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Jun 03 03:13:46 <Tootoot222> rjb: there are USB -> vga converters
Jun 03 03:14:06 <Tootoot222> and globalscale will be releasing a version of the sheevaplug with a native hdmi output on it
Jun 03 09:58:09 <Xile> hi @ all
Jun 03 13:19:45 <Tootoot222> ping
Jun 03 13:19:56 <jzaw_pl> ping
Jun 03 13:20:00 <jzaw_pl> http://photos.dzki.co.uk/sheeva_phpsysinfo.png
Jun 03 13:20:06 <jzaw_pl> about 1200 bogomips
Jun 03 13:20:17 <jzaw_pl> Tootoot222: ^^^
Jun 03 13:21:24 <Tootoot222> lolol, a 1tb drive and you've used 1gb
Jun 03 13:21:53 <jzaw_pl> aye
Jun 03 13:21:58 <Tootoot222> neat program though
Jun 03 13:22:24 <jzaw_pl> actually its been up to about 5GB but ive purged the stored recordings
Jun 03 13:22:58 <jzaw_pl> note the ipv6 ip ;)
Jun 03 13:25:12 <Tootoot222> yeah, nobody over here seem to take the fact that we'll run out of ipv4 addrs whithin a few years very serously
Jun 03 13:25:29 <Tootoot222> so they only offer ipv4 =(
Jun 03 13:25:29 <jzaw_pl> its not that really
Jun 03 13:25:32 <jzaw_pl> nat is evil
Jun 03 13:25:37 <jzaw_pl> and ipv6 is soooo easy
Jun 03 13:25:45 <Tootoot222> yeah i do like that about ipv6
Jun 03 13:25:46 <jzaw_pl> youve got as many ip's as you care to shake a stick at
Jun 03 13:26:25 <jzaw_pl> most apps are already ipv6 aware
Jun 03 13:26:33 <jzaw_pl> ie i believe mjpg-streamer
Jun 03 13:26:35 <jzaw_pl> et
Jun 03 13:26:37 <jzaw_pl> c
Jun 03 13:27:41 <Tootoot222> yeah, i mean, it's literally changing 1 record's name, and 3 extra lines of code (in C) to add ipv6 support to an app =p
Jun 03 18:59:32 <jzaw_pl> https://wordpress.dzki.co.uk/?p=15
Jun 03 21:43:05 <ukki> question: after a power failure my sheeva blinks ethernet and the two green leds like twice a second, bricked for good?
Jun 03 21:46:03 <ukki> identical to this: http://us.generation-nt.com/wife-wpower-failure-bricked-sheeva-plug-help-197163331.html
Jun 03 21:49:42 <Tootoot222> ukki: power supply is probably fried
Jun 03 21:50:00 <Tootoot222> you can buy a new one and solder the wires that go from the mobo to the old psu to the new psu
Jun 03 21:50:21 <Tootoot222> ukki: were you running an un-powered usb drive on it?
Jun 03 21:50:56 <ukki> yes
Jun 03 21:51:01 <ukki> 2.5 disk
Jun 03 21:51:04 <Tootoot222> yeah, that's a bad idea
Jun 03 21:51:08 <Tootoot222> it breaks the PSU
Jun 03 21:51:15 <ukki> great
Jun 03 21:51:17 <Tootoot222> (i found that out the hard way; maybe you did too)
Jun 03 21:51:47 <Tootoot222> ukki: http://plugcomputer.org/plugforum/index.php?topic=1318.0
Jun 03 21:51:54 <Tootoot222> that's the thread where other people did it too
Jun 03 21:52:04 <Tootoot222> see the pics if you want to compare your psu
Jun 03 21:52:05 <ukki> can i get a medal?
Jun 03 21:52:17 <ukki> wow
Jun 03 21:52:34 <Tootoot222> ukki: this is what i did: http://i42.tinypic.com/2i1jqes.jpg
Jun 03 21:52:48 <Tootoot222> i just bought a 5v 2a wall wart and soldered it on the inside
Jun 03 21:53:28 <ukki> so where does it say "don't plug unpowered usb devices"? :)
Jun 03 21:54:12 <Tootoot222> eh, it doesn't; because it takes more than 30 days of constant running from the drive to actually have it explode like that
Jun 03 21:54:26 <Tootoot222> so by then the warentee is void, and it's a pretty hard problem to detect
Jun 03 21:54:43 <Tootoot222> but ofc, it does make sense; a usb takes a lot of power when it spins up
Jun 03 21:54:47 <Tootoot222> about 5v 1a
Jun 03 21:54:56 <Tootoot222> the sheevaplug's powersupply can only provide that
Jun 03 21:55:11 <Tootoot222> but the sheeva takes about 0,5a for the processor/memory/whatever
Jun 03 21:55:21 <Tootoot222> so you're overtaxing the psu when starting up
Jun 03 21:55:33 <Tootoot222> and if it's already been stressed a lot by running the drive for a long time
Jun 03 21:55:38 <Tootoot222> then it just goes *pop*
Jun 03 21:55:45 <Tootoot222> and shoots that goo everywhere
Jun 03 21:55:55 <ukki> and it dies when it's shutdown+
Jun 03 21:55:56 <ukki> ?
Jun 03 21:56:10 <ukki> it worked fine for few months
Jun 03 21:56:10 <Tootoot222> it's not dead when it shuts down, it's when it tries to come back up that it does
Jun 03 21:56:17 <ukki> ah yes
Jun 03 21:56:24 <ukki> :/
Jun 03 21:56:39 <Tootoot222> the good news is though, that you can get a cheap 3a one now
Jun 03 21:56:46 <Tootoot222> and you can run your unpowered usb on it after that
Jun 03 21:56:53 <Tootoot222> (since you'll have enough apms)
Jun 03 21:57:19 <Tootoot222> it's pretty easy to repair too, if you have a soldering gun
Jun 03 21:58:05 <ukki> does warranty cover it?
Jun 03 21:58:38 <Tootoot222> well, yeah, if it's still valid (only lasts 30 days)
Jun 03 21:58:49 <Tootoot222> but ofc, it takes longer than 30 days to actually wear it down to that point
Jun 03 21:59:19 <ukki> right, it's less than a year old now
Jun 03 21:59:58 <ukki> guess it's going to trash then
Jun 03 22:00:14 <Tootoot222> it's super easy to fix
Jun 03 22:00:27 <Tootoot222> you just have to buy a wall-wart with the right output
Jun 03 22:00:56 <Tootoot222> and you could probably just use electrical tape to hold the wires together, but i prefer to solder it and make sure it lasts
Jun 03 22:04:40 <ukki> too pissed to even think about it
Jun 03 22:04:45 <ukki> but thanks for the info
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