**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Feb 05 02:59:57 2011
Feb 05 12:26:51 <intern> hello everybody! how can I reset my guruplug server plus to default settings?
Feb 05 12:27:34 <kerio> what default settings?
Feb 05 12:32:06 <intern> I've tried to change network settings - for static address on eth0. after reboot I cannot see device in network. So  I would like to know how can I reset device to default network settings.
Feb 05 12:36:49 <kerio> oh, that way
Feb 05 12:36:54 <kerio> do you have the jtag interface?
Feb 05 12:37:09 <intern> no
Feb 05 12:37:22 <kerio> lol
Feb 05 12:38:09 <intern> is it unreal to make this without jtag?
Feb 05 12:39:22 <kerio> well you have no way to access your guruplug
Feb 05 12:39:23 <kerio> so...
Feb 05 12:39:26 <kerio> :|
Feb 05 12:39:48 <kerio> yeah, the fact that there's no integrated interface like in the sheevaplug makes the guruplug a bit less cool
Feb 05 12:40:02 <kerio> hmm, how is your uboot configured?
Feb 05 12:40:11 <kerio> does it try to boot from sd first?
Feb 05 12:44:11 <intern> excuse me. I did not question before. english is not my native language. I have JTAG inteface but I have no JTAG module.
Feb 05 13:07:10 <intern> I have got connect to my device. =) My settings is worked - eth1 got addres by dhcp but I can to connect to it only after reboot it with two net cables in slots. Thank you for attention! I think about JTAG module shipping =)
Feb 05 16:47:38 <dmb> any of you use displaylink?
Feb 05 17:54:11 <DaBeast^> Hi
Feb 05 17:54:17 <Tootoot222> hoi
Feb 05 17:54:34 <DaBeast^> i'm looking into buying a plugcomputer
Feb 05 17:54:47 <DaBeast^> mainly because my atom based server is bulky
Feb 05 17:55:12 <Tootoot222> ok
Feb 05 17:55:29 <Tootoot222> http://www.globalscaletechnologies.com/p-41-dreamplug-devkit.aspx
Feb 05 17:55:39 <Tootoot222> is the latest revision of plug from globalscale
Feb 05 17:55:42 <DaBeast^> obviously i'm not going for the guruplug because of its heat problems, that leaves me with pogoplug, sheevaplug and tonidoplug
Feb 05 17:55:58 <Tootoot222> dreamplug is new, has all the guruplug's features but without the issues
Feb 05 17:56:04 <DaBeast^> yes, but the euro version isnt released yet
Feb 05 17:56:19 <Tootoot222> newit says they should have those by the end of march iirc
Feb 05 17:56:42 <Tootoot222> and you can just get an adaptor
Feb 05 17:56:47 <Tootoot222> for us -> eur
Feb 05 17:57:05 <Tootoot222> the powersupply is the same for the us and eu versions, it's just the prongs that are different
Feb 05 17:57:06 <DaBeast^> i mainly want a plugcomputer for downloading torrents, nzb (newsgroups) and rapidshare/megaupload
Feb 05 17:57:23 <DaBeast^> ah, i see
Feb 05 17:58:13 <DaBeast^> also, if any of these plugs would allow some sort of remote desktop (teamviewer would work fine too) it would be great
Feb 05 17:58:30 <Tootoot222> remote desktop, so you can see the plug?
Feb 05 17:58:43 <Tootoot222> i wouldn't run a display on a plug, just use ssh to admin it
Feb 05 17:58:45 <DaBeast^> no, so i would see an actual UI
Feb 05 17:58:53 <DaBeast^> ah
Feb 05 17:59:10 <Tootoot222> it has no graphics unit; it's meant to be all commandline
Feb 05 17:59:39 <DaBeast^> for torrents i would use wtorrent (has a nice web ui), but that leaves me with nzb and rapidshare/megaupload
Feb 05 17:59:44 <DaBeast^> any solutions for that?
