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Feb 26 16:09:58 <dmb_> looks like the dreamplugs are finally being shipped
Feb 26 16:10:07 <dmb_> nothing like the abosolute end of feb :)
Feb 26 16:36:00 <Tootoot222> dmb_: at least they held good on their promise this time lol
Feb 26 16:51:17 <kerio> hmm, should i buy one?
Feb 26 16:51:22 <kerio> or maybe should i focus on storage
Feb 26 16:52:57 <Tootoot222> kerio: what plug(s) do you have now?
Feb 26 16:53:32 <kerio> sheevaplug v1
Feb 26 16:54:16 <Tootoot222> hmm, i'd say buy it because it's a good upgrade, but you'll have to buy the jtag board too
Feb 26 16:54:28 <kerio> yeah, that sucks ._.
Feb 26 16:54:35 <kerio> can't i access just the serial port through usb?
Feb 26 16:54:41 <Tootoot222> there is no usb
Feb 26 16:54:46 <Tootoot222> only jtag
Feb 26 16:54:50 <Tootoot222> (and uart)
Feb 26 16:55:16 <kerio> why is that better than openocd?
Feb 26 16:55:25 <Tootoot222> what
Feb 26 16:55:35 <Tootoot222> openocd is the program used to access the chips via those protocols
Feb 26 16:55:55 <kerio> yeah, i mean, openocd through a double serial port
Feb 26 16:56:17 <Tootoot222> the serial console goes through one of them (i think jtag) and openocd uses the other
Feb 26 16:56:31 <kerio> yeah, and why didn't the sheevaplug thing work?
Feb 26 16:56:41 <Tootoot222> what sheevaplug thing?
Feb 26 16:57:00 <Tootoot222> having the mini usb onboard?
Feb 26 16:57:25 <Tootoot222> they might have had troubles trying to fit a jtag board onto the single chip while still adding all the things they did
Feb 26 16:57:40 <Tootoot222> you have to remember it takes up as much space on the sheevaplug board as it does in the jtag module
Feb 26 16:58:27 <Tootoot222> the plugs from globalscale are also ment for you to buy a bunch of them, program them with your software, and send them to clients
Feb 26 16:58:36 <kerio> yeah right ;)
Feb 26 16:58:38 <Tootoot222> if it has a mini usb port on it, the clients can easily take your software off
Feb 26 16:58:56 <Tootoot222> so they put the jtag, which discourages second-end customers from messing with stuff
Feb 26 16:59:09 <kerio> hrmpf :(
Feb 26 16:59:15 <Tootoot222> you'll also only ever need to buy a single jtag board anyway, if you had 100 plugs
Feb 26 16:59:20 <Tootoot222> you could program them all with one board
Feb 26 16:59:32 <kerio> yeah but i need a single serial port for a single plug
Feb 26 16:59:49 <kerio> it's a computer, it doesn't need a programmer ffs
Feb 26 16:59:50 <Tootoot222> like i said, that's not their main target market ;D
Feb 26 17:10:25 <dmb_> the jtag board seems kind of cheap, I all ready broke one of the wires pulling it out of a guruserver plus
Feb 26 17:49:54 <tinker-f595> dmb_:Sounds like improper handling.  You should neverl be pulling on the wires. Pull the connector or plug
Feb 26 17:50:52 <themill> tinker-f595: the guruplug design is such that you can't pull on anything other than the wires to get the connector out. The plug fits into a recess on the box
Feb 26 17:52:11 <tinker-f595> I have a guruplug and know the design
Feb 26 17:52:43 <themill> I'd love to know how you can grip the jtag plug.... even with a pair of tweezers.
Feb 26 17:53:21 <Tootoot222> you can do it with the shell taken off, but idk how you would do it with it on
Feb 26 17:53:29 <tinker-f595> did you use a hammer to push it home :)
Feb 26 17:54:43 <tinker-f595> I wonder if they changed the plugs they use since when I got mine.  I got mine very early on
Feb 26 23:49:46 <dmb_> tinker-f595: i had one of the first also
Feb 26 23:50:03 <dmb_> if I knew the guruplug was going to heat up the way it does, i wouldn't of got it :/
Feb 26 23:50:18 <dmb_> now that I have a dreamplug, have to figure out what to do with guruplug server
Feb 26 23:50:37 <Tootoot222> dmb_: ah, so yours arrived?
Feb 26 23:51:19 <dmb_> no, not yet
Feb 26 23:51:40 <dmb_> according to there site, its shipped (didn't get a tracking number yet)
Feb 26 23:51:46 <Tootoot222> ah
Feb 26 23:51:55 <Tootoot222> probably because it's the weekend
Feb 26 23:56:20 <tinker-f595> dmb_: well if you set one of the eth ports to 100Mb/s it won't get as hot
Feb 26 23:56:59 <dmb_> yes
Feb 27 00:00:55 <tinker-f595> well you need make it dual purpose by putting a round metal plate on top and use it as cup warmer
Feb 27 00:01:26 <tinker-f595> the defect is that they left the cup holder off ;)
Feb 27 00:10:37 <Tootoot222> tinker-f595: lolol
Feb 27 00:29:55 <UnaClocker> You know your coffee is warm when the server crashes.
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