**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun May 16 02:59:57 2010
May 16 03:00:08 <tinker-f595> PhotoJim: I have found some very fast 2.5" SATA drives and 2.5 inch use less power
May 16 03:00:39 <PhotoJim> 2.5" do use less power.
May 16 03:00:50 <tinker-f595> PhotoJim: you need to be able to use the internal nand as that is where uBoot resides
May 16 03:00:55 <PhotoJim> I have a 1.5 TB drive on my Sheeva though (backing up a 1 TB drive at a different location).  so 2.5" wasn't an option for me :)
May 16 03:01:03 <PhotoJim> tinker-f595: of course.  but that's all I use mine for.
May 16 03:01:20 <tinker-f595> majost: is this a SheevaPlug you are trying to flash?
May 16 03:02:03 <tinker-f595> and which tool are you using to flash it with?
May 16 03:05:20 <tinker-f595_> PhotoJim: I boot my SheevaPlug kernel and RFS from a 2.5 " drive that I recycled
May 16 03:05:20 <tinker-f595_> weird --- wifi went down for a while
May 16 03:05:47 <majost> tinker-f595 GuruPlug
May 16 03:05:58 <majost> using the bootloader
May 16 03:06:07 <tinker-f595> ah... so I can't tell you to look at the CD that came with it can I.
May 16 03:06:07 <majost> U-Boot 2009.11-rc1-00602-g28a9c08-dirty (Feb 09 2010 - 18:15:21)
May 16 03:06:08 <majost> Marvell-Plug2L
May 16 03:06:16 <majost> nope
May 16 03:06:17 <majost> hehe
May 16 03:06:53 <tinker-f595> majost: they are making the assumption that these are all going to places with network access
May 16 03:06:58 <PhotoJim> tinker-f595: I keep mine at my brother-in-law's to back up my server.  Takes up almost no space so it's perfect.
May 16 03:07:59 <tinker-f595> PhotoJim: and he can't complain about it using 100's of watts of electrcity
May 16 03:08:34 <tinker-f595> majost: some GuruPlug related How To articles here http://www.openplug.org/plugwiki/index.php/Category:HowTo
May 16 03:09:07 <PhotoJim> tinker-f595: exactly.  he's tempted to get one to keep here, for the same purpose.
May 16 03:09:15 <tinker-f595> ha
May 16 03:09:16 <majost> yeah, I have been using the wiki for what information I have
May 16 03:09:22 <majost> just not much to go by
May 16 03:09:34 <majost> and it seems to be wrong, because its not working
May 16 03:09:35 <majost> heh
May 16 03:09:48 <tinker-f595> well they really need to get their act together with support info
May 16 03:10:09 <majost> I *know* some of the info is wrong...
May 16 03:10:49 <majost> it just sucks, because my guru hard locked while doing a dist-upgrade to sqeeze, and then the rootfs was corrupted
May 16 03:11:08 <majost> and I am pretty sure that one bad block is causing all my headaches
May 16 03:11:42 <tinker-f595> majost:  can you boot into the uBoot prompt? I am assuming you have the jtag interface
May 16 03:11:48 <majost> yeah
May 16 03:11:53 <majost> I am in the uboot now
May 16 03:11:53 <tinker-f595> yeah you said that
May 16 03:11:55 <majost> heh
May 16 03:11:58 <majost> =)
May 16 03:12:09 <tinker-f595> hey still sleepy from my nap
May 16 03:12:16 <majost> np
May 16 03:12:26 <tinker-f595> trying to remember the commands
May 16 03:12:38 <majost> any help I can get is very much appreciated. =)
May 16 03:12:53 <majost> I was going by this info: http://www.plugcomputer.org/plugwiki/index.php/Reflashing_images_on_the_GuruPlug
May 16 03:13:05 <majost> Just the rootfs part though
May 16 03:13:55 <majost> I haven't tried reloading uboot or the kernel image
May 16 03:14:38 <tinker-f595> majost: you may have made a typo
May 16 03:15:05 <majost> hrmm
May 16 03:15:17 <majost> I just tried NOT specifying the size of the tftp
May 16 03:15:19 <tinker-f595> I remember last year when I first flashed my sheevaplug I made a typo and put too many 0
May 16 03:15:29 <majost> I hope I dont shoot myself in the foot with this
May 16 03:15:37 <majost> Marvell>> nand write.e 0x6400000 0x500000
May 16 03:15:37 <majost>                                                                                 
May 16 03:15:38 <majost> NAND write: device 0 offset 0x500000, size 0x1fb00000
May 16 03:15:40 <majost> its going
May 16 03:15:43 <majost> I think...