Feb 05 18:00:12 <Tootoot222> there are plenty of commandline nzb clients, my friend got one the other day
Feb 05 18:00:16 <Tootoot222> let me see if i can get the name
Feb 05 18:00:27 <DaBeast^> hmm
Feb 05 18:00:35 <Tootoot222> as for rapidshare, idk if you'd be able to do that
Feb 05 18:00:37 <DaBeast^> any of them with a web ui?
Feb 05 18:00:55 <Tootoot222> yea i think it has one
Feb 05 18:01:02 <DaBeast^> ah well, i can do rapidshare on my reg laptop i guess
Feb 05 18:01:07 <DaBeast^> cool
Feb 05 18:03:08 <Tootoot222> DaBeast^: sabnzbd is the one he uses
Feb 05 18:04:04 <DaBeast^> ah yes
Feb 05 18:04:34 <DaBeast^> i had that on windows once, but coulnt get it to work, so i switched back to grabbit
Feb 05 18:05:38 <DaBeast^> well, i dont see major differences between sheevaplug and guruplug/dreamplug
Feb 05 18:06:20 <DaBeast^> i mean, same cpu, same ram (guru has more mhz tough), also guru has 2 instead of 1 gbit port
Feb 05 18:06:32 <DaBeast^> but those are things i actually dont need
Feb 05 18:07:07 <Tootoot222> well the sheevaplug only had a 5v1a powersupply, and was prone to exploding if you ran an unpowered usb drive on it for too long (drew more that 1 amp)
Feb 05 18:07:19 <Tootoot222> so on the guruplug they made it like 5v 5a, but then it overheated
Feb 05 18:07:33 <Tootoot222> so now on the dreamplug the seperated the psu from the board
Feb 05 18:07:37 <Tootoot222> (it's detachable)
Feb 05 18:07:53 <Tootoot222> so you can run it as a true plug, or put it on your desk with a power cord coming from the detached powersupply
Feb 05 18:08:26 <DaBeast^> i see
Feb 05 18:08:34 <Tootoot222> with 2 gigabit ports you can also make your guruplug into a router for your network ;D
Feb 05 18:09:09 <Barlow> DaBeast^: par2 is quite cpu intensive, will be quite slow on a plug i think
Feb 05 18:09:53 <DaBeast^> Barlow: you mean the repairing of nzb downloaded archives?
Feb 05 18:10:06 <Barlow> yes
Feb 05 18:10:11 <DaBeast^> hmmm
Feb 05 18:10:40 <Barlow> but if you're not in a hurry it will be doable i guess
Feb 05 18:10:41 <UnaClocker> I already use my plug as my router, I just have the cable modem plugged into USB ethernet..
Feb 05 18:10:47 <DaBeast^> the main reason i want a plug is, because its so small, noiseless and only 5 watt, i can leave it on day and night
Feb 05 18:11:05 <UnaClocker> Same here.
Feb 05 18:11:57 <DaBeast^> also, i keep wondering what the jtag thing is
Feb 05 18:12:02 <Barlow> also depends on the speed of your connection.
Feb 05 18:12:14 <Tootoot222> DaBeast^: i highly reccomend getting the jtag board
Feb 05 18:12:22 <DaBeast^> what does it do?
Feb 05 18:12:37 <Tootoot222> it lets you interrupt the boot process, so if something goes wrong, like your eth0 not comming on line for some reason, you can recover it easily
Feb 05 18:12:49 <Tootoot222> and it also lets you upgrade the kernel and bootloader easier
Feb 05 18:13:00 <UnaClocker> You know on a PC, when you hit DEL to get into the BIOS? Well without a keyboard/monitor, you need the JTAG to do about the same on the Plug.
Feb 05 18:13:07 <Tootoot222> ^
Feb 05 18:13:15 <DaBeast^> i see
Feb 05 18:13:18 <DaBeast^> interesting
Feb 05 18:13:42 <DaBeast^> what about these? http://www.ionicsplug.com/products.html
Feb 05 18:13:49 <DaBeast^> are they aftermarket sheevaplugs?
