**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu May 05 23:59:56 2005
May 06 00:29:14 <jacques> evening ka6sox
May 06 00:33:21 <ka6sox> hi jacques 
May 06 00:34:57 <ka6sox> wazzup tonight?
May 06 00:38:15 <jacques> not a lot, perusing newegg's site
May 06 00:38:29 <jacques> thinking about ordering some asus toys
May 06 00:39:23 <ka6sox> ah...I was thinking about flashing the latest stuff into Wiley
May 06 00:40:08 <ka6sox> which asus toys are you preferring?
May 06 00:40:31 <jacques> WL-500G DLX and maybe a Wl-HDD2.5
May 06 00:41:16 <ka6sox> I need to look very hard at my Wlhdd2.5 and see if I can add 32MB of ram.
May 06 00:41:43 <jacques> if that were possible I would probably buy two of those :-)
May 06 00:42:20 <ka6sox> I can look at that in the AM.
May 06 00:42:39 <ka6sox> there is hopefully all the lines attached :)
May 06 00:43:17 <jacques> yeah that would be nice
May 06 00:43:29 <jacques> we might not even need a custom bootloader :-)
May 06 00:43:41 <ka6sox> that would be good too.
May 06 00:46:00 <ka6sox> I think we have determined that the slug is indeed working at 133mhz...wish I knew why.
May 06 00:47:14 <ka6sox> must be an undocumented "feature
May 06 00:47:17 <ka6sox> "
May 06 00:49:12 <jacques> really? last I saw I thought we had determined only the memory bus was running at 133MHz
May 06 00:49:28 <jacques> I recall being a bit disappointed - wanted double speed slug
May 06 00:49:29 <ka6sox> how do we determine what the core freq is?
May 06 00:49:46 <ka6sox> (it should be 266mhz)
May 06 00:49:48 <jacques> jbowler had a good wiki page on it
May 06 00:50:35 <ka6sox> I'm now thuroughly convinced that to have a "fat" slug we need 2X32M16 chips.
May 06 00:50:53 <ka6sox> or 2X16M16 Chips.
May 06 00:52:41 <jacques> hmm for some reason searching on jbowler on the wiki does not find the page
May 06 00:53:36 <jacques> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/OpenSlug/TheSlugSpeedProblem
May 06 00:53:40 <jacques> have you seen that?
May 06 01:01:09 <ka6sox> I remember that somewhat...
May 06 01:01:42 <ka6sox> I seriously doubt that the corefreq is 133mhz
May 06 01:02:00 <jacques> yeah, me too
May 06 01:02:35 <jacques> I guess there's no way a scope could be used to settle this?
May 06 01:02:52 <jacques> could probably get the ram bus speed
May 06 01:03:02 <jacques> which is almost certainly 133MHz
May 06 01:03:08 <ka6sox> that is 133mhz...measured
May 06 01:03:13 <jacques> but wouldn't tell us anything about the core
May 06 01:03:20 <jacques> measured? nice
May 06 01:06:41 <ka6sox> I need to read up on the mipsel in the Wiley units.
May 06 01:10:27 <ka6sox> jacques, did you read up on the problems with the WL500g dlx?
May 06 01:11:58 <jacques> ka6sox I thought all problems were solved by the new bootloader - did I miss something? which problems?
May 06 01:12:43 <ka6sox> oh..they fixed the bootloader...that was the problem I was reading about from jeanfabrice.
May 06 01:13:54 <jacques> are there more problems?
May 06 01:14:21 <ka6sox> I should look in the chupa forum to see what the latest is.
May 06 01:14:59 <jacques> yeah I read it last night
May 06 01:16:32 <ka6sox> iirc the benchmarks were a little better for the Wiley than for the Slug.
May 06 01:17:39 <jacques> apparently neither ASUS can touch the slug in disk performance tho ?
May 06 01:33:14 <ka6sox> I suspect that the USB2 drivers are pretty good.
May 06 01:39:59 <rwhitby-away> slug is 4.8MB/sec httpd stream from USB, Wiley is 1.6MB/sec
May 06 01:40:30 <ka6sox> ah.
May 06 01:41:00 <rwhitby-away> 7.something MB/sec raw on slug vs 4.8MB/sec raw USB disk I/O on Wiley 500gdlx
May 06 01:41:15 <rwhitby-away> apparently the wl-hdd is even worse, even though it has IDE
May 06 01:41:23 <jacques> I have seen slug get > 8MB/s on openslug
May 06 01:41:28 <ka6sox> probably a bad driver.
May 06 01:41:33 <jacques> rwhitby-away, yeah that's a shame about the wl-hdd
May 06 02:34:05 <dyoung> a 133Mhz IXP42x doesnt exist.
May 06 05:11:20 <NAiL> Anyone getting MySQL  to build? Openslug-packages fails for me :(
May 06 05:11:37 <NAiL> It doesn't like missing threads 
May 06 05:44:41 <VoodooZ_Work> NAiL: a very late PONG
May 06 05:51:24 <NAiL> VoodooZ_Work: Ah, yes. It seems the linuxrc issue is fixed now ;)
May 06 05:52:11 <VoodooZ_Work> Cool. I'm pulling as we speak.
May 06 05:52:57 <VoodooZ_Work> Is there a new kernel too?
May 06 05:52:58 <NAiL> g2's build seems to work. I haven't tested mine yet.
May 06 05:53:12 <NAiL> 2.6.11.2, dunno what the old one was
May 06 05:53:39 <VoodooZ_Work> I just saw a 2.6.11.8.bb file in my pull ???
May 06 05:55:27 <NAiL> packages/linux/openslug-kernel_2.6.11.2.bb: 2 deltas
May 06 05:55:32 <NAiL>  <--  just pulled
May 06 05:55:53 <NAiL> ah... nslu2-kernel .8
May 06 05:56:01 <VoodooZ_Work> ok, I'm building...
May 06 05:56:02 <dyoung> Its not the default.
May 06 05:56:18 <VoodooZ_Work> that's cool. I was just curious
May 06 05:56:30 <VoodooZ_Work> what's the motivation behind that one?
May 06 06:23:42 <[g2]> jb is testing some stuff on 11.8
May 06 06:23:53 <[g2]> guys fyi http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/MountNFSSwapPartition
May 06 06:24:15 <NAiL> ty :)
May 06 07:41:14 <NAiL> Is there an uClibc openslug ipkg repo anywhere?
May 06 07:43:15 <[g2]> not right now
May 06 07:43:27 <[g2]> but you can bb openslug-package
May 06 07:43:40 <[g2]> and generate a bunch of stuff
May 06 07:44:10 <NAiL> I have. Uploading a bunch now. Building samba right now.
May 06 07:46:19 <NAiL> Dumping it all in http://slug.repvik.info/openslug/uclibc/ if anyone wants it ;)
May 06 08:02:06 <NAiL> Um.. Is there a way I can make the changes to packages/samba/samba.inc permanent? Samba does not build with smbmount, but every time I pull my change gets overwritten.