May 16 03:15:44 <tinker-f595> impossible to shoot self in foot
May 16 03:15:44 <majost> heh
May 16 03:15:56 <tinker-f595> you have the jtag so you can always reflash
May 16 03:16:57 <tinker-f595> hmmmm
May 16 03:17:01 <tinker-f595> what is this
May 16 03:17:02 <tinker-f595> Burn the Rootfs image
May 16 03:17:03 <tinker-f595>  tftp 0x6400000 <rootfs image name>
May 16 03:17:03 <tinker-f595>  nand erase 0x500000 0x1fb00000
May 16 03:17:03 <tinker-f595>  nand write.e 0x6400000 0x500000 <number-of-bytes-tftp-ed>
May 16 03:17:14 <tinker-f595> the last line in the instructions?
May 16 03:17:31 <tinker-f595> what is the last bit?
May 16 03:17:37 <majost> I did that part before
May 16 03:17:46 <majost> and thats when it would just barf right away
May 16 03:17:54 <majost> it looks like its actually writing it out
May 16 03:18:05 <majost> I wouldn't be at all suprised if the info is wrong
May 16 03:18:40 <majost> I tried making some corrections on that page earlier, but it seems that its locked for 'users'
May 16 03:19:05 <tinker-f595> oh I think you are supposed to substitute <number-of-bytes-tftp-ed> with the actual file length in bytes
May 16 03:19:36 <majost> yeah... except that doesn't work. heh
May 16 03:19:39 <majost> ;)
May 16 03:20:02 <tinker-f595> unfortunatley Mjain did not leave an email address
May 16 03:20:09 <majost> hah
May 16 03:20:20 <tinker-f595> the page is not locked as I categorized it yesterday or day before
May 16 03:20:29 <tinker-f595> you need to create an account
May 16 03:20:37 <majost> I did
May 16 03:20:55 <majost> lemme try editing it again
May 16 03:21:26 <tinker-f595> I think armin76  knows a lot about these devices
May 16 03:21:43 <tinker-f595> That is if I am remembering correctly
May 16 03:22:04 <tinker-f595> oh and rabeeh definitly does.
May 16 03:22:09 <PhotoJim> he was a massive help to me getting Gentoo running on a Sun Ultra 1... but I think he's into arm also
May 16 03:22:15 <tinker-f595> rabeeh works for Marvell
May 16 03:22:38 <tinker-f595> majost: I suggest you lure those 2 out of hiding
May 16 03:22:48 <majost> awesome! thanks!
May 16 03:22:50 <tinker-f595> majost: which time zone are you in?
May 16 03:22:54 <majost> PST
May 16 03:23:23 <tinker-f595> oh! north or south of San Francisco?
May 16 03:23:31 <majost> Los Angeles
May 16 03:23:39 <majost> South
May 16 03:23:44 <tinker-f595> ah south of the Tahachipis
May 16 03:24:09 <tinker-f595> well that explains your problem ;)
May 16 03:24:13 * majost googles Tahachipis
May 16 03:24:35 <majost> ahh
May 16 03:24:37 <tinker-f595> majost: how could you live in Los Angeles and not know the Tahachipis
May 16 03:25:01 <majost> hah
May 16 03:25:04 <tinker-f595> that is what keeps your unwashed hoards away from us Northerners ;)
May 16 03:25:30 <tinker-f595> enough teasing
May 16 03:25:31 <PhotoJim> hordes? :)
May 16 03:25:42 <PhotoJim> what do you mean by "Northener?"