Feb 05 18:14:13 <Tootoot222> i've never owned one of those
Feb 05 18:14:23 <UnaClocker> Yes.
Feb 05 18:14:49 <UnaClocker> The SheevaPlug was a "reference design" specifically meant for other companies to clone it.. The PogoPlug is a spinoff too.
Feb 05 18:15:26 <Tootoot222> yeah the whole point of the sheevaplug being a "dev kit" is so you can make one of those types of things
Feb 05 18:15:35 <Tootoot222> the sheevaplug is like a demo
Feb 05 18:15:51 <Tootoot222> (although that doesn't stop anybody from using it for torrenting etc =p)
Feb 05 18:16:06 <DaBeast^> haha :p
Feb 05 18:17:54 <DaBeast^> so what device would be advisable?
Feb 05 18:18:38 <UnaClocker> Wait a bit, see if the DreamPlug works right, and then get that.
Feb 05 18:18:52 <Tootoot222> i would say, if you don't want to pay 50$ extra or wait a month, to get the guruplug standard
Feb 05 18:18:56 <Tootoot222> that didn't have any problems
Feb 05 18:19:04 <Tootoot222> otherwise wait for the dreamplug
Feb 05 18:19:53 <Tootoot222> there are a lot of cool things you can do with a plug as your router (I.E. requiring dual gigabit)
Feb 05 18:19:53 <DaBeast^> k
Feb 05 18:20:18 <Tootoot222> even if you don't intend on making it your router initially, it's a good weekend project that has a lot of rewards
Feb 05 18:20:29 <DaBeast^> oh yes, they where porting dd-wrt to it, right?
Feb 05 18:20:55 <Tootoot222> yea there's a build of that
Feb 05 18:20:56 <DaBeast^> but what if you allready have a router? :p
Feb 05 18:21:04 <kerio> why dd-wrt?
Feb 05 18:21:08 <Tootoot222> i just use a raw linux distro + iptables
Feb 05 18:21:11 <kerio> (or openwrt for all that matters)
Feb 05 18:21:14 <kerio> Tootoot222++
Feb 05 18:21:17 <UnaClocker> My Sheeva is a firewall/router, webserver, torrent client, file server with a 2tb hard drive plugged into it..
Feb 05 18:21:29 <UnaClocker> I use Debian with Shorewall
Feb 05 18:21:50 <Tootoot222> DaBeast^: just disable dhcp on your router, plug both eth into the router (or 1 eth from your modem into the plug, and the other from the plug to the router)0
Feb 05 18:21:52 <DaBeast^> i actually want to use it wireless
Feb 05 18:22:05 <Tootoot222> the router will act as a switch
Feb 05 18:22:12 <UnaClocker> I have a wireless bridge plugged into my switch..
Feb 05 18:22:12 <Tootoot222> with dhcp disabled
Feb 05 18:23:51 <DaBeast^> ok, this is what i realy want to do :p
Feb 05 18:24:23 <DaBeast^> i used backtrack 4 to get some wifi passwords, at the place i'm living i got a download limit
Feb 05 18:24:59 <kerio> ._.
Feb 05 18:25:04 <kerio> and the others don't have one?