May 06 08:05:52 <[g2]> are you bk editing that file ?
May 06 08:05:58 <NAiL> hmm.. no
May 06 08:06:08 * NAiL isn't familiar with bk
May 06 08:06:29 <[g2]> well it's kinda late to learn it :)
May 06 08:06:38 <NAiL> heh
May 06 08:06:40 <NAiL> yeah
May 06 08:07:28 <gerdi__> hi [g2] ;)
May 06 08:07:37 <[g2]> gerdi__, HEY !
May 06 08:08:09 <[g2]> gerdi__, I'm curious about new faces :)  Welcome
May 06 08:08:23 <[g2]> are you an OpenSlug user ?
May 06 08:09:02 <gerdi__> i will be .. if the compile goes throught
May 06 08:09:13 <[g2]> you just pulled ?
May 06 08:09:32 <[g2]> were you waiting for the fix to start using it ?
May 06 08:10:07 <gerdi__> no i had some problems ... and fey time
May 06 08:10:40 <[g2]> free ?
May 06 08:11:28 <gerdi__> whats free :P beer - lool    -   sorry i am german 
May 06 08:12:13 <[g2]> np we've got a worldly group here
May 06 08:12:13 <gerdi__> im also working on the openwrt and tuxbox project ...
May 06 08:12:20 <gerdi__> :))
May 06 08:12:30 <[g2]> how long have you been working on openwrt ?
May 06 08:12:38 <[g2]> and do you have a url for tuxbox ?
May 06 08:13:09 <gerdi__> only a bit ... tuxbox is on cvs .. google for it 
May 06 08:13:31 <[g2]> I was a user of openwrt back in the days 
May 06 08:13:59 <[g2]> that was part of the training program for nslu2-linux :)
May 06 08:14:10 <gerdi__> ahh ok .. nice
May 06 08:14:44 <[g2]> NAiL, are you still playing with openwrt ?
May 06 08:15:24 <gerdi__> a bit ... nice system
May 06 08:15:58 <gerdi__> in the moment Im playing with avr-mikrocontroller
May 06 08:16:07 <[g2]> excellent
May 06 08:16:08 <NAiL> [g2]: Yeah, but only on my fathers GS
May 06 08:16:28 <[g2]> NAiL, we go back a long time on openwrt
May 06 08:16:45 <[g2]> gotta be close to 15+ months
May 06 08:16:47 <NAiL> [g2]: Trying to work out a way to get my NetGear DG834G up and running with somethingg like openwrt too ;)
May 06 08:16:55 <NAiL> It's been a while, yes :)
May 06 08:17:03 <[g2]> funny you should mention that
May 06 08:17:16 <[g2]> gerdi__, a spin off project is OpenJTAG
May 06 08:18:03 <[g2]> and I was a page that has all the networking devices many with internal pics and whether they have JTAG etc...
May 06 08:18:04 <gerdi__> for the wrt54g(s) there is an jtag-software - I had 2 use it -UPS
May 06 08:18:33 <[g2]> there were a bunch of netgear devices that are arm based
May 06 08:19:03 <[g2]> I figure they'll be great devices for JTAG'ing at $20 a pop from ebay 
May 06 08:19:06 <[g2]> or on close-out
May 06 08:19:39 <NAiL> The DG834G has JTAG, and runs binaries rfom the orig wrt firmware
May 06 08:19:45 <[g2]> gerdi__, we were looking for that very early on....  I'm guessing nobody's really gotten around to redoing the bootloader
May 06 08:20:20 <NAiL> But, without JTAG I'm not flashing brand-new-custom-firmware on it. There's no boot_wait on it.
May 06 08:20:31 <NAiL> (as far as I can see)
May 06 08:20:42 <gerdi__> hairydairymaid_debrickv22.zip   <- open soft/hard  
May 06 08:21:16 <gerdi__> I tryed to fix the boot_wait default .. but no time to test it
May 06 08:21:34 <gerdi__> ok .. i must go .. cu later
May 06 08:21:38 <[g2]> tc
May 06 08:21:49 <NAiL> auf wiedersehen
May 06 08:22:59 <NAiL> Getting my DG up with custom firmware would be brilliant. Then I wouldn't need both a DSL-modem *and* the WRT :)
May 06 08:23:52 * NAiL needs to get JTAG-enabled.
May 06 08:29:51 <NAiL> Is there anywhere in the wiki I can add my feed?
May 06 08:39:56 <NAiL> odd... Added bash, and now I cannot login anymore
May 06 08:40:16 <[g2]> yeah and I know why
May 06 08:40:29 <NAiL> Do tell me :)
May 06 08:40:48 <[g2]> iirc the symlink for sh got toasted
May 06 08:41:08 <[g2]> so you don't have access to the shell
May 06 08:41:13 <NAiL> It still links to busybox
May 06 08:41:13 <[g2]> hence no login
May 06 08:42:08 <NAiL> adding /bin/bash *and* /bin/sh to /etc/shells worked though 
May 06 08:44:25 <NAiL> whee... now I have a colored prompt :P
May 06 08:45:00 <[g2]> NAiL, were you running of a flashstick ?
May 06 08:45:26 <[g2]> or did you have a previous login
May 06 08:46:01 <NAiL> Had a previous login. I've been burnt by stuff like that before, so I opened a new term to see if I could login before logging out from the first one ;)
May 06 08:46:14 <[g2]> good move
May 06 08:47:08 <[g2]> Oh... I mounted with a custom switchbox and went in and tweaked what I needed last time
May 06 08:47:13 <NAiL> I will be running off a flashstick later, when I get the internal usb-hub soldered on. But until then, I only have the internal flash to play with.
May 06 08:47:16 <[g2]> same thing loading bash
May 06 08:47:47 <[g2]> NAiL, can you make a note about that on the Wiki ?
May 06 08:48:02 <[g2]> or send out mail to the ml ?
May 06 08:48:52 <NAiL> Dunno where to put it in wiki, so I'll send it to the ml sto begin with ;)
May 06 08:49:03 <NAiL> My line is dog slow today, so the wiki is a pita.
May 06 08:49:28 <[g2]> nod. ml is fine thx
May 06 08:51:20 <NAiL> But I didn't have to fudge the sh symlink tho
May 06 11:00:03 <VoodooZ_Work> [g2], rwhitby-away, NAiL: I forgot to mention that the latest pull did fix my kernel panic issue. Thanks.
May 06 11:00:56 <[g2]> VoodooZ_Work, you've got a local/amd64 issue
May 06 11:01:19 <[g2]> I built from scratch last night and I've been running then and today without a hitch
May 06 11:03:45 <VoodooZ_Work> Nope. I stopped using that box. I'm back on the Xeon
May 06 11:04:03 <VoodooZ_Work> rwhitby-away made some changes to linuxrc.
