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Jul 28 16:31:47 <kblin> crap
Jul 28 16:32:00 <kblin> I think my sheevaplug is broken _again_
Jul 28 16:32:09 <kblin> that's twice in less than a year
Jul 28 16:34:13 <Barlow> that sucks. both times trouble with the power supply?
Jul 28 16:43:10 <kblin> well, first time it didn't do a thing, no leds, nothing
Jul 28 16:43:22 <kblin> this time I get the blinking power and ethernet led thing
Jul 28 16:44:15 <kblin> the fist time was within the 30 day warranty, and I was lucky enough to be on a trip to the US in time, but now shipping charges would top the worth of the thing even if I got a free replacement
Jul 28 16:49:47 <Barlow> broken within 30 days o_O
Jul 28 16:50:20 <Barlow> well if you're not going to apply for warranty you could open it up and check the power supply
Jul 28 16:50:48 <kblin> trying, but one of the screws is not cooperating :)
Jul 28 16:50:50 <Barlow> almost all units die of that cause
Jul 28 16:50:55 <kblin> yeah
Jul 28 16:53:23 <kblin> aha
Jul 28 16:54:03 <kblin> all the screws are stuck, the replacement system I got only held together because of the "warranty void if seal broken" stickers
Jul 28 16:54:24 <kblin> guess you won't catch me buying globalscale again
Jul 28 16:55:31 <Barlow> pfff they don't cease to amaze me
Jul 28 16:55:51 <Barlow> too bad there isn't really an alternative
Jul 28 16:57:22 <kblin> I've got two beagleboards running just fine
Jul 28 16:58:46 <Barlow> hm look pretty expensive if you need to buy a case separately
Jul 28 17:07:12 <kblin> more expensive than getting a new sheevaplug about every six months?
Jul 28 17:07:23 <kblin> and yeah, it's the PSU
Jul 28 17:08:23 <Barlow> well newit stated that newly shipped units had an improved psu
Jul 28 17:08:41 <Barlow> so i'll wait and see
Jul 28 17:09:12 <Barlow> but yeah, if they only last 6 months they are a terrible deal
Jul 28 17:09:13 <kblin> ang seeing how my sheeva case is broken, I need to build a new case anyway
Jul 28 17:11:58 <kblin> hmm
Jul 28 17:53:29 <kblin> it's aliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiveeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!1111eleventyone :)
Jul 28 18:25:41 <Caesar> Anyone know if there's any way to read any thermal metrics from a GuruPlug? lm-sensors seems like a no-go
Jul 28 18:43:24 <Md> Caesar: no way
Jul 28 18:54:38 <bkero> lmsensors will freeze the plug when probing
Jul 28 19:03:20 <Caesar> bkero: yeah, I discovered that :-(
Jul 28 19:03:57 <Caesar> Md: no way makes me sad :-( That seems like quite the deficiency
Jul 28 19:04:44 <kblin> if that was the only one I've heard of so far, it would be a dandy piece of hardware
Jul 28 19:06:33 <MostAwesomeDude> Yeah.
Jul 28 19:06:48 <MostAwesomeDude> On the plus side, Marvell doesn't mind sending HW to kernel devs.
Jul 28 19:09:36 <kblin> true
Jul 28 19:10:01 <kblin> I'm pretty sure that with a bit more work, you could turn these things into some nifty hardware
Jul 28 19:16:39 <bkero> If only they got the thermal problems solved.
Jul 28 19:18:23 <MostAwesomeDude> When I talked with the Marvell reps, they acknowledged the heat issues but downplayed it.
Jul 28 19:18:45 * MostAwesomeDude almost said "played it cool"
Jul 28 19:18:55 * bkero almost !fire'd MostAwesomeDude
Jul 28 19:19:30 <bkero> I have some thermal probe graphs I'd like to show them.
Jul 28 19:27:11 <Tootoot222> i emailed them a while ago and they said there was a 'problem' with the first batch of guruplugs, and that they've fixed the issue and extensively tested it
Jul 28 19:27:29 <Tootoot222> and the new ones (I.E. the one they'll be sending to me) will have the 'issue' fixed
Jul 28 20:03:35 <Caesar> Tootoot222: fixed by putting a fan on it, which detracts from the "no moving parts" a bit
Jul 28 20:05:19 <Tootoot222> well most people were rigging homemade fans onto it anyways
Jul 28 20:05:42 <Tootoot222> better they do it and you keep your warentee than doing it yourself and risk breaking it
Jul 28 20:05:52 <Caesar> I'm just a bit surprised that this wasn't an obvious problem at the prototyping stage
Jul 28 20:06:15 <Tootoot222> it's because it only happens on 220v power
Jul 28 20:06:24 <Caesar> Tootoot222: oh really?
Jul 28 20:06:26 <Tootoot222> they probably only tested on 110v
Jul 28 20:06:26 <Tootoot222> yea
Jul 28 20:06:47 <Tootoot222> the massive heat buildup to the point of critical only happened on 220
Jul 28 20:06:54 <Tootoot222> on 110 it gets warm/hot but it doesn't break
Jul 28 20:07:07 <Caesar> Interesting. I'm in 110V land, so that explains why I can't fry an egg on it
Jul 28 20:07:13 <Tootoot222> yup
Jul 28 20:07:20 <Caesar> Good to know
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