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Jul 22 06:12:07 <NginUS> why no candidate found when trying to install iscsitarget-modules on sheevaplug with pre-installed debian?
Jul 22 06:50:04 <NginUS> If I do aptitude install kernel-package, will that allow module-assistant to do it's thing without complaining about missing kernel-headers or will it brick my plug because I messed with the kernel?
Jul 22 06:52:29 <suihkulokki> NginUS: it wont brick
Jul 22 06:53:05 <suihkulokki> but there is no matching kernel-headers preinstalled, module-assistant wont work
Jul 22 06:53:54 <NginUS> suihkulokki : Is kernel-package indeed what provides these kernel-headers the module-assistant needs?
Jul 22 09:19:28 <NginUS> What would happen if i did aptitude install linux-image-2.6.32-5-kirkwood? Would I have to learn how u-boot worked to unbrick my sheeva or would stuff like iotop & iSCSI magincally start workiing?
Jul 22 09:27:02 <solarkennedy> NginUS: debian would stick the kernel on your filesystem, but you need to flash it onto the nand where uboot would be expecting it
Jul 22 09:29:03 <NginUS> solarkennedy : Would that be far enough for it to go (to the filesystem & not to the NAND) in order for module-assistant to be able to not complain about missing kernel-headers when I try to enable iSCSI?
Jul 22 09:29:34 <solarkennedy> probably, but is that kernel the same as what you are using now?
Jul 22 09:29:54 <NginUS> Probably not. uname -a says this:
Jul 22 09:30:18 <NginUS> Linux debie1 2.6.32.7 #5 PREEMPT Wed Feb 10 21:09:39 GMT 2010 armv5tel GNU/Linux
Jul 22 09:30:34 <solarkennedy> well you could try it :)
Jul 22 09:30:51 <solarkennedy> A kernel module might be built, maybe not one you can use
Jul 22 09:32:15 <NginUS> What a PITA. I'm hesitant to do anything to this thing because they're so prone to bricking. I had to send one back to the UK to be reflashed & now I have to wait 3 weeks for it to return. If I kill this one, too- I'm really in deep doo doo
Jul 22 09:32:55 <NginUS> I think I might just persue anothe route- this is killing me
Jul 22 09:51:21 <Md> NginUS: this is why they sell the JTAG board
Jul 22 09:59:44 <solarkennedy> NginUS: apt-get will not be able to brick anything
Jul 22 10:00:20 <solarkennedy> it might cause debian to stop booting, but I wouldn't call it a brick
Jul 22 13:23:47 <NginUS> If u-boot can no longer find both the SD card's pre-installed OS, or the internally installed OS, the device becomes useless to me, so I call that a brick. Apparently not technically a brick, since someone else with greater knowledge can simply tell u-boot where to look. That's beyond me, so I send it back.
Jul 22 15:46:42 <tinker-f595> NginUS: send what back?
Jul 22 15:48:54 <tinker-f595> NginUS: No it is not a brick.
Jul 22 15:49:11 <NginUS> My first SheevaPlug, forum post: http://www.newit.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,504.0.html
Jul 22 15:49:19 <tinker-f595> NginUS: All the information you need is pblished
Jul 22 15:49:58 <tinker-f595> Ngi
Jul 22 15:50:02 <NginUS> Absolute nightmare trying to decipher docs, never again.
Jul 22 15:50:20 <tinker-f595> NginUS: Why are not looking in the correct forum?
Jul 22 15:50:37 <tinker-f595> NginUS: The documenation is very easy to read.
Jul 22 15:51:39 <tinker-f595> NginUS: http://plugcomputer.org/plugforum/index.php?action=forum
Jul 22 15:51:58 <tinker-f595> NginUS: http://plugcomputer.org/plugwiki/index.php?title=Main_Page
Jul 22 15:52:27 <NginUS> That's the forum of where I bought mine from.
Jul 22 15:55:29 <NginUS> When I bought mine, I ordered these SD cards with preinstalled Debian Squeeze, & another with preinstalled Ubuntu 8.04- this in addition to the preinstalled internal Ubuntu on the NAND. I thought with that I'd be safe, then uboot stopped booting anything & I was over my head in an instant.
Jul 22 16:49:01 <tinker-f595> NginUS: So read the documentation
Jul 22 16:54:35 <NginUS> I wasted so much time on bad docs already, it's the last thing I want to toil over. I'll give these you mention a look & hope they'll work for the plug I have from NewIT. Official Debian docs don't seem to match for plugs, eg. module-assistant not knowing how to deal with u-boot. Much larger learning curve than expected. So far w/ the time, it'd have been cheaper to buy a NAS-enabled Drobo from the start.
Jul 22 18:47:56 <solarkennedy> When I consider how much time I had having fun tinkering with my plugs, I think I've saved money compared to how much conventional entertainment would have cost :)
Jul 22 19:14:41 <eFfeM> :-)
Jul 22 19:50:50 <Barlow> :]
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