May 06 11:04:06 <NAiL> [g2]: I think it was the linuxrc/initfs-problems that caused the panic
May 06 11:04:22 <NAiL> [g2]: And that was fixed sometime after midnight GMT ;)
May 06 11:04:22 <VoodooZ_Work> yeah, probably
May 06 11:04:27 <NAiL> (iirc)
May 06 11:05:01 * VoodooZ_Work wishes he had a 400Mhz xscale now.
May 06 11:05:22 * [g2] has a 533
May 06 11:05:32 <VoodooZ_Work> Then again, if the memory bus is the same it would be the same bottleneck.
May 06 11:05:37 <VoodooZ_Work> Lucky bastard!
May 06 11:05:48 <VoodooZ_Work> Is the memory bus running at 133 still?
May 06 11:05:48 <[g2]> I'm waiting the 465's
May 06 11:05:55 <[g2]> nod on the memory bus
May 06 11:06:08 <VoodooZ_Work> So my vision stuff would still be limited there right?>
May 06 11:06:14 <[g2]> but the 465 and probably the 460 have DDR @ 266
May 06 11:06:17 <VoodooZ_Work> Unless there's bigger caches?
May 06 11:06:21 <VoodooZ_Work> nice
May 06 11:06:37 <VoodooZ_Work> How much is the cheapest board?
May 06 11:06:47 <NAiL> [g2]: ntp 4.1.2 runs just fine. Only thing I need now is to change the timezone
May 06 11:06:51 <[g2]> 465's aren't out yet
May 06 11:07:07 <[g2]> VoodooZ_Work, you should do your vision off-board on a miniPCI card
May 06 11:07:22 <VoodooZ_Work> mini-PCI card?
May 06 11:07:25 <VoodooZ_Work> tell me more.
May 06 11:07:44 <VoodooZ_Work> You mean using an FPGA?
May 06 11:07:46 <[g2]> then you could it's a standard small form-factor for PCI 
May 06 11:08:01 <VoodooZ_Work> yeah, but my robot are fairly small.
May 06 11:08:20 <VoodooZ_Work> I'm not familiar with this standard. Do you have any URLs?
May 06 11:08:27 <[g2]> The RV042 board is maybe 2x the length
May 06 11:08:42 <VoodooZ_Work> What company is that? I'll look it up
May 06 11:09:08 <VoodooZ_Work> Or is that another linksys product?
May 06 11:09:14 <[g2]> here a totally generic link to a card http://www.bixnet.com/wiiemica.html
May 06 11:09:14 <VoodooZ_Work> (that would be cheaper for me)
May 06 11:09:34 <[g2]> with and FPGA and vision stuff on there you could do a couple things
May 06 11:09:39 <VoodooZ_Work> nice.
May 06 11:09:44 <[g2]> one run like the wind
May 06 11:10:04 <VoodooZ_Work> I know a guy that does most of the pre-processing on FPGA but It's a bit too advanced for me yet.
May 06 11:10:09 <[g2]> to have something that could move to other platforms
May 06 11:10:21 <[g2]> s/to/two
May 06 11:10:47 <VoodooZ_Work> What's RV042 running at?
May 06 11:10:57 <[g2]> it's got a 425 @ 266
May 06 11:10:59 <VoodooZ_Work> Next board I buy, I want CAN or H/W I2C.
May 06 11:11:06 <VoodooZ_Work> 266 or 133? :)
May 06 11:11:29 <[g2]> but there's appears to be a do-not-install on a mini-pci header
May 06 11:11:57 <[g2]> actually you do the I2C in the FPGA too
May 06 11:12:05 <ka6sox-office> can a 266mhz thing really feed a mini-pci?
May 06 11:12:11 <VoodooZ_Work> yeah, but that's getting complicated.
May 06 11:12:39 <VoodooZ_Work> Perhaps I should get a 400mhz gumstix when it can do USB host. 
May 06 11:12:44 <[g2]> ka6sox-office, I ran gigabit on a 266 IXP422 board at 20MBs+ speed
May 06 11:13:27 <[g2]> and Soon today maybe I'll run a big ass swap partition on that link
May 06 11:15:17 <NAiL> [g2]: ntpd runs just fine. Now I'll just have to wait a day or two to see if it dies.
May 06 11:15:25 <NAiL> *61.206.115.3.us clock.nc.fukuok <-- "fukuok"?
May 06 11:15:43 <VoodooZ_Work> hehehe nice hostname!
May 06 11:17:50 <[g2]> NAiL, we were seeing drift and negative time adjustments
May 06 11:18:18 <[g2]> jbowler thought there might still be a negative time adjustment bug in there
May 06 11:18:28 <[g2]> he thought it should be pretty easy to track down
May 06 11:21:05 <NAiL> hmm... [cc]smart said something about the most trustworthy server getting an asterisk.. The server closest to me does *not* get an asterisk ;)
May 06 11:26:08 <NAiL> [g2]: Did you get a drift file btw? I get code 0 now, so it should have written the file, but I can't find it
May 06 11:26:42 <[g2]> NAiL, you define it in /etc/ntp.conf
May 06 11:26:58 <[g2]> driftfile /etc/npt.driver 
May 06 11:26:58 <NAiL> *duh*
May 06 11:27:36 <NAiL> tnx
May 06 12:39:49 <[cc]smart> NAiL: closest is not necessarily best choice.
May 06 12:40:22 <[cc]smart> criteria is more strartum and stability over time
May 06 12:40:48 <[cc]smart> the less jitter the more trustworthy, that is it should tick very constant
May 06 12:44:42 <[cc]smart> more startum... should say lower figue for stratum ,as stratum being logic distance to absolute time
May 06 13:03:42 <NAiL> [cc]smart: Yeah, kinda figured that out
May 06 13:04:19 <NAiL> Still doesn't write a drift file though. I guess I can live without that for while.
May 06 13:05:19 <[g2]> beewoolie-akf's in the house!
May 06 13:05:30 <beewoolie-akf> dudes
May 06 13:10:27 <[cc]smart> Nail: ntpd needs write and create files for the directory the drift file is in, not just write access to the configured drift file
May 06 13:10:32 <[cc]smart> that might be a reason
May 06 13:13:42 <NAiL> hmm.. I'll have to check on that later. It's time for me to start studying for that exam I'm having on monday...
May 06 16:31:56 <dyoung-web> [g2] regarding that talk about ntp and clocks and stuff.
May 06 16:32:04 <dyoung-web> the X1205 doesnt totally suck.
May 06 16:32:23 <[g2]> dyoung-web, cool
May 06 16:32:35 <[g2]> dyoung-web, what's the status ?
May 06 16:32:39 <dyoung-web> the "drift" is something that is from linux.
May 06 16:33:05 <dyoung-web> I have a feeling that those 4000 interrupts/sec are making the linux time go funny.
May 06 16:33:23 <[g2]> they reduced those to 2K in the R29 sw
May 06 16:33:33 <dyoung-web> one of the R29 hacks was to reduce that to 2000i/s; I wonder if we should apply it to openslug and see what happens
May 06 16:33:44 <[g2]> along with hobbling the usb
May 06 16:34:09 <dyoung-web> That one can be twiddled dynamically btw.  you can cat the value in /sys.
