**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat May 15 02:59:57 2010 May 15 03:01:06 anyone have a recent kernel configuration that i can use with a fedora distro i'm rolling ? May 15 03:53:50 LittleDedPenguin: is the driver open source? May 15 03:53:54 what chipset? May 15 04:19:27 an updated Ftdi_sio.ko so i can see the JTAG port also, right now all i see is the serial port May 15 04:31:33 LittleDedPenguin: i don't think i had to update Ftdi_sio.ko May 15 07:15:51 ftdi_sio is GPL. globalspace can be forced to shared source or they will be sued May 15 07:15:56 share* May 15 08:51:54 * ShadowJK sees two ports with fedora ftdi May 15 16:06:31 MoDaX: the stock one included seems to work fine for me :/ May 15 16:10:50 the one included with my os May 15 18:16:14 hi May 15 18:16:19 there's someone here? May 15 18:16:41 i was going to install debian with the sheevaplug installer May 15 18:16:45 but by reading the readme May 15 18:17:15 forget that... nevermind... May 15 18:17:22 let's see if it works May 15 18:19:34 uh... i was wrong again May 15 18:19:51 * Tiibiidii is confused by two almost identical lines in the readme May 15 18:20:03 the readme says: May 15 18:20:17 "Safely remove the USB stick from the host PC and plug it into the Plug's USB host interface (not via USB HUB!)" May 15 18:20:20 the problem is May 15 18:20:25 i can't do that May 15 18:20:54 do you think it may cause some problems to plug it directly in a usb hub? May 15 18:51:47 Tiibiidii: what do you have plugged on the usb hub? May 15 18:52:07 a usb flash drive May 15 18:52:34 containing the uboot, intrd, rootfs.tar.gz and the like May 15 18:52:48 and why don't you connect it directly on the usb port May 15 18:52:49 ? May 15 18:53:01 it seems the flashing went fine... but now there's another problem with the boot May 15 18:53:04 i can't May 15 18:53:06 it's broken May 15 18:53:18 it doesn't powers up the usb, May 15 18:53:24 oh... May 15 18:53:32 well, i'm not sure why does it say not via usb hub May 15 18:53:50 could be because if you have more than one storage device, it may name them differently May 15 18:54:03 so if you don't have any other thing plugged into the hub, maybe it works May 15 18:54:06 i'm not sure, though May 15 18:54:09 so i had to route it through a 3way usb cable and an usb hub (unfortunately globalscale was deaf to my request of returning my sheevaplug to them) May 15 18:54:20 mhn, ok May 15 18:55:15 uhm May 15 18:55:31 armin76, can you ask another thing if you've ever used the sheevaplug installer? May 15 18:56:25 i haven't May 15 18:56:53 uh May 15 18:57:32 well... i'll still write here... maybe you or something other will know what's the problem: May 15 18:57:43 these are the last lines of my sheevaplug boot process: May 15 18:57:43 http://pastebin.com/wZPmTffn May 15 18:58:00 it seems that the boot option isn't set correctly May 15 18:58:06 so May 15 18:58:35 inside uboot-nand-custom.txt there're some lines to modify May 15 18:58:43 one of these says: May 15 18:58:51 # Following for installation on SD card. If you want to boot from USB stick change it to /dev/sda1 May 15 18:58:51 # or /dev/mtdblock1 if you installed rootfs on the NAND inside the plug May 15 18:59:28 and the line itself to modify is: May 15 18:59:28 bootargs_root ubi.mtd=1 root=ubi0:rootfs rootfstype=ubifs May 15 18:59:36 to me seemed fine May 15 19:00:03 but if it's not working i guess i should've specified /dev/mtdblock1 manually somewhere inside that line May 15 19:00:17 but i'm not sure where May 15 19:00:25 i guess it's root= May 15 19:00:31 but i'm not sure if it's May 15 19:00:36 root=/dev/mtdblock1 May 15 19:00:45 or root=ubi0:/dev/mtdblock1 May 15 19:00:55 or root=/dev/mtdblock1:rootfs May 15 19:01:13 i mean... i don't know the meaning of that colon in that default value May 15 19:04:26 someone here can tell me the value of their "bootargs_root" May 15 19:04:27 ? May 15 19:05:25 (by using printenv i'm seeing that's