May 16 03:25:47 <majost> haha
May 16 03:25:47 <PhotoJim> err, Northerner
May 16 03:25:48 <tinker-f595> thank you PhotoJim
May 16 03:26:07 <PhotoJim> "hoards" would be hidden treasures and stuff.  but you might want to wash them too after digging them up... :)
May 16 03:26:49 <tinker-f595> PhotoJim: people that live in California divide it into southern and northern.  The Tahachipis are the dividing line
May 16 03:27:04 <majost> bbiab... gonna go grab a bite to eat while this flashes
May 16 03:27:05 <tinker-f595> PhotoJim: you got the weak pun
May 16 03:27:14 <majost> how longn does the rootfs usually take?
May 16 03:27:37 <PhotoJim> I've been to San Francisco and San Diego... and nought else (other than a drive through Sacramento leaving San Diego)
May 16 03:27:38 <tinker-f595> majost: Rabeeh lives in Israel I think and I think armin76 is in Western Europe
May 16 03:27:44 <PhotoJim> ahh, so northerner as in northern California
May 16 03:27:49 <PhotoJim> that makes me polar I suppose :)
May 16 03:28:09 <tinker-f595> so where are you PhotoJim ?
May 16 03:28:32 <tinker-f595> majost: depends on how big the RFS is?
May 16 03:28:40 <PhotoJim> tinker-f595: Saskatchewan.
May 16 03:29:12 <tinker-f595> a lot of nothing in Saskatchewan....vast praires
May 16 03:29:23 <PhotoJim> err, I drove thorugh Sacramento leaving San Fran, not San Diego.  I used Air Canada to get out of San Diego :)
May 16 03:29:44 <PhotoJim> there's more stuff than you think here, but the southern 1/3 is prairies.  big, open expanses and lots of sky.
May 16 03:29:53 <PhotoJim> the north is lake after lake after lake.  about 100K of them.
May 16 03:29:58 <majost> San Diego is awesome... I grew up there.
May 16 03:30:02 <tinker-f595> oh at least 100k
May 16 03:30:05 <PhotoJim> I liked it.  going back in February.
May 16 03:30:16 <tinker-f595> San Diego is not what it used to be
May 16 03:30:22 <majost> There is a place downtown called Pokez
May 16 03:30:28 <tinker-f595> it lost all its open space
May 16 03:30:29 <PhotoJim> I didn't see it pre-February but it was nice then.
May 16 03:30:33 <majost> they have Vegan and Vegitarian mexican food
May 16 03:30:42 <majost> and its probably the best mexican food in San Diego
May 16 03:30:47 <tinker-f595> majost: rice and beans
May 16 03:30:50 <majost> its reeeeeaally good
May 16 03:30:57 <tinker-f595> can't get more mexican
May 16 03:31:05 <majost> Go there... you can.
May 16 03:31:06 <majost> heh
May 16 03:31:16 <PhotoJim> I'll have to keep that in mind.
May 16 03:31:27 <tinker-f595> best mexcan food I have had in California is Miguel's in Calistoga
May 16 03:31:36 <PhotoJim> We found a great Peruvian place in Clairemont (sp?).  Nazca.  I think they have a restaurant somewhere in L.A., too.
May 16 03:31:43 <tinker-f595> traditional Oaxican food
May 16 03:32:05 <LittleDedPenguin> where is the Globalscale's Ftdi_sio.ko available so that i can access the JTAG of my guru ?
May 16 03:32:25 <tinker-f595> PhotoJim: you have to be really careful with Peruvian food.  A lot of places use really bad quality fats
May 16 03:32:57 <majost> (sp is correct)
May 16 03:33:01 <majost> I haven't been there
May 16 03:33:15 <tinker-f595> LittleDedPenguin: What do you mean Globalscale's Ftdi_sio.ko?
May 16 03:33:43 <PhotoJim> tinker-f595: I wouldn't want to eat it every day... but it was tasty.  Once a year shouldn't be too bad for me :)
May 16 03:33:46 <majost> bbiab... gonna go get some grub for real this time
May 16 03:33:58 <LittleDedPenguin> the one they had for Fedora, i can see the serial (ttyUSB0), but cannot see the jtag
May 16 03:34:04 <tinker-f595> majost: I will probably have gone out by the time you get back
May 16 03:34:17 <majost> np, thanks btw
May 16 03:34:19 <majost> =)
May 16 03:34:27 <tinker-f595> LittleDedPenguin: that is because you have set the parameters incorectly
May 16 03:35:08 <tinker-f595> ftdi drivers are FTDI's
May 16 03:35:32 <tinker-f595> LittleDedPenguin: what are you using for serial console?