May 06 16:34:16 <dyoung-web> (the usb one)
May 06 16:34:46 <[g2]> are you sure ?  I was talking about the # sectors thingy
May 06 16:34:55 <dyoung-web> oh that part.
May 06 16:35:05 <dyoung-web> I thought you meant the module parameter
May 06 16:35:20 <dyoung-web> the # sectors thingee I think is not required.
May 06 16:35:28 <[g2]> also, I'm wondering if we need the IXP4xx timer at all since we're running off interrupts
May 06 16:35:47 <dyoung-web> because AFAIK the Genesys works the way its supposed to in 2.6.7 and higher.
May 06 16:36:17 <dyoung-web> I think we need the ixp4xx timer for other stuff.
May 06 16:36:26 <[g2]> well it would be worth while to spend an hour and try those fixes and see of the irq_26 nobody cared goes away
May 06 16:36:27 <dyoung-web> like the PCI clocks.
May 06 16:37:04 <[g2]> I think the PCI is driven off GPIO 15 ?
May 06 16:37:06 <[g2]> 14 ?
May 06 16:37:24 <dyoung-web> yeah, in fact I'm sure the Genesys works.  the fix we applied in openslug was pilfered from the mainline kernel of a later version.
May 06 16:37:26 <[g2]> tman has a nice site and write-up
May 06 16:37:43 <dyoung-web> s/openslug/unslung
May 06 16:38:18 <[g2]> ok.... so you're saying the RTC works pretty well
May 06 16:38:38 <[g2]> we could just read the time when every we do a sync right ?
May 06 16:38:53 <dyoung-web> the RTC Hardware works fine.
May 06 16:39:03 <[g2]> obviously we'll want to turn off the debugging messages
May 06 16:39:12 <dyoung-web> Right.
May 06 16:39:20 <dyoung-web> right onw its in the same state it was in 3 months ago.
May 06 16:39:29 <dyoung-web> or whenever I pushed that changeset
May 06 16:39:48 <dyoung-web> I need to finish this other thing first, so I probably wont be able to look at x1205 until next week at the earliest
May 06 16:40:12 <NAiL> jstueve: This is a bit more openslug-oriented ;)
May 06 16:40:13 <[g2]> thx for the heads up
May 06 16:40:20 <jstueve> riiight.. thanks...
May 06 16:40:27 <jstueve> ugh.. my build failed... 
May 06 16:40:33 <jstueve> and I was getting so excited..
May 06 16:40:39 <NAiL> at flex?
May 06 16:40:42 <jstueve> yeah.
May 06 16:40:59 <[g2]> when did you last pull and which version of flex was it building
May 06 16:41:01 <dyoung-web> anyways, the right way to handle it is once NTP works, resync the RTC to Linux time at shutdown.
May 06 16:41:02 <NAiL> yeah, never got around to fixing that earlier today. The source tarball is gone from the mirrorr
May 06 16:41:10 <dyoung-web> Unless you trust your RTC more than NTP.
May 06 16:41:38 <NAiL> [g2]: I think it's trying 2.5.31 (or something), but there's only 2.5.4a available (Taken from memory, I might be wrong)
May 06 16:41:41 <jstueve> according to the error.. it is package flex-native-2.5.31-r2
May 06 16:41:41 <dyoung-web> then when you start it back up it again, it will get time from the RTC and be (probably) more correct than if it wasnt set.
May 06 16:42:06 <NAiL> [g2]: Did a pull earlier today.
May 06 16:42:39 <[g2]> this is why I want to SVN the OpenSlug tree
May 06 16:42:58 <NAiL> This reminds me of the oh-so-funny openwrt days ;)
May 06 16:43:01 <[g2]> I'd say 90% of the users don't care about the delta on a daily basis
May 06 16:43:13 <dyoung-web> so svn a snapshot every now and then?
May 06 16:43:29 <dyoung-web> and for hardcore hacker types like [g2] use the bk tree ?
May 06 16:43:42 <[g2]> yeah, full update every couple weeks, month or when something major is fixed
May 06 16:43:48 <dyoung-web> Good Plan.
May 06 16:43:53 <jstueve> so.. anything I can do? 
May 06 16:43:53 <NAiL> It'd be a good idea. It'd make "support" easier
May 06 16:44:11 <[g2]> I pulled yesterday and the last time before that was probably a month
May 06 16:44:26 <dyoung-web> what would we store?  surely not oe metadata.
May 06 16:44:46 <[g2]> yes exactly the oe data less SCCS
May 06 16:45:15 <dyoung-web> Interesting concept.
May 06 16:45:33 <[g2]> do you know that with that oe data you can build the entire flashable image (assuming you have the dl's) on a knoppix livecd
May 06 16:45:47 <dyoung-web> sorta like oe and oe-devel I guess eh.
May 06 16:45:50 <[g2]> there's one tiny program missing for CPIO 
May 06 16:46:00 <NAiL> jstueve: Yes, there is. But right now I can't remember the filenames and paths you need to fix ;)
May 06 16:46:19 <jstueve> lol... I need to go grab some grub... so I'll check back later.?
May 06 16:46:43 <NAiL> jstueve: Sure. I'll be relocating myself to other side of town, so I can check stuff up ;)
May 06 16:47:27 <jstueve> meanwhile... I'll practice... 
May 06 16:47:30 <dyoung-web> food sound slike a good plan.  Back later.
May 06 16:47:34 <jstueve> 10 bb openslug-image
May 06 16:47:37 <jstueve> 20 goto 10
May 06 16:47:56 <NAiL> jstueve: You can build the openslug-packages first ;)
May 06 16:48:05 <jstueve_grub> oh?
May 06 16:48:09 <NAiL> hm.. no, that won't work either
May 06 16:48:16 <NAiL> You'll need flex for those as well, I think.
May 06 16:48:23 <dyoung-web> jstueve: why not just do while 1; bb openslug-image openslug-packages; ?
May 06 16:48:52 <jstueve_grub> you can always tell who is the c programmers...
May 06 16:48:57 <NAiL> heheh
May 06 16:49:06 <jstueve_grub> I"m retro.:D
May 06 16:49:06 <dyoung-web> or, while 1 (bk pull; bb openslug-image openslug-packages)
May 06 16:49:25 <dyoung-web> then when someone fixes something you'll get it and be sure to be up to date.
May 06 16:49:26 <jstueve_grub> and optimizers... must be in embedded systems...
May 06 16:49:59 <NAiL> jstueve_grub: btw, you might wanna join me in the adventures of building openslug using uclibc ;)
May 06 16:52:50 * NAiL starts walking to the other side of town. I'll be back in an hour or so, probably ;)
May 06 16:55:47 <[g2]> Ok is there a simple way to get tar to follow symlinks ?
May 06 16:56:37 <[g2]> AHHH.... -h
May 06 16:58:34 <[g2]> DOH!