it's exactly like the one in that line above... unfortunately i didn't kept the previous value signed somewhere as a reference) May 15 19:14:41 ok, i tried with May 15 19:14:46 bootargs_root ubi.mtd=1 root=/dev/mtdblock1 rootfstype=ubifs May 15 19:14:55 and indeed it get to flash the rootfs.tar.gz May 15 19:15:06 but now i've yet another kernel panic during boot :/ May 15 19:17:30 this is the new kernel panic: May 15 19:17:31 http://pastebin.com/4d3Zz2Lj May 15 21:20:47 i tried using the original rootfs.tar.gz shipped with the sheevaplug installer May 15 21:20:52 and the problem persist May 15 21:21:04 someone here has ever used the sheevaplug installer? May 15 21:21:13 what could i've been doing wrong? May 15 21:28:27 Drogba, sorry if i bother you, have you ever used the sheevaplug installer? May 15 21:30:57 * Drogba Discounts!! Our Special Limited Time Offers Up To May,22!!!New BranD!! Notebooks,Plasma and LCD TV's.Buy your electronic needs at our unique prices. Laptop Sony VAIO® VGN-FW590FFD-575,57$!!!Apple MacBook® Air MC234LL/A-695,27$!!! http://www.elplace.com/ May 15 21:31:12 -_- May 15 21:33:56 Tiibiidii: just read the instructions and follow them. I foundthe original sheeavplug installer worked much better than the later ones. It was simple and used shell script May 15 21:34:07 mhn May 15 21:34:12 i followed the instructions May 15 21:34:30 (actually, the instruction in the readme are wrong since september 2009, but i sorted out those problems) May 15 21:34:55 do you mean you didn't had any problem at all with the sheevaplug installer? May 15 21:35:46 tinker-f595, but with " I foundthe original sheeavplug installer worked much better than the later ones. It was simple and used shell script" are you suggesting i should be better off avoiding to use the sheevaplug installer? May 15 21:36:52 you did not follow the instructions as you used a usb hub May 15 21:37:12 the original sheevaplug installer works fine May 15 21:38:10 use the original sheevaplug installer as that is known to work. May 15 21:38:59 Someone created a 2nd one that required php which is kind of weird and then someone wrote one in python but the original one in the used opencd and shell script worked fine May 15 21:39:27 you did not follow the instructions as you used a usb hub <-- well, i don't have a choice as i explained, besides that, that shouldn't be the problem, since the rootfs.tar.gz seems to be read fine May 15 21:39:29 usb hub can cause problems May 15 21:39:51 Someone created a 2nd one that required php which is kind of weird and then someone wrote one in python but the original one in the used opencd and shell script worked fine <-- ok, thank you May 15 21:39:54 why don't you have a choice? May 15 21:40:15 eh, probably you don't remember me, but i got this sheevaplug about a year ago :P May 15 21:40:28 oh I vaguely remember you May 15 21:40:34 and from july to september i struggled with a problem to the usb May 15 21:40:41 I mean how could one forget the handle ;) May 15 21:40:47 in the end i managed to workaround it by using an usb hub May 15 21:40:53 asd May 15 21:40:56 but why do you need the hub? May 15 21:41:09 well... the usb doesn't powers the usb May 15 21:41:09 so May 15 21:41:17 i connected the usb to the hub May 15 21:41:23 through a 3way usb cable May 15 21:41:25 which brand of usb hub? May 15 21:41:28 mhn May 15 21:41:31 d-link May 15 21:41:34 3 way usb cable? May 15 21:41:35 is a powered usb hub May 15 21:41:36 yes May 15 21:41:55 the one used with external hard drives, to ensure they get enough power to spin up May 15 21:42:00 is the 3rd connection to power the hub May 15 21:42:01 ? May 15 21:42:11 almost :) May 15 21:42:16 hmmmm May 15 21:42:21 is to power _the connection_ to the hub May 15 21:42:44 I would get a usb hub that is powered from a small regulated supply May 15 21:43:00 yes, the hub is powered by its supply May 15 21:43:14 maybe i would explain myself better with a photo of the