Feb 05 18:25:09 <DaBeast^> so, torrents on my living network (note, not home) would be crappy because i only got 50gb download limit that i also have to share with another guy
Feb 05 18:25:20 <Tootoot222> kerio: i assume he's just going to use up one of their limits and move on to the next lol
Feb 05 18:25:36 <Tootoot222> vampire plug
Feb 05 18:25:38 <Tootoot222> =D
Feb 05 18:25:40 <kerio> hehe
Feb 05 18:25:45 <kerio> also lol@download limits
Feb 05 18:26:02 <DaBeast^> nope, 2 of the keys i aquired, have 100mbit unlimited traffic internets
Feb 05 18:26:07 <Tootoot222> =o
Feb 05 18:26:10 <kerio> shweeeet
Feb 05 18:26:14 <DaBeast^> so i will be switching between those 2
Feb 05 18:26:52 <kerio> i have 6gb downloaded/22gb uploaded in this month
Feb 05 18:27:02 <DaBeast^> so yes, vamplug :p
Feb 05 18:27:02 <kerio> last month i had 76gb downloaded and 142 uploaded
Feb 05 18:27:04 <kerio> :3
Feb 05 18:27:10 <Tootoot222> with the guru/dream plug, if you set up them as a router you can use the wlan0 instead of eth0 for your connection to the internet
Feb 05 18:27:21 <Tootoot222> so you can supply your whole house with internet from your neighbours
Feb 05 18:27:21 <kerio> how's the antenna?
Feb 05 18:27:26 <kerio> can you connect another one?
Feb 05 18:27:33 <DaBeast^> haha Tootoot222 :p
Feb 05 18:28:49 <kerio> Tootoot222: can you connect an external antenna to the guruplug?
Feb 05 18:28:53 <DaBeast^> thats nothing kerio, at home where i got 24mbit unlimited traffic, my record was ~450gb download, ~300gb upload
Feb 05 18:29:19 <kerio> DaBeast^: yeah but i only have a 20/1 :<
Feb 05 18:29:45 <Tootoot222> kerio: i don't think so
Feb 05 18:29:57 <DaBeast^> the real speed is only 16mbit tough :p
Feb 05 18:30:00 <kerio> then it won't work :(
Feb 05 18:30:19 <Tootoot222> kerio: you could make yourself a tinfoil umbrella to capture more signal
Feb 05 18:30:29 <DaBeast^> kerio: why not, what if youd use one of those USB ones?
Feb 05 18:30:32 <Tootoot222> but i don't know if you can add on an antanna
Feb 05 18:30:35 <DaBeast^> like the alfa
Feb 05 18:31:11 <DaBeast^> the alfa is great, 1watt antenna, great range
Feb 05 18:31:22 <DaBeast^> and also full support in backtrack, hehe
Feb 05 18:31:50 <kerio> DaBeast^: nice idea
Feb 05 18:33:06 <kerio> 0
Feb 05 18:33:12 <kerio> er, sorry
Feb 05 18:33:22 <DaBeast^> ^_
Feb 05 18:33:36 <DaBeast^> ^_^*
Feb 05 18:34:07 <DaBeast^> too bad they dont sell many plugs on ebay
Feb 05 18:36:44 <UnaClocker> Yeah, NewIT used to sell a bunch on there.. eBay has become VERY hostile towards sellers, I imagine they had a lot of trouble when they sold Guruplugs there..
Feb 05 18:37:06 <kerio> fwiw i can testify for NewIT's willingness to help
Feb 05 18:37:24 <DaBeast^> haha lol, what i also could do is use the plug to pick up the signal, and broadcast it with a password free wireless acces point
Feb 05 18:37:26 <UnaClocker> Yeah, they're far and away the best to buy from.
Feb 05 18:37:33 <kerio> why password free?
Feb 05 18:37:49 <DaBeast^> so everyone has free interwebs? :p
Feb 05 18:37:53 <kerio> UnaClocker: the psu blew up, i sent it back, they sent me a new one (i had to pay for shipping tho)
Feb 05 18:37:58 <kerio> DaBeast^: why do you care?
Feb 05 18:38:03 <kerio> *you* have free interwebs
Feb 05 18:38:09 <DaBeast^> true
Feb 05 18:38:17 <UnaClocker> Yeah, my PSU died a couple months ago.. I just wired in a 5v 2a brick.. heh..