May 06 16:59:58 <[g2]> ooooohh aaaahhhh
May 06 17:02:31 <[g2]> yummmy.... squishy....
May 06 17:03:32 <jstueve_grub> so that woiked?
May 06 17:03:44 <[g2]> worked ?
May 06 17:03:50 <jstueve_grub> the -h?  
May 06 17:04:10 <[g2]> tar -h -X exfile -cvf openslug-metadata.tar nslu2-package-symlinks 
May 06 17:04:24 <jstueve_grub> NAiL uclibc sounds like an adventure...  (back to grubbing)
May 06 17:04:25 <[g2]> cat exfile
May 06 17:04:25 <[g2]> SCCS
May 06 17:04:25 <[g2]> BitKeeper
May 06 17:04:25 <[g2]> tmp
May 06 17:04:43 <[g2]> the real key is the tmp 
May 06 17:04:59 <jstueve_grub> since that holds all the results from a build?
May 06 17:05:00 <[g2]> cause there are symlinks pointing to the work files
May 06 17:05:14 <[g2]> yes
May 06 17:05:19 <[g2]> a bunch of stuff
May 06 17:05:45 <jstueve_grub> so by doing this you can have the symlinked directory on another partition, or disk... 
May 06 17:05:49 <[g2]> so my list which supports openslug/unslung and many packages nearly 500 is 68MB
May 06 17:05:51 <jstueve_grub> outside of the flash?
May 06 17:05:56 <[g2]> that bzip2's to 10MB
May 06 17:06:44 <[g2]> that plus BB and a knoppix disk a little program needed for cpio and boom... Downtown baby
May 06 17:06:48 <jstueve_grub> or to share some common elements between openslug/unslung
May 06 17:07:02 <[g2]> we share tons of stuff
May 06 17:07:26 <jstueve_grub> *bing* lasagna is done...
May 06 17:07:30 <jstueve_grub> bbiab
May 06 17:08:04 <[g2]> anyone running GIT ?
May 06 17:09:10 <[g2]> I say we GIT that tree
May 06 17:09:15 <[g2]> and manage that
May 06 17:12:04 <[g2]> beewoolie, ping
May 06 17:12:11 <beewoolie> [g2]: helo
May 06 17:12:27 <[g2]> are you using git at all ?
May 06 17:12:32 <beewoolie> You're talking git?
May 06 17:12:40 <beewoolie> You must like the 1.0 fever.
May 06 17:12:59 <beewoolie> Don't know it...yet, I suspect.
May 06 17:13:08 <beewoolie> It'll probably be required in a few months.
May 06 17:13:13 <beewoolie> ...for kernel patches.
May 06 17:13:23 <[g2]> I don't, but I did read about it and it looked butt simple
May 06 17:14:28 <beewoolie> I also don't have vast extra HD space at the moment.
May 06 17:14:39 <[g2]> you simply compare two sha1 lists
May 06 17:14:58 <[g2]> all the files in a given set get rolled up
May 06 17:15:17 <beewoolie> I'm for it if it's faster than BK which I found to be slow in some of the simplest cases.
May 06 17:15:32 <[g2]> it's supposed to be like lightening
May 06 17:15:43 * beewoolie likes lightning
May 06 17:17:01 <[g2]> it does deltas between two snapshots very well but doesn't track changes at all
May 06 17:17:14 <[g2]> so change history is out the window
May 06 17:17:25 <beewoolie> Not really a big deal to me.
May 06 17:17:44 <beewoolie> The main use for history is CVSDATE snapshots.
May 06 17:17:50 <[g2]> I think it's important for history
May 06 17:18:12 <beewoolie> History can be managed with a sequence of snapshots.
May 06 17:18:29 <beewoolie> Essentially, that's what all SCM's do.
May 06 17:18:39 <[g2]> which is what git can do, but you've got to delta all the snapshots to build the history
May 06 17:18:42 <dyoung-web> whoa, weird, I'm eating lasagne too
May 06 17:18:50 <[g2]> 42
May 06 17:19:12 * beewoolie burps lasagne flavor
May 06 17:19:24 <[g2]> I had pizza tonight does that count ?
May 06 17:22:08 <[g2]> wow.... A knoppix cd, A cd with all the sources, and a 10MB bzips metadata tarball, bb and you you've got it all
May 06 17:23:06 <dyoung-web> plus some extra space for the downloads
May 06 17:24:25 <[g2]> CD with all the dls
May 06 17:24:42 <[g2]> I've got all the source and it's only 500MB
May 06 17:25:02 <[g2]> its actually many multiple versions of the source
May 06 17:25:18 <[g2]> the current stuff is probably only 350
May 06 17:25:41 <[g2]> I think you could fit it on 1 CD with fluxbox
May 06 17:26:01 <[g2]> but that doesn't include the packages
May 06 17:54:12 <NAiL> duh
May 06 17:54:32 <NAiL> the second I come back to answer jstueve, he disconnects :(
May 06 17:54:45 <NAiL> ah
May 06 17:55:25 <NAiL> jstueve: Add this to your local.conf TARGET_OS_local="linux-uclibc"
May 06 17:55:42 <NAiL> and possibly: SELECTED_OPTIMIZATION = "-Os"
May 06 17:56:07 <NAiL> When building that, I ended up with a grand total of 3700kb free flash space :)
May 06 17:57:45 <jstueve> just at the bottom...
May 06 17:58:42 <jstueve> of the file?
May 06 17:59:00 <jstueve> do I need to install anyother packages?
May 06 17:59:44 <NAiL> bottom, yes. Nothing more you need to do than to start a fresh build
May 06 18:00:09 <jstueve> does the local need to be lc? or uc? in TARGET_OS_local
May 06 18:01:05 <NAiL> huh? /me looks confused
May 06 18:01:44 <NAiL> either "linux" or "linux-uclibc"
May 06 18:01:57 <jstueve> the rest of the variables use all UPERCASE but you have miXeD CaSe
May 06 18:02:27 <jstueve> TARGET_OS_local 0r TARGET_OS_LOCAL or does it even matter?
May 06 18:02:37 <NAiL> ah, yes. For reasons unknown to me, it is mixed case. It probably matters, yes
May 06 18:03:07 <jstueve> flaky shift key no doubt...
May 06 18:03:41 <jstueve> then just bb openslug-image?
May 06 18:05:17 <NAiL> rm build/tmp first
May 06 18:05:21 <NAiL> then bb openslug-image
May 06 18:05:37 <jstueve> whoops... 
May 06 18:05:46 <jstueve> ctrl-c stops the bb?
May 06 18:05:51 <NAiL> yeah
May 06 18:06:08 <jstueve> rm -rf?
May 06 18:07:57 <NAiL> yeah
May 06 18:08:56 <jstueve> good cuz I already did it.. :D
May 06 18:09:15 <NAiL> hehe
May 06 18:10:03 <jstueve> failed.. flex native again...
May 06 18:10:14 <NAiL> ah, yes... that problem
May 06 18:10:28 <jstueve> cha. 