May 16 03:35:58 <LittleDedPenguin> globalscale put out one for fedora (they say) the plug has current Ftdi_sio.ko 1.50 and still doesn't see the jtag when i plug the box into the plug
May 16 03:36:29 <LittleDedPenguin> nothing to do with my console, ttyUSB1 doesn't show when i plug the usb cable in
May 16 03:36:46 <tinker-f595> LittleDedPenguin: it has nothing to do with GlobalScale
May 16 03:36:57 <tinker-f595> FTDI is the ftdi dirver owner
May 16 03:37:17 <tinker-f595> http://www.openplug.org/plugwiki/index.php/Category:HowTo and read the serial console HowTo pages
May 16 03:37:54 <tinker-f595> LittleDedPenguin: maybe you aren't pluggintgthe cable all the way in?
May 16 03:38:13 <tinker-f595> well I am going out
May 16 03:40:09 <LittleDedPenguin> i plug the cable into the jtag box, dmesg shows ttyUSB0, does not show ttyUSB1, my attempts at google point it to the Ftdi_sio.ko maybe being a custom job from globalscale, the latest from ftdi didn't see it either ...
May 16 03:40:56 <LittleDedPenguin> globalscale did say there was a Ftdi_sio.ko availble for fedora, but i have not been able to locate it
May 16 03:42:24 <LittleDedPenguin> i realize i'm not running the latest/greatest Ftdi_sio.ko, as i am running debian lenny, but the guru plug is running the latest version available from ftdi, and it doesn't see the second ttyUSB either
May 16 03:43:46 <tinker-f595> jsut grab it from the ftdi web site
May 16 03:43:58 <LittleDedPenguin> not that i need it quite yet, so far the plug (what little i've run it) hasn't given me a problem yet
May 16 03:44:14 <tinker-f595> so I take it you are running fedora on your host?
May 16 03:44:53 <tinker-f595> most linux distros I have come across already have ftdi built into the kernel as it is very widely used
May 16 03:45:01 <tinker-f595> ciao
May 16 04:02:38 <majost> crap
May 16 04:02:47 <majost> its still going...
May 16 04:36:50 <majost> anyone know if the sheeva.with-linux.com kernels are valid for guru?
May 16 05:19:56 <majost> yay
May 16 05:20:08 <majost> I figured out why the damn uboot flash wasnt working
May 16 05:20:47 <majost> now I have a new problem
May 16 05:20:48 <majost> heh
May 16 05:20:50 <majost> of course
May 16 05:20:51 <majost> hah
May 16 05:26:07 <DogBoy> k
May 16 05:28:39 <majost> the docs said to specify the bytes transferred
May 16 05:28:52 <majost> but it should have said the hex bytes
May 16 05:28:56 <majost> heh
May 16 05:28:59 <majost> fixed it in the wiki
May 16 05:29:12 <majost> but now when it boots, it hangs at:
May 16 05:29:19 <majost> Starting kernel ...
May 16 05:29:20 <majost> Uncompressing Linux... done, booting the kernel.
May 16 05:41:15 <majost> ah
May 16 05:41:18 <majost> figured it out
May 16 05:41:31 <majost> er
May 16 05:41:34 <majost> no I didnt
May 16 07:41:21 <dmb> LittleDedPenguin: you figure out your ftdi issues yet?
May 16 07:42:03 <LittleDedPenguin> no, hey, is sda the internal flash?
May 16 07:42:39 <LittleDedPenguin> err, microSD ?
May 16 08:48:28 <jzaw> morning everyone
May 16 08:48:40 <jzaw> does anyone use uvc webcams with mjpg-streamer?