setup :D May 15 21:43:30 oh it is? and you sure the power supply is keeping the voltage up? May 15 21:43:55 wait a minute and i'll upload the photo :P May 15 21:44:05 trying to remember how I did this May 15 21:46:18 I put the software to be loaded on a usb stick and plugged it into the sheevaplug. I connected the host computer via usb to the sheevaplug serial port and made sure that the connection was okay via the hosts ftdio driver. I then ran the installer on the host. It has been a few months since I last did this. I could nx into my server and see if I can find my notes May 15 21:49:45 ok, thank you again May 15 21:50:01 however... this is the photo... May 15 21:50:02 TCP cubic registered May 15 21:50:02 NET: Registered protocol family 17 May 15 21:50:02 RPC: Registered udp transport module. May 15 21:50:02 RPC: Registered tcp transport module. May 15 21:50:02 lib80211: common routines for IEEE802.11 drivers May 15 21:50:04 rtc-mv rtc-mv: setting system clock to 2010-05-15 21:22:30 UTC (1273958550) May 15 21:50:06 UBIFS error (pid 1): ubifs_get_sb: cannot open "/dev/root", error -22 May 15 21:50:08 List of all partitions: May 15 21:50:10 1f00 4096 mtdblock0 (driver?) May 15 21:50:12 1f01 519168 mtdblock1 (driver?) May 15 21:50:14 No filesystem could mount root, tried: ubifs May 15 21:50:16 Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(31,1) May 15 21:50:18 [] (unwind_backtrace+0x0/0xe0) from [] (panic+0x50/0x120) May 15 21:50:20 [] (panic+0x50/0x120) from [] (mount_block_root+0x1d4/0x214) May 15 21:50:22 [] (mount_block_root+0x1d4/0x214) from [] (prepare_namespace+0x16c/0x1c4) May 15 21:50:24 [] (prepare_namespace+0x16c/0x1c4) from [] (kernel_init+0xc0/0xec) May 15 21:50:26 [] (kernel_init+0xc0/0xec) from [] (do_exit+0x0/0x6ac) May 15 21:50:28 ops May 15 21:50:32 (i had in the clipboard the kernel panic) May 15 21:50:34 http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/5976/20100515234425.jpg May 15 21:50:36 here it is May 15 21:50:39 sorry for the crappy quality May 15 21:51:00 left: sheevaplug, right dlink hub May 15 21:51:05 silver cable: usb 3 way cable May 15 21:51:12 one end in the sheevaplug May 15 21:51:27 the other end in the rear of the hub to connect the sheevaplug to the hub May 15 21:52:11 the 3rd end inside the host of the usb hub, to receive power from it and thus connect the sheeva with the hub May 15 21:52:21 (also there's the usb flash drive inside the hub) May 15 21:52:46 the black cable on the rear is a AtoB usb cable May 15 21:53:48 ??? May 15 21:54:27 so what you plugging into the (USB)serial port on the plug? May 15 21:54:48 i plugged out the cable to avoid cluttering too much the photo :P May 15 21:54:58 but obviously it's here May 15 21:55:00 hmmmmm May 15 21:55:05 nope not obvious May 15 21:55:13 lol May 15 21:55:31 anyway from the dump it looks like you have a bad offset May 15 21:55:48 mhn May 15 21:56:03 ??? May 15 21:56:23 i found this link, it has a similar problem, and he managed to solve it by adjusting the offsets: http://plugcomputer.org/plugforum/index.php?action=printpage;topic=377.0 May 15 21:56:25 check what you edited in the text files for the installer May 15 21:56:43 and you have the correct machtype set? May 15 21:57:10 also did you remember to edit the text file and put your correct MAC in it? May 15 21:57:23 MAC, yes May 15 21:57:41 and i also modified the first line that specifies the root device May 15 21:57:43 that shows you at least read part of the instructions ;) May 15 21:57:52 but there's a second line which contains the offset May 15 21:58:03 that shows you at least read part of the instructions ;) <--??? May 15 21:58:17 Tiibiidii: I modify the boot line at the Uboot command prompt after I flash May 15 21:58:40 mhn, that's not written in the instructions... :/ May 15 21:58:50 well I do it simpler May 15 21:59:00 I boot into the device after I flash May 15 21:59:19 I then mount the external device that I want to put