May 06 18:12:30 <jstueve> should I start deleting files?
May 06 18:12:31 <jstueve> :)
May 06 18:12:39 <NAiL> nah
May 06 18:16:04 <NAiL> jstueve: Simple solution.. wget htp://slug.repvik.info/flex-2.5.31.tar.bz2 and htp://slug.repvik.info/flex-2.5.31.tar.bz2.md5 and put in the sources folder
May 06 18:16:11 <NAiL> s/htp/http/
May 06 18:19:09 <jstueve> okay.. gottern and rebuilding
May 06 18:19:30 <dyoung-web> or if you dont trust NAiL; re-md5sum it yourself.
May 06 18:19:42 <dyoung-web> :-)
May 06 18:19:45 <NAiL> dyoung-web: Eh... very useful :P
May 06 18:20:08 <jstueve> heh... 
May 06 18:20:44 <dyoung-web> np. :-)
May 06 18:20:49 <NAiL> I had plenty of time with my l33t coding skills to insert a backdoor into flex
May 06 18:20:59 <NAiL> (of all packages)
May 06 18:21:24 <jstueve> hakorz
May 06 18:21:37 <dyoung-web> Nah, you gotta find a better one that runs suid.
May 06 18:21:41 <dyoung-web> like top used to.
May 06 18:22:13 <NAiL> dyoung-web: It's funnier to add a backdoor to gcc, so that it adds some "special" code to login ;)
May 06 18:22:35 <NAiL> (and of course, itself if recompiled)
May 06 18:31:15 <NAiL> hmm... syslogd is supposed to log to /var/log/messages, right?
May 06 18:31:49 <NAiL> Doesn't seem to do that on my slug :(
May 06 18:31:53 <jstueve> flex compiled
May 06 18:32:14 <NAiL> I know ;)
May 06 18:35:20 * jstueve wonders if her just gave NAiL access to his slug... if the firmware ever gets activated...
May 06 18:35:21 <jstueve> ;)
May 06 18:36:18 <NAiL> heh, not only do you give me access to your slug, but you also give me access to the box you're compiling on! MUHAHAHAH :P
May 06 18:37:08 <jstueve> scheet.. you ruleZ
May 06 18:42:58 <jstueve> scrolling scrolling scrolling.. 
May 06 18:44:36 <jstueve> hmmm...
May 06 18:44:57 <jstueve> x86_64 doesn't seem like it would be needed...
May 06 18:45:45 <jstueve> okay.. package glibc-2.3.2_cvs20040726-r17
May 06 18:45:58 <jstueve> function do_configure failed
May 06 18:46:12 <jstueve> failing the build.. 
May 06 18:46:16 <jstueve> durn.
May 06 18:46:19 <NAiL> Hmm... what's the relevant info in the log file?
May 06 18:46:29 <NAiL> And why is it building glibc anyways?
May 06 18:46:46 <jstueve> I dunno...
May 06 18:46:58 <jstueve> do patch and then do configure...
May 06 18:47:07 * NAiL just became openslug alpha/beta-tester #30. Better late then nevern ;)
May 06 18:47:27 <NAiL> There's a logfile... It says something about if before dying
May 06 18:47:43 <NAiL> It's even kind enough to give you the full path ;)
May 06 18:48:08 <jstueve> 2 sysdeps/ieee754/dbl-64 sysdeps/ieee754 sysdeps/generic/elf sysdeps/generic
May 06 18:48:08 <jstueve> checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
May 06 18:48:08 <jstueve> checking whether ln -s works... yes
May 06 18:48:08 <jstueve> checking for armeb-linux-gcc... ccache armeb-linux-gcc
May 06 18:48:08 <jstueve> checking for suffix of object files... configure: error: cannot compute suffix of object files: cannot compile
May 06 18:48:09 <jstueve> See `config.log' for more details.
May 06 18:48:11 <jstueve> FATAL: oe_runconf failed
May 06 18:48:45 <jstueve> ls
May 06 18:49:37 <NAiL> Ok, anyone with a tad more experience got an idea what might be wrong? ;)
May 06 18:50:01 <jstueve> where is config.log
May 06 18:50:40 <jstueve> this might be something
May 06 18:51:23 <jstueve> configure: loading site script /home/slug/openembedded/site/armeb-linux
May 06 18:51:24 <jstueve> checking build system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
May 06 18:51:24 <jstueve> checking host system type... armeb-unknown-linux-gnu
May 06 18:51:24 <jstueve> running configure fragment for add-on linuxthreads
May 06 18:51:30 <NAiL> should be in build/tmp/work/glibc-whatever somewhere
May 06 18:53:07 <jstueve> okay found it in etc under there...
May 06 18:53:56 <jstueve> 950 lines... 
May 06 18:54:15 <NAiL> should be at the end somewhere
May 06 18:55:02 <jstueve> failed from was: #line 2600 configure
May 06 18:56:14 <jstueve> condefs.h
May 06 18:56:19 <NAiL> NOTE: package glibc-2.3.2+cvs20040726-r17: task do_configure: started
May 06 18:56:20 <NAiL> NOTE: package glibc-2.3.2+cvs20040726-r17: task do_configure: completed
May 06 18:56:31 <NAiL> Hmm... works for me..
May 06 18:56:51 <NAiL> What distro are you using?
May 06 18:57:09 <jstueve> ubuntu (debian fork)
May 06 18:57:51 <NAiL> Do you have all the required software? (http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/OpenEmbedded/RequiredSoftware)
May 06 18:58:00 <jstueve> yeah.. all that is installed...
May 06 18:58:04 <jstueve> bitbake the woiks
May 06 18:58:46 <NAiL> hrmm.. Dunno then. 
May 06 18:59:06 <dyoung-web> everytime I see Ubuntu, I almost exclaim "Tutunka!"
May 06 18:59:43 <jacques> aweemaway aweemaway
May 06 19:00:04 <jstueve> In th ejungle the mighty jungle 
May 06 19:00:10 <NAiL> lol
May 06 19:00:42 <jstueve> this is my configure 
May 06 19:00:44 <jstueve>   $ /home/slug/tmp/work/glibc-2.3.2+cvs20040726-r17/libc/configure --build=i686-linux --host=armeb-linux --target=armeb-linux --prefix=/usr --exec_prefix=/usr --bindir=/usr/bin --sbindir=/usr/sbin --libexecdir=/usr/libexec --datadir=/usr/share --sysconfdir=/etc --sharedstatedir=/usr/com --localstatedir=/var --libdir=/usr/lib --includedir=/usr/include --oldincludedir=/usr/include --infodir=/usr/share/info --mandir=/usr/share/man --enab
May 06 19:00:44 <jstueve> le-kernel=2.4.0 --without-cvs --disable-profile --disable-debug --without-gd --enable-clocale=gnu --enable-add-ons=linuxthreads --with-headers=/home/slug/tmp/cross/armeb-linux/include --without-fp
May 06 19:01:37 <jacques> hmm, I misspelled that
May 06 19:01:43 <jacques> it's actually "Ohi'mbube"
May 06 19:02:27 <dyoung-web> Okay, you guys are worse than me. :-)
May 06 19:02:42 <jacques> hmm I think I will take that as a compliment
May 06 19:02:56 <dyoung-web> Mine is from dances with wolves.