Feb 05 18:38:30 <DaBeast^> i'm a student, living at a studentshouse (sort of)
Feb 05 18:38:44 <kerio> use aircrack-supported usb wifi network card to join network, share connection through internal wifi
Feb 05 18:39:26 <DaBeast^> or i just could keep the awesomeness for myself :D
Feb 05 18:40:03 <Tootoot222> or if you already have a router, just disable dhcp on it and plug your plug in running a dhcp server
Feb 05 18:40:25 <DaBeast^> ill try that out
Feb 05 18:40:26 <Tootoot222> the router will still broadcast it's wireless network, but all the packets go through the guruplug, and thus to your neighbours
Feb 05 18:40:39 <DaBeast^> haha :p
Feb 05 18:40:50 <kerio> DaBeast^: i meant share as in "share to your devices in a wpa2 encrypted, hidden wifi network"
Feb 05 18:41:09 <DaBeast^> i see
Feb 05 18:41:20 <DaBeast^> like only give the awesome people the password
Feb 05 18:41:30 <kerio> no, keep it for yourself
Feb 05 18:41:31 <kerio> it's your lan
Feb 05 18:42:01 <DaBeast^> true true
Feb 05 18:42:22 <DaBeast^> all your wifi's are belong to me
Feb 05 18:42:53 <DaBeast^> does the sheevaplug have wifi?
Feb 05 18:43:02 <UnaClocker> Nope, I use a bridge.
Feb 05 18:43:17 <UnaClocker> The GuruPlug did, but I don't think the DreamPlug does..
Feb 05 18:43:39 * DaBeast^ shits brix
Feb 05 18:43:56 <DaBeast^> damn, there goes my plan, lolz
Feb 05 18:45:13 <kerio> the dreamplug surely does
Feb 05 18:45:15 <kerio> doesn't it
Feb 05 18:45:27 <DaBeast^> wait, whats this http://www.slashgear.com/marvell-plug-computer-3-0-updates-sheevaplug-with-wifi-bluetooth-hdd-0567674/
Feb 05 18:45:30 <kerio> yup, wifi
Feb 05 18:45:32 <DaBeast^> 2.0 ghz?
Feb 05 18:45:46 <UnaClocker> DaBeast^: Vaporware.
Feb 05 18:45:57 <DaBeast^> looks a bit like the dreamplug
Feb 05 18:45:58 <UnaClocker> There have been a good half dozen vaporware plugs..
Feb 05 18:46:22 <UnaClocker> They also had one with HDMI output, that never got produced/shipped.
Feb 05 18:46:44 <DaBeast^> hmm
Feb 05 18:46:56 <DaBeast^> heat problems? xD
Feb 05 18:47:02 <kerio> the latest *plug is the dreamplug
Feb 05 18:47:09 <UnaClocker> I'd bet, especially with a HDD in there.
Feb 05 18:47:11 <kerio> it has all the good stuff
Feb 05 18:47:45 <DaBeast^> yes, but its 150$ excluding shipping to belgium lolz
Feb 05 18:47:59 <UnaClocker> http://www.globalscaletechnologies.com/c-5-dreamplugs.aspx   Yeah, it's got B&G wifi, no N wifi.. My bridge is N..
Feb 05 18:48:07 <kerio> DaBeast^: weirdly enough, newit will probably make it cost less
Feb 05 18:48:17 <kerio> even though it'll cost 150£ probably
Feb 05 18:48:36 <DaBeast^> heh
Feb 05 18:48:59 <DaBeast^> the dreamplug's design reminds me of an atari console somehow
Feb 05 18:49:05 <kerio> overseas shipping for privates or small businesses is awfully expensive :
Feb 05 18:49:06 <kerio> :<
Feb 05 18:49:24 <DaBeast^> yeah
Feb 05 18:49:48 <kerio> UnaClocker: it also has 2 gigabit
Feb 05 18:49:49 <kerio> :)
Feb 05 18:50:10 <UnaClocker> Yeah, I just can't imagine myself ever needing a 2nd gigabit..
Feb 05 18:50:11 <kerio> i welcome the switch to a microsd instead of a nand for the internal storage, btw
Feb 05 18:50:24 <kerio> UnaClocker: interface bounding
Feb 05 18:50:27 <kerio> for epic throughput
Feb 05 18:50:30 <UnaClocker> Yeah, that's awesome.. 32gb internal drive, very cool.
