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Jun 24 10:44:19 <Barlow> i'm trying to install debian lenny using the guide of tbm, however the installer warns me that it cannot find a installable kernel (other packages were installed)
Jun 24 10:45:22 <Barlow> what can i do? the apt-repository contains kernels so it should find them
Jun 24 11:15:36 <Barlow> ok, i ignored it and continued the installer. the installer failed making it bootable
Jun 24 11:16:04 <Barlow> now i get bad magic number when trying to boot
Jun 24 11:17:21 <Barlow> oh i'm stupid
Jun 24 11:29:23 <Barlow> hm i'll try to add the kernel manually somehow
Jun 24 12:21:39 <Barlow>  /boot was complete empty, so i put the boot content from http://people.debian.org/~tbm/sheevaplug/lenny/base.tar.bz2
Jun 24 12:21:46 <Barlow> in there
Jun 24 12:22:00 <Barlow> still gives me bad magic number though :/
Jun 24 12:53:43 <Tootoot222> Barlow: you have to burn the kernel into uboot
Jun 24 12:53:50 <Tootoot222> you can't have it on the nand filesystem
Jun 24 12:53:53 <Tootoot222> uboot can't read it there
Jun 24 12:54:57 <Tootoot222> if you put the kernel onto a usb drive
Jun 24 12:55:00 <Tootoot222> name it 'uImage'
Jun 24 12:55:03 <Tootoot222> and run this:
Jun 24 12:55:06 <Tootoot222> usb start; fatload usb 0 0x00800000 uImage; nand erase clean 0x00100000 0x00400000; nand write.e 0x00800000 0x00100000 0x00400000; reset
Jun 24 12:55:28 <Tootoot222> you might have to change the numbers depending your bootcmd
Jun 24 12:55:58 <Tootoot222> (mostly the 0x00100000 0x00400000, location, size)
Jun 24 12:56:10 <Barlow> Tootoot222: ok thanks :) but why does the guide not mention this? is the installer supposed to do this?
Jun 24 12:56:21 <Tootoot222> idk, i've never done the installer
Jun 24 12:56:26 <Tootoot222> i just install from tarbal
Jun 24 12:56:42 <Tootoot222> i'll probably try it when i get my guruplug
Jun 24 12:57:32 <Tootoot222> i doubt it would be able to do it itself though, there are unlimited ways you can customize the boot process
Jun 24 12:57:45 <Tootoot222> it would have no idea where to store the kernel and how to tell uboot to load it
Jun 24 12:58:22 <Tootoot222> (since you could store it in a 'custom' (I.E. non-standard) location, and have a sub-command to load from nand as in multibooting)
Jun 24 12:58:43 <tbm> Barlow: yes, the installer does all of this for you normally
Jun 24 12:58:57 <tbm> Barlow: not sure what went wrong in your case.  can you send the file /var/log/syslog from the installer
Jun 24 12:59:01 <tbm> Barlow: to tbm@cyrius.com
Jun 24 12:59:08 <tbm> Barlow: I'm away now but I'll check in ca 4-5 hours
Jun 24 12:59:31 <Tootoot222> or http://pastebin.com/ and post here, so we can all help ;)
Jun 24 13:00:32 <tbm> also, include the output of
Jun 24 13:00:36 <tbm> grep Hardware /proc/cpuinfo
Jun 24 13:00:39 <tbm> archdetect
Jun 24 13:00:40 <tbm> gone now
Jun 24 13:03:29 <Barlow> tbm: ok cool
Jun 24 13:07:06 <Barlow> ok great, now i have to get ubuntu to boot agani
Jun 24 13:07:33 <Tootoot222> you can install it to a sd card or usb stick
Jun 24 13:07:58 <Tootoot222> just extract the rootfs.tar.gz found in the sheevaplug_installer_v1.0 package onto it
Jun 24 13:08:05 <Barlow> yeah, i installed debian on a usb stick
Jun 24 13:08:22 <Barlow> ubuntu should still be present on the nand
Jun 24 13:08:27 <Tootoot222> ah
Jun 24 13:08:41 <Barlow> but it doesn't boot anymore because i messed with the env settings
Jun 24 13:18:19 <Barlow> haha this is really fun :]
Jun 24 13:18:22 <Barlow> kernel panic
Jun 24 13:40:16 <Barlow> yay it finally boots
Jun 24 13:40:35 <Barlow> i must have unset bootargs
Jun 24 13:48:16 <Barlow> hm on the usb drive i installed debian on there is no syslog
Jun 24 13:48:55 <Barlow> syslog on the nand appears to be full of ubuntu boot messages
Jun 24 13:49:31 <Barlow> ah wait there is a seperate installer dir in the logs dir
Jun 24 13:50:58 <Barlow> wow a LOT of errors
Jun 24 13:57:20 <Barlow> http://pastebin.com/6rFXkXkt
Jun 24 13:57:44 <Barlow> that the syslog from the installer
Jun 24 14:01:01 <Barlow> ok, added /proc/cpuinfo : http://pastebin.com/QrFAeJUc
Jun 24 14:02:50 <Tootoot222> it seems like it failed to find the packages libc6 and libcc1
Jun 24 14:03:05 <Tootoot222> and then everything else failed because those are like the heart of the system
Jun 24 14:04:10 <Tootoot222> oh, well, later on it grabbed them though
Jun 24 14:05:33 <Barlow> yeah, that's a bit strange
Jun 24 14:05:59 <Barlow> maybe i should start over with another mirror
Jun 24 14:09:01 <Barlow> hm one thing is bothering me though
Jun 24 14:09:38 <Tootoot222> what's that?