May 06 19:02:58 <NAiL> people... please. It's 4am in the morning. I'm laughing so hard my somach hurts here ;)
May 06 19:03:04 <NAiL> stomach, even
May 06 19:03:10 <jacques> :-)
May 06 19:03:31 <jstueve> configure:2634: error: cannot compute suffix of object files: cannot compile
May 06 19:03:43 <jacques> yeah that's im portant I think
May 06 19:03:51 <jacques> I've seen that before - trying to recall whee
May 06 19:03:53 <jacques> where
May 06 19:04:03 <jacques> jstueve, what arch is your build host?
May 06 19:04:14 <jstueve> x86
May 06 19:04:27 <jstueve> Dell Laptop 
May 06 19:05:18 <jacques> ok, x86 should be no problem, I thought maybe I'd seen it on other archs
May 06 19:05:42 <jacques> jstueve, do you have 'file' installed?
May 06 19:06:19 <jstueve> looks like it choked on sed
May 06 19:06:28 <jstueve> how would I check?
May 06 19:06:47 <dyoung-web> file /etc/passwd
May 06 19:07:04 <jstueve> ASCII text
May 06 19:07:29 <jacques> ok that's not it then
May 06 19:07:42 <jacques> and you do have sed? (it should be standard)
May 06 19:07:58 <jstueve> yeah... it is installed..
May 06 19:08:11 <jstueve> the case where is breaks is this code...
May 06 19:08:31 <jstueve> if { (eval echo "$as_me:$LINENO: \"$ac_compile\"") >&5
May 06 19:08:41 <jstueve> the program brances to the else there...
May 06 19:09:06 <jacques> your /bin/sh is bash ?
May 06 19:09:12 <jstueve> yep
May 06 19:11:02 <jstueve> &5 is a cmdline argument from when configure is called?
May 06 19:11:23 <jacques> I don't know
May 06 19:11:38 <jacques> might be a file handle
May 06 19:13:31 <jstueve> it is creating condefs.h dynamically
May 06 19:14:40 <jacques> the last time I saw this error I think it was trying to native compile on the slug
May 06 19:15:25 <jstueve> line 2620 gets outputted as $? =1 
May 06 19:15:28 <NAiL> jstueve: btw, you haven't run out of diskspace, have you? :)
May 06 19:15:30 <jstueve> the code is:
May 06 19:15:36 <jstueve> hm
May 06 19:16:12 <jstueve> nope 11197148 avil
May 06 19:16:40 <jstueve> echo "$as_me:$LINENO: \$? = $ac_status" >&5
May 06 19:16:45 <NAiL> good :)
May 06 19:17:11 <jstueve> configure:2620: $? = 1
May 06 19:17:56 <jstueve> okay.. that doesn't make much sense...
May 06 19:18:12 <jacques> jstueve, do you have a separate partition for / and /home ?
May 06 19:18:19 <jacques> is maybe / full ?
May 06 19:18:24 <jstueve> that was /
May 06 19:18:28 <jstueve> all one partition...
May 06 19:18:28 <jacques> ok
May 06 19:18:48 <jstueve>  /boot and /swap are the only other partitions
May 06 19:19:26 <jstueve> maybe swap?
May 06 19:19:50 <jstueve> of root only 25% used
May 06 19:19:55 <NAiL> how much ram+swap do you have?
May 06 19:20:01 <jstueve> 512 RAM
May 06 19:20:07 <NAiL> should be plenty
May 06 19:20:09 <jstueve> swap is 2M I think
May 06 19:20:20 <NAiL> 2mb?
May 06 19:20:25 <jstueve> g?
May 06 19:20:30 <jstueve> I don't know.. lol
May 06 19:20:35 <NAiL> Sounds a bit more reasonable :P
May 06 19:21:13 <jstueve> I was generous... :d
May 06 19:21:51 <jstueve> this is the whole eval that failed:
May 06 19:21:52 <jstueve> if { (eval echo "$as_me:$LINENO: \"$ac_compile\"") >&5
May 06 19:21:53 <jstueve>   (eval $ac_compile) 2>&5
May 06 19:21:53 <jstueve>   ac_status=$?
May 06 19:21:53 <jstueve>   echo "$as_me:$LINENO: \$? = $ac_status" >&5
May 06 19:21:53 <jstueve>   (exit $ac_status); };
May 06 19:23:00 <jstueve> running through conftest.o .obj
May 06 19:27:02 <jstueve> if I took out the TARGET_OS_LOCAL from my local.conf
May 06 19:27:18 <jstueve> would that package I got from you, NAiL work?
May 06 19:27:50 <NAiL> jstueve: If you take out target_os_local, you'd get a standard glibc build. It'll work, but take more space ;)
May 06 19:28:01 <jstueve> um would 
May 06 19:28:07 <jstueve> ummm.. would
May 06 19:28:36 <jstueve> I had SELECTED_OPTIMIZATIONS = "=0s"
May 06 19:28:44 <NAiL> uh
May 06 19:28:45 <jstueve> would that fiddle things
May 06 19:29:10 <NAiL> dash capital-o lowercase s
May 06 19:29:12 <jstueve> 0s or Os
May 06 19:29:15 <jstueve> heh...
May 06 19:29:44 <jstueve> so kill the tmp and start over?
May 06 19:29:45 <jacques> ouch
May 06 19:30:05 <NAiL> It's best that way :P
May 06 19:30:58 <jstueve> *sigh*
May 06 19:31:22 <jstueve> presses the red button again...
May 06 19:31:59 <NAiL> jstueve: Once you get it working, it's a breeze ;)
May 06 19:33:04 <NAiL> btw, you have TARGET_OS_local, not LOCAL, right?
May 06 19:34:58 <NAiL> btw, anyone knows how the Packages file works? Do I have to add stuff to it manually, or should it be automagically updated if I add, say, samba?
May 06 19:37:28 <jstueve> err.. ahh.. 
May 06 19:37:34 <jstueve> LOCAL
May 06 19:37:54 <jstueve> stop fix and restart?
May 06 19:38:12 <NAiL> heh
May 06 19:38:26 <NAiL> yes ;)
May 06 19:39:11 <NAiL> TARGET_OS_local="linux-uclibc"
May 06 19:39:35 <NAiL> SELECTED_OPTIMIZATION = "-Os"
May 06 19:39:52 <NAiL> If you have those two exactly, it should work as a charm :)
May 06 19:40:50 <NAiL> oh, and DISTRO="openslug"
May 06 19:40:55 <jstueve> I c&p that time.
May 06 19:40:56 <NAiL> if you haven't set that one
May 06 19:41:37 <jstueve> *crosses fingers*
May 06 19:41:41 * NAiL too
May 06 19:41:51 <jstueve> yeah.. I'm fairly certain I did that right...
