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Oct 27 16:50:10 <viric_> Hej pluggers
Oct 27 16:50:15 <viric_> Anyone running 3.0.x?
Oct 27 16:50:23 * kerio slowly raises his hand
Oct 27 16:50:26 <viric_> hm
Oct 27 16:50:29 <viric_> it hangs here after mounting filesystems
Oct 27 16:50:34 <viric_> even sysreq stops working on the serial line
Oct 27 16:50:34 <kerio> sucks to be you
Oct 27 16:50:44 <viric_> vanilla?
Oct 27 16:50:50 <kerio> with-linux
Oct 27 16:51:00 <viric_> hm eh?
Oct 27 16:51:05 <kerio> http://sheeva.with-linux.com/
Oct 27 16:51:22 <viric_> 3.0 or 3.1?
Oct 27 16:51:29 <kerio> 3.0.3 at the moment
Oct 27 16:51:30 <viric_> (I've only tried 3.0.8)
Oct 27 16:51:55 <viric_> hm I'll steal patches there
Oct 27 16:52:14 <viric_> I did not know this thing
Oct 27 16:55:53 <viric_> I'll check if 2.6.39 boots with the rest of system setup I had...
Oct 27 16:56:31 <viric_> that website has just what I needed, it seems. Very well organized :)
Oct 27 16:58:23 <kerio> there's actually a readme that's also an install script
Oct 27 16:59:50 <viric_> hm I don't see 'udev' there.
Oct 27 17:08:46 <viric_> hm I think I was using too big tmpfs
Oct 27 17:08:51 <viric_> kerio: do you use swap?
Oct 27 17:09:01 <viric_> I see tmpfs without swap often end up in hang
Oct 27 17:11:28 <kerio> viric_: well yeah, i have a 4gb swapfile :D
Oct 27 17:11:37 <kerio> i can afford it
Oct 27 17:12:59 <viric_> ah
Oct 27 17:13:17 <kerio> it's not using it much though
Oct 27 17:13:22 <kerio> it's using 16mbs of ram
Oct 27 17:13:25 <kerio> of swap
Oct 27 17:13:33 <kerio> and there are 22mbs of free ram
Oct 27 17:13:41 <viric_> clear.
Oct 27 17:13:42 <kerio> with like 128mb of buffers
Oct 27 17:13:47 <viric_> I simply think that linux hangs, without swap
Oct 27 17:13:53 <kerio> well that's wrong
Oct 27 17:14:17 <viric_> (combined with tmpfS)
Oct 27 17:14:17 <kerio> the oomkiller will happily kill shit in order to keep it working
Oct 27 17:14:21 <viric_> no no. it fails here.
Oct 27 17:14:31 <viric_> I can reproduce that since 2.6.28, the first where I tried.
Oct 27 17:14:45 <viric_> have no swap.
Oct 27 17:14:53 <kerio> what are you running?
Oct 27 17:14:53 <viric_> Then, put 100MB of data in a tmpfs
Oct 27 17:14:59 <viric_> (2.6.39 now)
Oct 27 17:15:10 <viric_> Then try to start two or three times a program that should be oom-killed.
Oct 27 17:15:14 <kerio> i only have transmission-daemon and nfs
Oct 27 17:15:16 <viric_> at 2nd or 3rd oomk it will hang
Oct 27 17:15:49 <viric_> 4gb of swap, and only running that? you are not pushing linux much ;)
Oct 27 17:16:08 <kerio> i don't *need* anything else
Oct 27 17:16:13 <viric_> ah, lucky you
Oct 27 17:16:15 <kerio> it used to run cups but eventually i said "fuck that"
Oct 27 17:16:19 <kerio> and moved printer sharing to my router
Oct 27 17:16:26 <viric_> I run there far more things.
Oct 27 17:16:40 <viric_> I use it as a normal public server.
Oct 27 17:17:21 <kerio> i have an ec2 instance for that :)
Oct 27 17:18:02 <viric_> ha, you live far too easy :)
Oct 27 17:20:02 <kerio> it's free!
Oct 27 17:20:21 <viric_> ec2?
Oct 27 17:20:38 <kerio> yep, you can get a free micro instance for a year
Oct 27 17:46:16 <viric_> hm I made that 3.0.8 boot... so my hang was related to another thing
Oct 27 17:46:18 <viric_> that I still have to find out
Oct 27 17:50:20 <viric_> kerio: btw, the SD device works fast for me in 3.0.8 vanilla ,without the sdio patches
Oct 27 17:51:35 <kerio> cool story bro
Oct 27 17:52:58 <viric_> ?
Oct 27 17:53:07 <viric_> are you trying to be offensive?
Oct 27 17:53:40 <kerio> nah, it comes naturally
Oct 27 17:53:49 <viric_> ah
Oct 27 17:53:49 <kerio> anyway, i didn't know you needed a special patch for the sd slot to work
Oct 27 17:53:54 <viric_> no?
Oct 27 17:54:01 <kerio> i always used prebuilt kernels :(
Oct 27 17:54:02 <kerio> i suck
Oct 27 17:54:06 <viric_> it's to set the high speed on sdhc cards... you have that on your withlinux
Oct 27 17:55:56 <viric_> well, I also use often prebuilt kernels, but I know how they've been built :)
Oct 27 17:56:03 <viric_> it's just that I let others compile that for me
Oct 27 18:36:37 <Colin_> so has everyone here just avoided the guru plug?
Oct 27 18:37:12 <Colin_> i suspect im going to have to go ahead and order the jtag board
Oct 27 18:51:19 <viric_> ?
Oct 27 18:51:30 <viric_> one friend of mine has one. With a fan though.
Oct 27 19:10:47 <Colin_> the thing is just a bit finnicky
Oct 27 19:16:28 <Colin_> thing just refuses to show up on the network right now
Oct 27 19:20:22 <viric_> ?
Oct 27 19:21:14 <Colin_> yeah, lastnight it was showing up as 192.168.2.9, now when i scan for the thing it just doesnt show up at all
Oct 27 19:23:18 <viric_> can't you get a serial terminal to it?
Oct 27 19:23:35 <Colin_> no jtag board on the guru plug .. no serial
Oct 27 19:23:55 <viric_> guru plug without jtag?
Oct 27 19:24:07 <viric_> hm I'd never buy that :)
Oct 27 19:24:22 <Colin_> yeah .. i realized how dumb that was about 10 mins after i got the thing
Oct 27 19:24:24 <viric_> it's just too hard to never have trouble booting until network access
Oct 27 19:25:08 <viric_> I can't help... when I do major OS changes I often go to the serial
Oct 27 19:25:26 <viric_> I've been two days dealing with it, and it finally worked without me understanding what happened
Oct 27 19:25:43 <Colin_> hah
Oct 27 19:28:30 <Colin_> yeah, i did the suggested updates lastnight and now it wont do anything? $30,? $30  and i could have avoided this nonsense
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