May 16 08:48:57 <jzaw> im trying to find out how to reduce it to mono rather than 24bit colour
May 16 08:49:11 <jzaw> (of course im googling it too ;) )
May 16 09:56:39 <Tiibiidii> uhm, tinker-f595... if you're here... do you know where i can get the old installer? yesterday i thought it would be on the plugcomputer.org downloads section... but now that i look at it i can only find the new one
May 16 09:57:40 <Tiibiidii> or... there's someone here who have used the sheevaplug installer?
May 16 10:05:55 <Tiibiidii> tbm, sorry if i bother you, but i'm searching info on the forum, and saw that you're the author of these pages: http://www.cyrius.com/debian/kirkwood/sheevaplug/ and that you suggest to use the sheevaplug installer
May 16 10:06:24 <Tiibiidii> so, could you please give me a hint of what's going wrong with my installer?
May 16 10:06:40 <Tiibiidii> here's a paste of my latest kernel panic:
May 16 10:06:42 <Tiibiidii> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/214405/http://paste.pocoo.org/show/214405/
May 16 10:06:44 <Tiibiidii> ops
May 16 10:06:45 <Tiibiidii> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/214405/
May 16 10:07:49 <Tiibiidii> originally i tried to install a lenny build i downloaded from the links in this thread:
May 16 10:07:55 <Tiibiidii> http://plugcomputer.org/plugforum/index.php?topic=878.0
May 16 10:08:01 <Tiibiidii> then i tried with squeeze
May 16 10:08:40 <Tiibiidii> then, i tried even with the default ubuntu rootfs.tar.gz shipped with the sheevaplug installer
May 16 10:08:46 <Tiibiidii> but i still get the problem
May 16 10:12:28 <Tiibiidii> to get the sheevaplug installer working i followed the instructions: modified the MAC address in the config file and changed the root in the bootargs to /dev/mtdblock1 (i'm trying to instal directly in the nand)
May 16 10:14:50 <tbm> Tiibiidii: this is a ubifs error (not being able to moun root).  my install pages don't support ubifs
May 16 10:14:55 <tbm> only SD or USB
May 16 10:14:59 <Tiibiidii> uh
May 16 10:15:26 <Tiibiidii> so you suggest to try using the sheevaplug installer to install on sd or usb... not the internal nand?
May 16 10:16:17 <Tiibiidii> ( tbm: i mean, should i follow your install page instructions or try again with the sheevaplug installer?)
May 16 10:16:17 <tbm> well, that's whay my pages describe
May 16 10:16:33 <tbm> if you want to install to internal flash, you need to use different instructions.  I don't know about that, sorry
May 16 10:17:07 <tbm> you have 2 choices:
May 16 10:17:13 <Tiibiidii> mhn
May 16 10:17:14 <tbm>  - install to SD or USB: use my instructions
May 16 10:17:20 <tbm>  - install to internal flash: use those from http://plugcomputer.org/plugforum/index.php?topic=878.0
May 16 10:17:44 <tbm> but I cannot help with the 2nd since I've never tried it
May 16 10:17:50 <Tiibiidii>   - install to internal flash: use those from http://plugcomputer.org/plugforum/index.php?topic=878.0 <-- those don't work for me :/ and i haven't yet found anyone here who used these
May 16 10:17:53 <Tiibiidii> ok
May 16 10:18:04 <tbm> you could post to the forum
May 16 10:18:04 <Tiibiidii> i'll go with the sd install
May 16 10:18:23 <Tiibiidii> do you think a 256MB card will be enough?