Jun 24 14:09:46 <Barlow> the guide specifies the following bootcmd:
Jun 24 14:09:50 <Barlow> setenv bootcmd_usb 'usb start; ext2load usb 0:1 0x01100000 /uInitrd; ext2load usb 0:1 0x00800000 /uImage'
Jun 24 14:10:52 <Barlow> however the hardware-info log specifies the usb drive as device 2
Jun 24 14:10:56 <Barlow> http://pastebin.com/kyRa3Jgc
Jun 24 14:11:04 <Tootoot222> how many partitions on it?
Jun 24 14:11:05 <Barlow> (at the bottom)
Jun 24 14:11:22 <Barlow> uhm three: boot, / and swap
Jun 24 14:11:33 <Tootoot222> sda: sda1 sda2 sda3 < sda5 >
Jun 24 14:11:37 <Tootoot222> sda3 being extended
Jun 24 14:11:53 <Tootoot222> so yeah, change 0:1 to 0:2
Jun 24 14:12:02 <Tootoot222> erm
Jun 24 14:12:07 <Tootoot222> no if you have boot on sdea1
Jun 24 14:12:09 <Tootoot222> sda1*
Jun 24 14:12:13 <Tootoot222> then 0:1 is good
Jun 24 14:12:33 <Barlow> but doesn't the 0 specify which usb device?
Jun 24 14:12:37 <Barlow> usb-list: Bus 01 Device 02: DataTraveler G2 [0951:1624]
Jun 24 14:12:43 <Tootoot222> 0 -> sda
Jun 24 14:12:53 <Tootoot222> it's a uboot thing, independant of what the kernel reports
Jun 24 14:13:06 <Barlow> oh okay :)
Jun 24 14:28:20 <Barlow> do i really need swap?
Jun 24 14:28:50 <Barlow> the installer suggests 1,4 GB but that seems really excessive
Jun 24 14:28:53 <Tootoot222> i never use enough memory to use mine, but it's always a nice backup to have just in case
Jun 24 14:29:00 <Tootoot222> you really only need as much as you have RAM
Jun 24 14:29:45 <Barlow> ah ok 500mb seems decent
Jun 24 14:30:05 <Barlow> first time i ended up with 67mb, which is probably kinda useless
Jun 24 14:30:23 <Tootoot222> lol
Jun 24 14:30:35 <Tootoot222> "who could ever use more than 1mb of memory?"
Jun 24 14:32:39 <Barlow> haha, yeah so much memory in a embedded system. it rocks :)
Jun 24 15:00:44 <Barlow> well this looks like the problem i'm having
Jun 24 15:00:47 <Barlow> http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-boot@lists.debian.org/msg109377.html
Jun 24 15:03:16 <Tootoot222> Good idea.  Unfortunately (or furtunately, I guess), I couldn't
Jun 24 15:03:16 <Tootoot222> reproduce it and the installation went fine this time.
Jun 24 15:03:24 <Tootoot222> well, seems like you just have to run until it works lol
Jun 24 15:03:54 <Tootoot222> that was from over a year ago though o_O
Jun 24 15:03:57 <Tootoot222> they still haven't fixed it
Jun 24 15:05:47 <Barlow> figures if noone knows what the problem really is
Jun 24 15:06:02 <Barlow> just my luck
Jun 24 15:06:21 <Barlow> second time gave me exactely the same error
Jun 24 15:07:36 <Tootoot222> hijack the thread lol
Jun 24 15:07:50 <Tootoot222> run with set -x or whatever he said
Jun 24 15:13:10 <Barlow> found another thread
Jun 24 15:13:13 <Barlow> http://plugcomputer.org/plugforum/index.php?topic=822.msg5595#msg5595
Jun 24 15:13:45 <Barlow> if i understand correctly wrong date can cause issues as well
Jun 24 15:14:06 <Barlow> and i didn't run ntpdate yet
Jun 24 15:15:04 <Tootoot222> interesting
Jun 24 15:29:42 <Barlow> well the clock was up2date after all
Jun 24 18:03:48 <tbm> Barlow: so you're trying to install Debian lenny?
Jun 24 18:03:51 <tbm> or Debian squeeze?
Jun 24 18:04:02 <tbm> ok, lenny
Jun 24 18:04:09 <Barlow> tbm: yeah lenny
Jun 24 18:04:32 <Barlow> but i used the daily installer
Jun 24 18:04:39 <tbm> the log says:
Jun 24 18:04:53 <tbm> you cannot use the daily installer for lenny
Jun 24 18:05:01 <tbm> please take the one I link for lenny
Jun 24 18:05:18 <Barlow> yeah that just occurred to me
Jun 24 18:05:40 <Barlow> i used those because you wrote there was a bug in the other ones
Jun 24 18:05:51 <tbm> that's fixed now
Jun 24 18:06:45 <Barlow> ok great :)
Jun 24 18:06:52 <Barlow> i'm running it now
Jun 24 18:10:55 <jzaw_pl> evening peeps
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