the system on May 15 21:59:45 then I format the external device and make it bootable and copy all the stuff onto it May 15 22:00:08 I then boot the sheevaplug to the Uboot prompt and then change the boot paramters May 15 22:00:13 mhn, so you suggest to avoid flashing all the system on the internal nand? May 15 22:00:29 (i originally thought it was simpler by flashing all on the inside) May 15 22:00:31 well I is useful to see if it is working May 15 22:00:39 will it May 15 22:01:06 the only thing I run on the sheevaplug is uBoot May 15 22:01:16 mhn May 15 22:01:33 I boot kernel and RFS on external harddrive May 15 22:02:41 however... if it's only the offsets that are wrong... do you suggest to try to fix these for the moment... or reinstall everything on an external drive? May 15 22:02:54 in the config file, i left the offset at default May 15 22:03:12 ()mtdparts=orion_nand:0x400000@0x100000(uImage),0x1fb00000@0x500000(rootfs) May 15 22:03:45 but i don't know what value are the right ones May 15 22:05:16 does not look quite correct May 15 22:07:16 Tiibiidii: Have you looked here http://www.plugcomputer.org/plugwiki/index.php/Category:HowTo May 15 22:07:27 yes May 15 22:12:26 trying to find the info by looking at my sheevaplug May 15 22:13:10 ok, thanks again... in the meanwhile i'm looking at my printenv... but i can't quite figure out what could be the right offset May 15 22:14:40 # cat /proc/mtd May 15 22:14:41 dev: size erasesize name May 15 22:14:41 mtd0: 00100000 00020000 "u-boot" May 15 22:14:41 mtd1: 00400000 00020000 "uImage" May 15 22:14:41 mtd2: 1fb00000 00020000 "root" May 15 22:15:09 does that help you? May 15 22:15:19 uhm... May 15 22:15:45 by googling i saw some other tables like that May 15 22:16:11 and in effect it seems strange to me that the installer flashes only two devices May 15 22:16:23 I am nx'ing into my server and I will see if I still have the config files there May 15 22:17:47 Did you notice this "# NAND flash partitions. If using kernel >= 2.6.30 then replace orion_nand with orion_mtd" May 15 22:18:34 yes, but i shouldn't be using a kernel >=2.6.30 May 15 22:18:38 uh May 15 22:18:46 it's referring to the host? May 15 22:18:50 duh-_- May 15 22:19:17 i thought it was talking about the sheevaplug system (i was going to install debian lenny) May 15 22:19:33 no it is referring to the sheevaplug May 15 22:19:38 ah May 15 22:19:55 so there shouldn't be any problem May 15 22:20:03 what has debian lenny go to do with the kernel? May 15 22:20:15 uh? May 15 22:20:22 debian lenny is just a root file system May 15 22:20:26 debian lenny ships with a 2.6.22 kernel afaik May 15 22:20:45 well you can still put a later kernel with it May 15 22:21:21 I run the ubuntu that came with the sheevaplug with a much more recent kernel May 15 22:21:41 is debian lenny compiled for arm5tel? May 15 22:22:04 any back the the nand partitions May 15 22:22:38 lenny ships with 2.6.26 May 15 22:22:44 is debian lenny compiled for arm5tel? <-- should be... i was going to flash debian because i read that karmic requires armv6 and lucid armv7 May 15 22:23:03 and yes, debian officially supports armel May 15 22:23:07 the reason that the config file does not mention a boot partition is cause uboot goes in the beginning May 15 22:23:33 armel != arm5tel May 15 22:23:49 time for a nap May 15 22:23:54 and i tried to use the sheevaplug installer because this thread suggest to use it as a simpler alternative: http://plugcomputer.org/plugforum/index.php?topic=878.0 May 15 22:24:13 armel is arch, arm5tel is specific processor May 15 22:24:15 gee lenny is so far behind it is a joke May 15 22:24:21 time for a nap <-- uh, good night... thanks anyway for the help this far May 15 22:25:00 with ARM you are better off getting a more recent kernel because there have been some very important fixes put in for things like memory contention May 15 22:25:11 gee lenny is so far behind it is a joke <-- yes, but at least i will