May 16 10:19:00 <Tiibiidii> (i saw the images are often less than that... but i don't know the final size i'll get by following your instructions)
May 16 10:21:37 <tbm> no, it's not
May 16 10:21:39 <tbm> I suggest 1 GB
May 16 10:21:56 <tbm> 512 might work but I'm not sure.  I made an install the other day with base+standard and it was ca 570 mb
May 16 10:23:19 <Tiibiidii> uh, thanks tbm, i'll try following your instructions now
May 16 10:23:56 <Tiibiidii> (the internal nand install is unusable right now... but since uboot seems to boot fine i guess it's better to leave it like that)
May 16 10:24:55 <Tiibiidii> uhm.... you suggest to run hwclock -w on the install
May 16 10:25:45 <tbm> you can ignore that now
May 16 10:26:46 <Tiibiidii> i remember to have used ntpdate to fix the time... ah ok
May 16 10:26:54 <Tiibiidii> thanks again
May 16 13:05:46 <Tiibiidii> uhm, the install through the debian installer went fine
May 16 13:06:14 <Tiibiidii> i already tested the ssh connection
May 16 13:06:20 <Tiibiidii> but now i tried to reboot
May 16 13:06:26 <Tiibiidii> and now it's stuck
May 16 13:06:43 <Tiibiidii> it continues to write: "[   68.031199] mvsdio mvsdio: FIFO_EMPTY bit missing"
May 16 13:07:32 <Tiibiidii> i'll try googling it to see if i'll find something
May 16 13:37:21 <Tiibiidii> uhm, it seems that by rebooting all went fine... maybe that's one of the problem that's helped by calling mmcinit twice
May 16 13:59:03 <taillo> hello
May 16 14:00:15 <taillo> I have a question about of guruplug
May 16 14:00:28 <taillo> the JTAG is necessary ?
May 16 14:04:55 <roxfan> if you want to debug the kernel, yes
May 16 14:05:05 <taillo> ok
May 16 14:05:23 <taillo> but if i install a new O/S not need ?
May 16 14:05:32 <roxfan> probably not
May 16 14:05:37 <taillo> thx
May 16 14:05:43 <taillo> sorry for my english
May 16 14:05:46 <taillo> i'm french
May 16 14:05:53 <tbm> I'd say it's needed to install another OS
May 16 14:06:00 <tbm> because the JTAG module also gives you a serial console
May 16 14:06:07 <tbm> and you probably want a serial console to install anotehr OS
May 16 14:06:14 <tbm> but I guess it depends on which OS you want to install
May 16 14:06:24 <taillo> but the guruplug have a mini usb ?
May 16 14:06:43 <tbm> only on the JTAG module afaik
May 16 14:06:56 <taillo> arf
May 16 14:07:12 <taillo> the shell is only available on network
May 16 14:07:14 <taillo> ?
May 16 14:14:07 <Tiibiidii> tbm, first of all: thanks for the help this far... but i've noticed a strage problem:
May 16 14:14:17 <Tiibiidii> here's the output of a sudo aptitude upgrade:
May 16 14:14:32 <Tiibiidii> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/214587/
May 16 14:15:23 <taillo> ok thx tbm i buy JTAG :-
May 16 14:15:24 <taillo> (
May 16 14:15:38 <tbm> taillo: yeah, I think you should
May 16 14:15:47 <tbm> Tiibiidii: that looks bad.  Can you post the full dmesg?
May 16 14:16:45 <Tiibiidii> tbm: here's the output of some "ls -l"... it seems some files are corrupted... among these /usr/bin/expr (but "ls"ing it doesn't show anything): http://paste.pocoo.org/show/214590/
May 16 14:16:51 <Tiibiidii> i'll paste the dmesg
May 16 14:18:12 <Tiibiidii> (uhm... it will take a while... it seems that the file system is somehow mounted ro)
May 16 14:18:37 <Tiibiidii> uh,
May 16 14:19:19 <Tiibiidii> (it's mounted ro because / is errors=remount-ro ...i'll check dmesg for errors)
May 16 14:20:50 <Tiibiidii> dmesg: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/214599/ (unfortunately it's incomplete...)
May 16 14:21:08 <Tiibiidii> i'll try rebooting and calling mmcinit twice... maybe that'll solve it
May 16 14:21:47 <tbm> if not, please email:
May 16 14:21:53 <tbm> to: saeed@marvell.com, nico@fluxnic.net
May 16 14:22:06 <tbm> cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
May 16 14:22:13 <tbm> might be a bug in the mmc driver
May 16 14:22:17 <tbm> or a broken mmc card...
May 16 14:26:24 <Tiibiidii> ok, thank you
May 16 14:26:57 <Tiibiidii> in the meanwhile:
May 16 14:28:50 <Tiibiidii> i had that problem in a ssh connection, it even forbidden me to reboot... i force-rebooted (failing to connect to serial in time for stop the uboot) and connected to serial, there i was able to reboot normally... now i changed the bootcmd_mmc, i'll try rebooting some times to check that all is fine
May 16 14:29:42 <Tiibiidii> (uh, i wrote "reboot" quite a lot... hope that what i wrote was comprehensible...)
