May 13 04:50:25 <dmb> looks like
May 13 04:50:36 <dmb> my device is  0xfc0000e3
May 13 04:50:47 <dmb> expected 0x20a023d3
May 13 04:52:12 <dmb> i'm using http://plugcomputer.org/plugwiki/index.php/File:Guruplug-installer.tar.gz, wondering if maybe thats old
May 13 04:55:11 <tinker-f595> hmmm
May 13 04:55:27 <tinker-f595> well I am about to go to sleep...
May 13 04:55:55 <tinker-f595> post a question on the plug forum...
May 13 04:56:48 <dmb> k
May 13 04:57:00 <dmb> i'm probably the only one that jumped right to trying to flash uboot :P
May 13 04:58:16 <tinker-f595> been a long day...
May 13 05:04:55 <dmb> ok, and it randomly started working
May 13 05:04:57 <dmb> whatever
May 13 06:24:01 <DogBoy> I want to use lirc with my sheevaplug but it looks like to do so I'll need to compile my own kernel
May 13 06:24:12 <DogBoy> can someone point me in the right direction for this
May 13 07:26:31 <ulterior> DogBoy: my best advice is to follow a debian guide.
May 13 07:28:06 <ulterior> err wait, you just need the kernel headers iirc
May 13 07:30:03 <ulterior> should be something like.. aptitude install linux-headers-`uname -r`
May 13 07:31:28 <ulterior> then wget the lirc tarball (wget <lirc source url>), unpack it (tar xfz <lirc tarball>) cd to that directory and run ./configure.
May 13 07:32:21 <DogBoy> yea
May 13 07:32:32 <DogBoy> it's been a problem, the kernel headers
May 13 07:34:31 <ulterior> If I may, how have the kernel headers been an issue?
May 13 07:34:40 <DogBoy> heh
May 13 07:34:47 <DogBoy> mostly it's I don't know what I'm doing
May 13 07:35:21 <DogBoy> tried a bunch of different stuff
May 13 07:35:27 <ulterior> so, do you have the kernel headers installed, or?
May 13 07:35:33 <DogBoy> it's or
May 13 07:35:46 <ulterior> because I've got a debian 5 vm I'm testing my own instructions on as we speak.
May 13 07:36:08 <DogBoy> I had trouble installing lenny
May 13 07:36:13 <DogBoy> so I did the tarball install
May 13 07:36:42 <DogBoy> I've since switched kernels
May 13 07:37:08 <DogBoy> using one from this site: http://sheeva.with-linux.com/sheeva/
May 13 07:38:23 <ulterior> This is the point where I tell you I dont have a plug computer yet. I was speaking from years of linux experience :P
May 13 07:39:29 <DogBoy> sounds like good advice
May 13 07:39:41 <DogBoy> I'm kind of scratching around in the dark
May 13 07:40:08 <DogBoy> sheeva:~# uname -r
May 13 07:40:08 <DogBoy> 2.6.30-2-kirkwood
May 13 07:40:36 <DogBoy> I got that kernel from http://sheeva.with-linux.com/sheeva/2.6.30.2/
May 13 07:40:45 <DogBoy> figuring I could use the headers there
May 13 07:40:51 <ulterior> ok.
May 13 07:43:20 <ulterior> might I suggest using this kernel, as it does have a tarball containing the kernel headers? http://sheeva.with-linux.com/sheeva/2.6.33.2/
May 13 07:44:01 <DogBoy> I think I did use that one as well
May 13 07:45:37 <DogBoy> ulterior, what do I do with that kernel headers file?
May 13 07:50:42 <ulterior> Well, once you are booted up into the kernel for those headers, I would unpack that tarball with something like... tar xfz sheeva-2.6.33.2-KernelHeaders.tar.gz -C /
May 13 07:52:43 <DogBoy> hmm
May 13 07:52:47 <DogBoy> I think I did all that
May 13 07:54:12 <DogBoy> kernel is installed
May 13 07:55:30 <DogBoy> so they ended up in /usr/include
May 13 07:55:44 <DogBoy> which seems weird
May 13 07:55:56 <ulterior> which is where they should be..
May 13 07:57:12 <DogBoy> well
May 13 07:57:29 <DogBoy> I don't understand how that would work if you upgraded your kernel
May 13 07:57:36 <DogBoy> wouldn't you be replacing that stuff
May 13 07:57:48 <ulterior> yes
May 13 07:58:02 <ulterior> with the headers for the kernel you are running.
May 13 15:43:09 <dmb> any of you that have the guruplug, do you notice it is easy to break the UART or JTAG port on the device?
May 13 15:43:13 <dmb> seems like it can be pushed in
May 13 17:43:58 <rektide> how hard is the guruplug case to open
May 13 18:03:11 <dmb> never tried yet
May 13 18:41:59 <chemicaloliver> rektide: the normal sheevaplug is just four screws
May 14 02:11:47 <Majost> has anyone upgraded their guruplug to sid?
May 14 02:11:55 <Majost> any if so, was it a smooth upgrade?
May 14 02:46:50 <DogBoy> I didn't know you could install debian on a guruplug
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