Feb 05 18:50:48 <kerio> meh
Feb 05 18:50:52 <UnaClocker> hehe, yeah, I guess.. If the CPU can move that much data..
Feb 05 18:50:57 <DaBeast^> ah yes, i hope i will be able to host an irc bot on the plug
Feb 05 18:51:06 <kerio> DaBeast^: oh, i don't know about that
Feb 05 18:51:24 <kerio> it could take maybe even 1/10000th of your total bandwidth and cpu time
Feb 05 18:51:30 <kerio> you have to be careful
Feb 05 18:51:34 <DaBeast^> ive seen people hosting irc bouncers
Feb 05 18:51:41 <UnaClocker> heh, you can run an IRC bot on an Arduino.. heh
Feb 05 18:51:55 <kerio> i'm currently connected with znc on my sheevaplug
Feb 05 18:52:00 <DaBeast^> hehe, i own an arduino too :p
Feb 05 18:52:06 <kerio> and i also have a tiny twisted-based irc bot i wrote
Feb 05 18:52:27 <DaBeast^> nice
Feb 05 18:52:46 <DaBeast^> ffuuuu, i want one, like, now :p
Feb 05 18:55:24 <DaBeast^> where could i buy the first gen guruplug (thats the one without heat probs right?)
Feb 05 18:55:32 <kerio> just wait for the dreamplug
Feb 05 18:55:33 <kerio> srsly
Feb 05 18:56:29 <kerio> hmm, will the dreamplug be able to boot from the external sd too?
Feb 05 18:57:15 <kerio> i mean, where's the bootloader?
Feb 05 18:57:46 <DaBeast^> but the extra 50 bucks for functions that ill prob never use, and the wait, is too sucky :p
Feb 05 18:57:55 <kerio> what functions?
Feb 05 18:58:04 <kerio> also it's not extra 50 bucks
Feb 05 18:58:07 <DaBeast^> i mean features
Feb 05 18:58:15 <kerio> unless the guruplug costs less than the sheevaplug
Feb 05 18:58:19 <DaBeast^> like, the sound port
Feb 05 18:58:54 <DaBeast^> no, i meant the dreamplug (that is 150 now, guru/sheeva go for ~100?)
Feb 05 19:00:20 <kerio> the guruplug plus is 130$
Feb 05 19:00:44 <DaBeast^> isnt the plus one the one that has heat probs?
Feb 05 19:00:50 <kerio> haha what, the standard goes for 99$
Feb 05 19:00:53 <kerio> same as the sheevaplug
Feb 05 19:01:12 <kerio> anyway, i like more the sheevaplug's looks
Feb 05 19:02:31 <DaBeast^> anyways, i cant make up my mind :p what should i buy; the sheevaplug, sheevaplug aftermarket clone thingy, guruplug standard (if thats the one without heat probs?)
Feb 05 19:02:51 <kerio> DaBeast^: dreamplug
Feb 05 19:02:59 <DaBeast^> lolwut xD
Feb 05 19:03:03 <kerio> even though it's orange :<
Feb 05 19:03:13 <DaBeast^> it looks like an atari xD
Feb 05 19:03:37 <DaBeast^> whats so better on the dreamplug?
Feb 05 19:03:44 <DaBeast^> cpu and ram are the same?
Feb 05 19:04:08 <kerio> internal storage
Feb 05 19:04:27 <kerio> oh wait the guruplug has that too
Feb 05 19:04:41 <DaBeast^> the sd card thingy?
Feb 05 19:04:48 <kerio> no, wait
Feb 05 19:04:58 <kerio> as far as i know, the guruplug has a NAND
Feb 05 19:05:36 <kerio> the dreamplug only has an internal µSD
Feb 05 19:06:28 <kerio> cool, the guruplug has a U-SNAP connector
Feb 05 19:07:00 <DaBeast^> since the pogoplug is based on the sheevaplug, will everything that runs on the sheeva, run on the pogo?