May 06 19:42:16 <jstueve> okay.. can I take a snapshot of my current flash.. to restore when the thing doesn't boot?
May 06 19:42:47 <NAiL> You done anything with your flash yet, or is the slug stock?
May 06 19:43:06 <jstueve> it is unslug3-18 beta
May 06 19:43:17 <NAiL> ah, yes, you said that
May 06 19:43:57 <NAiL> well.. no, I don't think there's an easy way to snapshot it
May 06 19:44:15 <NAiL> But you could back up all the files to your hdd
May 06 19:44:32 <jstueve> tar it all up?
May 06 19:44:39 <NAiL> yeah
May 06 19:45:00 <NAiL> So you could flash with unslung firmware, then restore your config from the backup
May 06 19:45:39 <jstueve> lesee tar -cvf / /share/hdd/data/backup.tar
May 06 19:45:45 <NAiL> hrrm
May 06 19:45:51 <jstueve> that becomes recursive...
May 06 19:45:54 <NAiL> That'll tar up your hdd aswell
May 06 19:46:37 <NAiL> tar -cvf /boot /etc /home /root (Not /proc/ or /dev/, butm ost of the rest) /share/hdd/data/backup.tar
May 06 19:47:06 <jstueve> so how do I do that in one line...
May 06 19:47:19 <jstueve> where is the optimizers when you need one..
May 06 19:47:22 <NAiL> like that... 
May 06 19:47:37 <jstueve> ah...
May 06 19:47:43 <NAiL> tat -cvs /boot /etc /home /root /share/hdd/blah.tar
May 06 19:47:49 * NAiL can't type
May 06 19:47:58 <NAiL> I give up. I'm going to bed
May 06 19:48:48 <jstueve> sleep well my friend.. thanks for your help..
May 06 19:49:52 <NAiL> np
May 06 19:50:33 <jstueve> bin opt?
May 06 19:50:42 <NAiL> why not ;)
May 06 19:50:56 <jstueve> unslung 
May 06 19:50:58 <jstueve> not share
May 06 19:51:05 <jstueve> not mnt
May 06 19:51:08 <jstueve> lib?
May 06 19:51:13 <NAiL> yeah
May 06 19:51:47 <jstueve> not opt.. that is a ln to the hdd/data/opt
May 06 19:51:54 <NAiL> oh
May 06 19:52:37 <jstueve> so bin etc home lib root sbin unslung upload usr var
May 06 19:53:56 <NAiL> sounds about right'
May 06 19:54:07 <jstueve> the tar file goes first... 
May 06 19:54:43 <jstueve> zzziiiiinnnnnggg
May 06 19:55:05 <NAiL> heh
May 06 19:55:28 <jstueve> 101K sound about right?
May 06 19:55:36 <jstueve> no 10K
May 06 19:55:45 <jstueve> ls -l should have commas...
May 06 20:06:04 <NAiL> jstueve: Give me an update tomorrow :)
May 06 20:06:15 * NAiL goes to sleep. For sure this time :P
May 06 20:10:47 <jstueve> :d
May 06 20:35:09 <ka6sox-office> nite NAiL 
May 06 21:45:04 <jstueve> is anyone here? my build completed...
May 06 21:45:31 <rwhitby-away> congrats
May 06 21:48:57 * jstueve whoops...
May 06 21:49:18 <jstueve> so.. upslug? with harddrive connected?
May 06 21:49:30 <jstueve> is there a proces on the wiki that describes installation?
May 06 21:55:45 <rwhitby-away> what's running on the slug at the moment?
May 06 21:56:10 <rwhitby-away> you can use the web interface ....
May 06 22:00:22 <jstueve> 3-18 beta
May 06 22:00:37 <jstueve> and then to telnet into the openslug?
May 06 22:00:51 <rwhitby-away> you should be able to remove the harddisk, and use maintenance mode to flash it.
May 06 22:01:32 <rwhitby-away> telnet or ssh, I forget which is enabled on a new installation
May 06 22:01:36 <jstueve> so don't flash with hd connected...
May 06 22:01:40 <rwhitby-away> root/opeNSLUg
May 06 22:31:20 <rwhitby-away> jstueve: never flash with hard disk connected.
May 06 22:32:53 <ka6sox-away> we need to add that to our new README for Openslug.
May 06 22:34:40 <jstueve> there is a README? in the tmp dir?
May 06 22:35:32 <ka6sox-away> https://developer.berlios.de/project/showfiles.php?group_id=3702&release_id=5688
May 06 22:35:44 <ByronT> ka6sox-away, that is in the README
May 06 22:36:02 <ka6sox-away> just posted it.
May 06 22:36:16 <dyoung> wheres the source for that file?
May 06 22:36:30 <ka6sox-away> the readme?
May 06 22:36:36 <ByronT> dyoung, my harddrive
May 06 22:36:57 <ByronT> from the README - (Without any HD attached while flashing!!!)
May 06 22:37:01 <dyoung> so it is currently not under revision control?  Is it appreciably differnt than the one in BK?
May 06 22:37:18 <ka6sox-away> yes...it needs to be checked in.
May 06 22:37:29 <ka6sox-away> it only applies to the Beta.
May 06 22:37:36 <ByronT> that is a brand spanking new README
May 06 22:37:44 <ByronT> for the binary
May 06 22:37:45 <dyoung> I'm a little confused about how this is all going to work.
May 06 22:40:19 <rwhitby-away> ByronT: that README needs to live in BK somewhere
May 06 22:41:05 <rwhitby-away> openslug-init is probably the best place for it, unless we suddenly get an openslug-rootfs package ...
May 06 23:33:10 <jstueve> anyway to change the default ip address in the image?
May 06 23:35:27 <dyoung> its not in the image.
May 06 23:35:35 <dyoung> its in the sysconf.
May 06 23:39:05 <jstueve> so if I set it already in the linksys web, that IP will persist?
May 06 23:43:19 <dyoung> Yes.
May 06 23:43:36 <jstueve> schweet
May 06 23:43:44 <dyoung> it was on someones todo list to make a utility that can edit the sysconf, but I dunno who it was, or if it was ever done. ;-)
May 06 23:44:27 <dyoung> if youre interested in how it works, its part of openslug-init.
May 06 23:45:10 <jstueve> my only troublesome spot is not wanting to wipe the data partition I have working with unslung...
May 06 23:45:37 <jstueve> is openslug-init in /etc?
May 06 23:46:05 <dyoung> oh thats a openembedded package.
May 06 23:46:51 <jstueve> I guess I could attach the usb-hd to my ubuntu box, and resize the partitions to give me a clean part for openslug
May 06 23:55:51 <rwhitby-away> or just boot into openslug and then fdisk and mke2fs it from there
May 06 23:55:59 <rwhitby-away> (before you turnup)
May 06 23:56:58 <rwhitby-away> but yeah, resizing is best done elsewhere
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