May 16 14:34:59 <Tiibiidii> rebooted, and now it has problems again: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/214605/
May 16 14:35:10 <Tiibiidii> this time it doesn't even manage to complete the boot
May 16 14:37:16 <Tiibiidii> tbm, given that the problem seems to happen in different times, on different files, causing different part of the boot process to fail...
May 16 14:37:38 <Tiibiidii> do you think it's more likely that's a broken mmc card rather than a bug in the driver?
May 16 14:37:54 <tbm> could be.  Do you have another one you could try?
May 16 14:38:47 <Tiibiidii> do you suggest to dd the contents of the card on another one or to do a brand new install? (obviously this will take much more time)
May 16 14:39:38 <tbm> new install; if the mmc card is broken, you won't be able to dd the contents
May 16 14:39:49 <tbm> that's another thing you could try tho: put the sd card into another machine and see if it works
May 16 14:40:25 <Tiibiidii> well... the sd card isn't completely broken (if it's broken): i've been able to boot fine and write files on it
May 16 14:40:37 <Tiibiidii> i could dd, md5sum the image, then check again
May 16 14:40:50 <Tiibiidii> but maybe it's more pratical to reinstall from scratch
May 16 14:41:26 <Tiibiidii> for "another machine" do you refer to any linux box, not necessarily another sheevaplug, right?
May 16 14:41:35 <Tiibiidii> however
May 16 14:42:09 <Tiibiidii> now that i think about it... this is a microsd card, through an adapter... maybe it could even be the adapter itself the culript
May 16 14:42:41 <Tiibiidii> i'll try to change adapter/mount the card on another pc and reinstall from scratch (not necessarily in this order :D )
May 16 17:28:59 <Majost> hello
May 16 17:51:34 <Majost> Anyone around with a guru?
May 16 18:14:27 <PhotoJim> I just have a Sheeva... but I'm tempted to get a Guru also
May 16 18:15:45 <Majost> I would suggest waiting until the docs are more complete
May 16 18:15:55 <Majost> heh
May 16 18:16:28 <PhotoJim> heh
May 16 18:16:33 <PhotoJim> not quite well-supported?
May 16 18:16:35 <Majost> and if you do -- make sure you get the jtag
May 16 18:16:58 <Majost> The only docs are those which Tinker has wrote, and I have made a few corrections to
May 16 18:17:25 <PhotoJim> which one doesn't have a JTAG connector?  the "Standard" edition seems to have one also, although I'd be tempted to get the "Plus" to get the eSATA port.
May 16 18:17:40 <Majost> I have the server plus
May 16 18:18:11 <Majost> but the jtag breakout is a usb jtag
May 16 18:18:30 <Majost> I am sure you could probably rig one without it
May 16 18:18:47 <Majost> Im not an EE though, so without that I would have been screwed
May 16 18:18:48 <Majost> heh
May 16 18:18:52 <PhotoJim> heh
May 16 18:19:02 <PhotoJim> as long as I can get a console, I'm happy
May 16 18:20:42 <Majost> *nod*
May 16 18:44:57 <tinker-f595> Majost: What docs dis I supposedly write?
May 16 18:45:08 <PhotoJim> any issue using drives with the larger block size in external enclosures on *plugs?
May 16 18:46:07 <jzaw> does jason (of newit) ever visit this irc?
May 16 18:46:40 <tinker-f595> jzaw: don't think I have seen him here
May 16 18:46:46 <jzaw> shame
May 16 18:46:55 <tinker-f595> jzaw: why?
May 16 18:46:56 <jzaw> i wanted to ask him a q
May 16 18:47:05 <jzaw> ie are the new guru's in yet
May 16 18:47:13 <jzaw> i saw the message on the forum
May 16 18:47:23 <tinker-f595> jzaw: so send him an email or call him at his business address
May 16 18:47:36 <jzaw> aye but i wouldnt do that on a sunday evening
May 16 18:47:47 <jzaw> if he was here casually i would know it wasnt an intrusion
May 16 18:47:52 <tinker-f595> why not? he is running a business
May 16 18:48:04 <jzaw> true but we are all also entitled to some time off
May 16 18:49:24 <tinker-f595> not when you are so out front with your unpaind advertising on a public forum
May 16 18:49:42 <PhotoJim> why does it have to be 24/7 just because it's public?