Feb 05 19:07:09 <kerio> the pogoplug v1 is a sheevaplug
Feb 05 19:07:14 <kerio> the v2 is a bit different, but pretty much yeah
Feb 05 19:07:20 <kerio> the dockstar is another option too
Feb 05 19:07:28 <kerio> it was really really cheap some time ago
Feb 05 19:07:34 <kerio> like 35$
Feb 05 19:07:42 <kerio> and it's a sheevaplug with less ram
Feb 05 19:09:40 <kerio> but you don't have a serial console at that point
Feb 05 19:09:55 <kerio> the sheevaplug has one :3
Feb 05 19:28:12 <DaBeast^> what is the openrd?
Feb 05 20:03:15 <UnaClocker> I've heard you can hack the dockstar to get at it's serial console.
Feb 05 20:03:37 <UnaClocker> But I've also heard it uses such crappy NAND chips that you have to manually navigate around bad sectors.
Feb 05 20:10:33 <kerio> UnaClocker: well, it's meant to be read-only
Feb 05 20:10:47 <UnaClocker> Ahh..
Feb 05 20:12:25 <DaBeast^> what about resoldering to better NAND chips?
Feb 05 20:17:00 <DaBeast^> whats this meant to be? http://www.globalscaletechnologies.com/p-35-openrd-ultimate.aspx
Feb 05 20:24:16 <DaBeast^> ohshi kerio http://www.globalscaletechnologies.com/p-40-guruplug-display-devkit.aspx
Feb 05 20:25:24 <UnaClocker> 7 USB ports.. That means 1 USB port with 2 4 port hubs hooked to it..
Feb 05 20:33:09 <DaBeast^> was talking about the HDMI :p
Feb 05 20:35:59 <Blizz_> hey
Feb 05 21:58:53 <Tootoot222> < UnaClocker> They also had one with HDMI output, that never got produced/shipped.
Feb 05 21:58:57 <Tootoot222> they are shipping those now
Feb 05 21:59:06 <Tootoot222> or, they're going to start shipping at the same time as the dreamplug
Feb 05 22:08:48 <dmb> i'm just going to go for the dreamplug with a displaylink video card
Feb 05 22:08:57 <dmb> hoping they work well
Feb 05 22:09:02 <dmb> (displaylink(
Feb 05 22:09:09 <dmb> got that HP displaylink
Feb 05 22:11:13 <Tootoot222> dmb: why do you want to run a display on your plug?
Feb 05 22:11:35 <dmb> just for fun :P
Feb 05 22:12:32 <Tootoot222> what distro are you going to use?
Feb 05 22:13:02 <dmb> probably the default debian
Feb 05 22:21:44 <dmb> Tootoot222: any idea if they will include debian squeeze?
Feb 05 22:29:35 <Tootoot222> dmb: tbh i didn't even boot the debian that came on my guruplug, i just replaced it because it was so broken
Feb 05 22:29:44 <Tootoot222> hopefully they'll have fixed any issues
Feb 05 22:30:29 <Tootoot222> (although i did back it up incase i needed it later)
Feb 05 23:03:09 <dmb> Tootoot222: are you getting a dreatmplug?
Feb 05 23:07:11 <Tootoot222> dmb: i hope so
Feb 05 23:09:35 <dmb> wonder when they are getting shipped
Feb 05 23:10:27 <DaBeast^> isnt the us version allready shipped,
Feb 05 23:13:52 <Tootoot222> dmb / DaBeast^: the website says early febuary, but knowing globalscale it'll probably towards the end
Feb 05 23:14:03 <Tootoot222> newit got a few sample ones, so they definately exist
Feb 06 00:59:37 <tinker-f595> The DreamPlug uses  Marvell PXA168 (Armada 168)  SOC
Feb 06 01:21:58 <Tootoot222> what was the sheeva/guruplug?
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