have a (somewhat) clean upgrade path May 15 22:25:19 mhn May 15 22:25:35 yes but you should be able to run it with a recent kernel May 15 22:25:42 i didn't considered it... maybe i'll go with squeeze insted May 15 22:26:28 just make sure it is compiled for arm5tel, and uses eabi May 15 22:26:42 MoDaX, have you ever used the sheevaplug installer? May 15 22:26:47 need to have to have a nap so I can go out and listen to music tonight May 15 22:26:56 or do you suggest to use one of the older installers? May 15 22:26:59 ciao May 15 22:27:10 ciao May 15 22:27:12 Tiibiidii: use the older installer as it works May 15 22:28:40 uhm... if you're still here May 15 22:28:47 i didn't asked it before May 15 22:28:58 but i still haven't found the old installer May 15 22:29:18 (i've never actually used it before since i preferred to stick with ubuntu) May 15 22:29:33 Tiibiidii: no. personally I'm waiting for guruplug to arrive May 15 22:29:41 uh May 15 22:30:36 but I have access to armv5tel (uname -m) machine running debian lenny. just saying general info... May 15 22:31:06 but probably yeah, you want newer kernel May 15 22:31:13 than 2.6.26 May 15 22:31:21 mhn May 15 22:31:24 ok, thanks May 15 22:31:33 but right now my problem is getting it to boot at all May 15 22:32:19 i guess the old tool is downloadable directly from the plugcomputer.org dowloads... i don't see it referrend in any of the wiki pages May 15 22:33:40 mhn May 15 22:34:00 i was looking into these instructions originally: http://www.cyrius.com/debian/kirkwood/sheevaplug/install.html May 15 22:34:23 but deemed these too long and so i decided for the seemingly easier sheevaplug installer May 15 22:34:31 but maybe now i'll change my mand May 15 22:34:33 mindé May 15 22:34:36 mind* May 15 22:35:13 I think we should all get behind freebsd :P May 15 22:35:56 mhn, some years ago i tried to install it on my old duron... it didn't even recognize my pata hard drive :P May 15 22:36:07 is fbsd available on arm? May 15 22:36:15 yes, second tier tho. May 15 22:36:49 http://www.plugcomputer.org/plugwiki/index.php/FreeBSD_8.0_%28current%29_Plug_Computer_Distribution May 15 22:36:52 I don't see how this puts it in a better position than current mess :) May 15 22:37:22 meh, preference I guess. May 15 22:37:56 uhm.... May 15 22:38:09 i'll give up for tonight May 15 22:38:18 hope to get it working tomorrow May 15 23:00:09 I think I borked my rootfs on my guru server plus, and need to re-image it... Is the correct image for this 'uImage-guruplug'? May 15 23:01:06 the wiki doesn't specify what the 'Rootfs image' is (yet) May 15 23:25:18 ugh May 15 23:25:38 Marvell>> nand write.e 0x6400000 0x500000 2688588 May 15 23:25:38 NAND write: device 0 offset 0x500000, size 0x2688588 May 15 23:25:38 Attempt to write non page aligned data May 15 23:25:38 40404360 bytes written: ERROR May 15 23:30:34 hrm... probably helps if I am not attempting to write the kernel to the rfs May 16 00:07:42 oh excellent May 16 00:07:45 i found the channel May 16 00:08:13 i bought a sheeva esata multiboot ... had a week May 16 00:08:15 i love it May 16 00:08:22 =) May 16 00:08:29 i plan to buy some guruplugs when they come out May 16 00:08:41 or maybe the new sheeva ... sheevadisplay? May 16 00:08:43 I got mine a couple days ago from my pre-order May 16 00:08:50 ah a guru? May 16 00:08:56 nice May 16 00:08:58 yeah, server plus May 16 00:09:04 thats the one i plan to get May 16 00:09:14 im running zoneminder on the sheeva May 16 00:09:20 seriously? May 16 00:09:23 with 3 usb webcams connected to it May 16 00:09:32 I am supprised it can handle that May 16 00:09:35 yeah ! its doing surprisingly well May 16 00:09:56 320x240 @ 2fps motion detect May 16 00:10:14 for each cam May 16 00:10:28 my zm server is a 3800 X2 -- and with just two cams, one IP and one bbtv cam, it uses ~50% of the cpu May 16 00:10:32 ah May 16 00:11:04 yeah, I am running 640x480 7FPS on the IP cam, and 30FPS on the BTTV May 16 00:11:20 ouch !!! 