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May 18 07:48:49 <flopflip> guruplug server arrived :)
May 18 22:43:09 <ulterior_modem> I got my guruplug today
May 18 22:43:41 <ulterior_modem> Its pretty darn awesome, albeit it runs hot as hell
May 18 22:46:11 <LittleDedPenguin> seems to be a common complaint ...
May 18 22:46:37 <LittleDedPenguin> mine runs warm, but i haven't run into any overheating problems *yet*
May 18 22:46:50 <ulterior_modem> yeah
May 18 22:47:03 <ulterior_modem> my old other complaint is that the default wifi setup is a bit retarded
May 18 22:47:43 <LittleDedPenguin> i haven't even touched the wifi/bluetooth yet
May 18 22:49:03 <LittleDedPenguin> got another toy about the same time, and a couple computers here to work on, so i haven't been playing with the guruplug as much as i would have hoped the first few days
May 18 22:49:03 <themill> the dpkg db on mine was in poor shape when I got it -- an installation had been interrupted and needed to be finished off prior to being able to do anything (poor show). And its sources.list is a bit moronic.
May 18 22:50:07 <LittleDedPenguin> yeah, the 10. addy in the sources.lst is a wtf ...
May 18 22:50:46 <themill> having both "stable" and "lenny" is also a wtf
May 18 22:50:56 <themill> well, having "stable" in there at all is a wtf, actually.
May 18 22:51:02 <LittleDedPenguin> yeah
May 18 22:51:08 <LittleDedPenguin> and the redhat kernel confuses me
May 18 22:51:21 <LittleDedPenguin> with the lenny distro
May 18 22:52:57 <ulterior_modem> blah the install was interrupted on mine too
May 18 22:53:47 <themill> I don't think the globalscale guys know as much about debian as they think they do, given that in pre-sales support I was told it was running lenny with a 2.6.3something kernel (ok, not lenny) and that I'd be able to "aptitude install firefox" (err... no).
May 18 22:54:15 <LittleDedPenguin> i've got a pile of stuff hooked up to mine right now, but i don't have enough power points here to run what i've got hooked up, because of the extra computers i have hooked up here
May 18 22:54:37 <themill> heh
May 18 22:54:57 <LittleDedPenguin> *shrug* I run lenny on this computer, i've kind of grown used to lenny, and that is a messed up lenny
May 18 22:57:28 <um|ARM> its decently fast at least
May 18 22:59:15 <LittleDedPenguin> lemme steal some power cords from these other computers and boot my plug up ...
May 18 22:59:23 * themill suspects um|ARM might want to try creating a user account
May 18 23:04:15 <LittleDedPenguin> but yeah, i've got a bunch of stuff plugged into this to see if i have half the problems i've been reading... a 4 drive esata enclosure, two different routers, two usb hubs, five thumb drives, a memory card reader with three pieces of memory in it, a sandisk mp3 player, a sim card reader, and a 8G microSD card ... booting up now
May 18 23:09:48 <LittleDedPenguin> ok, i may have too much shit plugged in ... takin its time to boot, seems to be having problems with something usb
May 18 23:11:09 <flopflip> hmm did anyone try to overheat his plug? like running it on 100% for a couple of hours?
May 18 23:14:05 <um|ARM> I surely dont want to :P
May 18 23:14:26 <LittleDedPenguin> there have been some posts that sound like the plug overheated unintentionally
May 18 23:14:43 <um|ARM> getting some epic lag on the wifi, might have to see whats going on with that.
May 18 23:15:05 <flopflip> okie, the source.list seems to be fine in germany
May 18 23:16:19 <um|ARM> mine had the local lan address in it.
May 18 23:16:42 <flopflip> ahh crap
May 18 23:16:44 <flopflip> overlooked that
May 18 23:16:48 <flopflip> yeah you are right
May 18 23:16:51 <flopflip> 10.blah
May 18 23:17:09 <LittleDedPenguin> would be good to know what the internet address is for that, it is wifi drivers after all
May 18 23:17:15 <flopflip> and broken install on delivery :(
May 18 23:18:56 <flopflip> gimme 10 mins
May 18 23:18:59 <flopflip> then i got it :=
May 18 23:20:04 <themill> um|ARM: I found that it tended to lose the association with the wireless network reasonably often which can look a lot like lag
May 18 23:24:24 <LittleDedPenguin> has anybody opened up their guru yet? maybe put an external antenna on it?
May 18 23:24:39 <LittleDedPenguin> i don't want to break the seal quite yet
May 18 23:25:06 <LittleDedPenguin> isn't there supposed to be something occupying the internal microSD slot from the factory?
May 18 23:25:53 <LittleDedPenguin> thats been one of my complaints, sealed with a warrenty sticker, but you have to break the seal to utilize the internal microSD slot
May 18 23:34:04 <flopflip> yeah would love a bigger sdcard :/
May 18 23:36:21 <LittleDedPenguin> and the sd card moves, its sdb with nothing else plugged in (assuming internal is sda) but now its sdf with the esata plugged in at boottime
May 18 23:36:44 <flopflip> hmm need sleep, kedars is kedar sovani... it is his repo somewhere, he works at marvell
May 18 23:36:52 <flopflip> if someone else is going to try to find the repo
May 18 23:38:41 <flopflip> i write him a mail and ask :)
May 18 23:46:39 <ulterior_modem> I think that I may get a USB fan for my guruplug
May 18 23:47:03 <ulterior_modem> Its getting warm enough to make that hot-plastic smell and its not too pleasant to touch
May 18 23:48:13 <themill> the usb ports get quite toasty to touch
May 18 23:52:08 <ppmt> are you 110V or 220v?
May 18 23:52:25 <ppmt> good evening by the way :)
May 18 23:54:58 <themill> 220, 230 or 240 depending on who you believe and how you wish to read the spec. (UK)
May 18 23:55:41 <ulterior_modem> me? 110.
May 18 23:55:49 <ppmt> actually in France my father say it is sometime close to 250...
May 18 23:56:24 <ppmt> me I am 110 and the plug is hot but not to the point that it becomes worrying...I can still hold it
May 18 23:59:38 <ppmt> when you say it is hot...are you basing yourself on experience with the sheevaplug?
May 18 23:59:59 <flopflip> mine is warm... smells, but that might be due to being new
May 19 00:00:08 <flopflip> and it hasnt run long yet
May 19 00:00:24 <flopflip> so let it run for 2 - 4 days and i can tell whether it still smells
May 19 00:01:08 <themill> I have no experience with the sheevaplug -- I'm basing "warm" on "I don't want to touch the usb connectors because it's uncomfortable to do so".
May 19 00:01:25 <ppmt> :)
May 19 00:03:57 <LittleDedPenguin> i'd guage the exterior of my guru to be about 115 degrees Fahrenheit, i do not have anything i can use to get an accurate reading
May 19 00:06:33 <ppmt> but is it bad for a computer? my video card on my pc is constantly at 170Fahrenheit
May 19 00:06:43 <ppmt> and my cpu around 120
May 19 00:07:20 <flopflip> well, it depends on the setup, if it has a hotspot inside, it might be a problem
May 19 00:12:50 <LittleDedPenguin> heh, might have to build the metal case for it, to heat sink it, i don't want to put a fan on it, part of the reason for the purchase was to replace a noisy server
May 19 00:14:07 <flopflip> yeah, if you use cad and alloy casing, give me the drawings please :)
May 19 00:16:27 <ppmt> put it on the wiki :)
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