May 16 18:50:42 <tinker-f595> ah that woke PhotoJim
May 16 18:50:57 <PhotoJim> I posted only 4 minutes ago :)
May 16 18:51:06 <PhotoJim> gotta run errands, bbiab
May 16 18:51:45 <jzaw> i think tinker-f595 is refering to the _unpaid_ part rather than the public part
May 16 18:52:20 <tinker-f595> jzaw:  I think you got it
May 16 18:52:55 <jzaw> ;)
May 16 18:53:25 <jzaw> thats an issue for the moderators tbh
May 16 18:53:37 <tinker-f595> I find it offensive when businesses expect others to pay for the cost of running their business. They externalize costs but internalize the profits.
May 16 18:53:45 <jzaw> personally im not keen on advertising by posters on forums
May 16 18:53:55 <tinker-f595> jzaw: same here
May 16 18:54:19 <jzaw> and if i were to ring on that basis ... his advertising worked ;)
May 16 18:54:32 <jzaw> so ill leave it till tomorrow
May 16 18:55:02 <jzaw> i was just wondering whether my travel date might leave me enough time to order a guru and have it installed
May 16 18:55:23 <tinker-f595> I take it you are in Europe
May 16 18:56:07 <tinker-f595> I gather Globalscale Tech is shipping them out to customers including retailers as fast as they can produce them
May 16 18:56:31 <jzaw> im in the uk
May 16 18:57:00 <jzaw> i got my first sheevaplug the other day
May 16 18:57:04 <jzaw> and its like a tatoo
May 16 18:57:06 <tinker-f595> I ordered mine back in February and am still waiting for it to ship. I will probably call GT tomorrow to see when mine will ship
May 16 18:57:17 <jzaw> once you break the ice and get your first one ... you just cant stop at one!
May 16 18:57:34 <tinker-f595> jzaw: Oh I have had a sheevaplug for over a year
May 16 18:57:55 <jzaw> mines currently booting off sd card
May 16 18:58:12 <tinker-f595> I boot off of a external HDD
May 16 18:58:15 <jzaw> but i need to off load the file storage to small sata drive
May 16 18:58:23 <jzaw> or even install on a small sata
May 16 18:58:31 <jzaw> running zoneminder
May 16 18:58:39 <tinker-f595> why zoneminder?
May 16 18:59:17 <tinker-f595> what are you trying to catch?
May 16 19:00:14 <jzaw> cos i wanted a low wattage thing to drive my webcam
May 16 19:00:22 <jzaw> initially i thought it would handle just 1 cam
May 16 19:00:31 <jzaw> but its doing ok (ish) with 3 !
May 16 19:01:09 <jzaw> why zoneminder ... i was going to install a 4 cam dvr for security
May 16 19:01:29 <jzaw> but everything out there uses activex for network viewing and control .... NO THANKS!
May 16 19:02:31 <jzaw> for the price of 4 analog cams and a dvr ... ill have 8 cams and all running under 20w
May 16 19:09:53 <tinker-f595> jzaw:  activex, puke
May 16 19:11:01 <jzaw> indeed
May 16 19:22:13 <Majost> tinker-f595 have you reflashed your kernel on your guru by any chance?
May 16 19:22:28 <tinker-f595> not recieved my Guruplug yet
May 16 19:22:33 <Majost> ah
May 16 19:22:34 <Majost> bummer
May 16 19:22:41 <tinker-f595> just have sheevaplug and OpenRD Client
May 16 19:23:00 <tinker-f595> need to work on other stuff at the moment
May 16 19:23:24 <Majost> yeah, I figured out what I was doing wrong when I was trying to flash the rootfs
May 16 19:23:32 <Majost> np
May 16 19:27:51 <Majost> gotta run
May 16 19:27:55 <Majost> later
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