30? May 16 00:11:26 do you really need that many fps May 16 00:11:43 Well, I have it at ~10 while there is no motion May 16 00:12:13 I find if the framerate it too low though, the motion detection misses stuff May 16 00:12:22 im fairly new to zm ... i need to sort out how to avoid alarm state when the sunlight changes quickly May 16 00:12:37 really ? misses stuff? May 16 00:12:51 what are you looking at ? f1 cars wizzing past? ;) May 16 00:13:08 nah, my front door is right at the steps of my apartment May 16 00:13:25 when people come up they can zip by faster than its detectable May 16 00:13:32 its usually okay for actual events May 16 00:14:09 thats got to be one of your settings on the zone May 16 00:14:13 but anything close range, needs a good FPS or it can miss it May 16 00:14:45 its hard to imagine a person being able to run in and out of frame and be missed if youre doing 7 fps May 16 00:14:57 7FPS is okay May 16 00:15:08 its around 5 and less where it misses stuff May 16 00:15:17 the one that is 30FPS is inside May 16 00:15:34 * jzaw nods May 16 00:15:36 so I want to make sure I dont miss a beat if the alarm triggers May 16 00:16:08 mines looking at a large garden May 16 00:16:16 so 2 fps is plenty May 16 00:16:21 *nod* May 16 00:16:35 bloody squrrels keep setting it off though ;) May 16 00:16:41 hehehe May 16 00:17:00 and the fox ... but im happy to see that guy May 16 00:17:13 foxycam :D May 16 00:17:52 now you just need to get of shot of him chasing squirrels May 16 00:17:53 ;) May 16 00:18:10 shame esata isnt self powering May 16 00:18:20 yeah May 16 00:18:26 cos i need an external drive to save the recordings May 16 00:18:30 rather than sd May 16 00:18:32 card May 16 00:18:41 i can connect a usb laptop drive May 16 00:18:48 but its already powering 3 usb cams May 16 00:18:52 hah May 16 00:18:54 via a hub May 16 00:19:24 yeah, you can probably get a small 2.5" external esata enclosure for pretty cheap nowdays May 16 00:19:30 also usb will be slow and contended ... much data from the cams May 16 00:19:51 http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=2.5+esata+enclosure&x=0&y=0 May 16 00:20:00 ive got one for a 3.5" ... and of course the laptop drive ive got fits May 16 00:20:05 but its a bit overkill lol May 16 00:20:40 $18.99 for "OKGEAR" May 16 00:20:45 how do those get powered? May 16 00:20:46 kinda a scary ass name May 16 00:20:54 wall warts usually May 16 00:20:56 is it ok or not ? ;) May 16 00:21:00 or usb May 16 00:21:03 ah May 16 00:21:15 good thing about the sheeva ... the usb port is nonstandard May 16 00:21:25 gives 750mA not the _normal_ 500 May 16 00:21:46 huh May 16 00:21:49 my pc laptop gives 1a and my desktp gives q bit over May 16 00:21:51 didn't realize that May 16 00:21:53 it ajusts to the device. May 16 00:23:41 Is there a trick to getting the rootfs reimaged? May 16 00:23:52 I can't seem to get it via tftp May 16 00:26:28 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Serial_Bus May 16 00:26:28 Standard USB hub ports can provide from the typical 500 mA[2.5 Watts] of current, only 100 mA from non-hub ports. USB 3.0 & USB On-The-Go supply 1800 mA[9.0W] (for dedicated battery charging, 1500 mA[7.5W] Full bandwidth or 900 mA[4.5W] High Bandwidth), while FireWire can in theory supply up to 60 watts of power, although 10 to 20 watts is more typical. May 16 00:28:10 I've seen some horrifying aftermaths of people wiring their firewire case leads to their USB headers... May 16 00:28:20 lol May 16 00:28:42 dont the blanking holes prevent them from doing so (on the header connector i mean) May 16 00:28:57 the guy brought in his computer all pissed off, and we showed him what he did wrong May 16 00:29:12 but it basically set his south bridge on fire May 16 00:29:22 and fried his camcorder May 16 00:29:24 heh May 16 00:29:32 makes ppl very happy to have their errors pointed out to them doesnt it May 16 00:29:48 ouch expensive May 16 00:30:17 not all the mobos have headers with keying... ususally its just straight pins stickng out, same for the USB and firewire cables from the case May 16 00:30:37 they often aren't on a single block -- just indivdually terminated May 16 00:31:05 I felt bad for him.. but at the same time... wow May 16 00:31:06 hahaha May 16 00:32:05 wtf May 16 00:32:19 does the guru have a speaker/tweeter in it? May 16 00:32:41 * jzaw shrugs May 16 00:32:53 huh May 16 00:33:03 theres a data sheet you can pull down May 16 00:33:28 yeah, I'll have too look at it... something just inexplicably beeped at me. May 16 00:33:33 http://www.newit.co.uk/assets/files/GuruPlug-Server-Plus.pdf May 16 00:33:41 either the machine its connected to or it May 16 00:35:28 any hoo must off to bed May 16 00:35:33 good that i found the channel May 16 00:35:41 `night May 16 00:35:43 ill bb tomorrow nn all May 16 00:41:01 gah!! May 16 00:41:04 TFTP error: 'Undefined error code' (0) May 16 00:41:16 Is there a bug in the uboot loader or something? May 16 01:54:51 after many hours -- I have come to the conclusion that atftpd sucks May 16 01:56:07 and now that I can tftp the file... I still cant write out my rootfs May 16 01:56:10 * majost sighs May 16 01:56:21 NAND write: device 0 offset 0x500000, size 0x94248704 May 16 01:56:21 Attempt to write non page aligned data May 16 01:56:22 2485421828 bytes written: ERROR May 16 01:56:43 I wish there was more information than just "ERROR" May 16 02:15:07 ERROR: ur doin it wrong would be better? May 16 02:15:17 :P May 16 02:19:08 heh May 16 02:19:28 Im following the wiki exactly May 16 02:47:21 anyone able to try and help me with this May 16 02:47:39 I am basically bricked May 16 02:47:52 and I think its because I have a bad block May 16 02:48:00 NAND erase: device 0 offset 0x500000, size 0x1fb00000 May 16 02:48:00 Skipping bad block at 0x09740000 May 16 02:48:00 Erasing at 0x1ffe0000 -- 100% complete. May 16 02:48:01 OK May 16 02:53:16 majost: for external cases I would recommend Macally or Vantec May 16 02:53:37 Samba ones are good too, I've had good luck with them May 16 02:53:42 majost: did you just flash ok? May 16 02:54:31 PhotoJim: you do not want luck with enclosures. you want ones that work correctly and have decent electronics May 16 02:54:46 tinker-f595: It's an expression. May 16 02:55:16 I know but a lot of people in the channel do not use English as a first language May 16 02:55:31 tinker-f595: How about this: I own 3 and have never had issues with any of them. One is a backup drive that gets used for heavy I/O nightly and is on 24/7. May 16 02:55:34 That's true. May 16 02:55:40 Point taken. May 16 02:56:00 so what do you connect them to? May 16 02:56:51 None to a Sheeva, although I'm giving strong consideration to moving my Sheeva drive to one. The two that are in full-time use are connected to a Mac Mini and to my server. the other used to be connected to my desktop. May 16 02:57:25 How are they powered? May 16 02:57:49 They have their own power supply. May 16 02:58:14 3.5" enclosures, not 2.5". if you can live with a slightly larger box, they're a better deal since the drives are faster and cheaper. May 16 02:58:39 they come in USB 2.0 and 3.0 as well as Firewire, and there are combo ones (e.g. I have a Firewire/USB 2.0 one). May 16 02:58:44 I think some also have eSATA. May 16 02:58:51 tinker-f595 nope... its not letting me write the flash out May 16 02:59:13 majost: oh that is weird May 16 02:59:40 Marvell>> nand write.e 0x6400000 0x500000 194248704 May 16 02:59:40 May 16 02:59:41 NAND write: device 0 offset 0x500000, size 0x94248704 May 16 02:59:41 Attempt to write non page aligned data May 16 02:59:41 2485421828 bytes written: ERROR May 16 02:59:48 I think the internal flash is not all that good. The good news is that a USB flash is pretty cheap. May 16 02:59:54 the error shows up immediately **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun May 16 02:59:57 2010