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Nov 10 10:36:10 <NAiL> encode: why do you want to build the smbfs module natively?
Nov 10 12:59:23 <encode> NAiLZzZ: i dont anymore - i just couldnt find the package to download earlier
Nov 10 15:58:13 <McTails> hello all
Nov 10 15:58:25 <koen>  hey McTails 
Nov 10 15:58:37 <McTails> koen: Know anything about Samba?
Nov 10 15:58:56 <koen> only that I hate it and OSX doesn't like it
Nov 10 15:59:36 <McTails> lol
Nov 10 15:59:47 <McTails> Ok, know a package that addsa  proper usermod command?
Nov 10 16:02:47 <koen> it should be in 'passwd', but I'm not sure if that's in the feeds
Nov 10 16:04:23 <McTails> ok
Nov 10 16:06:33 <McTails> Ooh, I got it to work nicely
Nov 10 16:06:35 <McTails> (Samba and OSX)
Nov 10 16:10:17 <McTails> Figurs groff is still missing -_-;
Nov 10 18:39:42 <McTails> anyone home?
Nov 10 18:48:23 <Snow-Joy> yawn. anyone where not ideling? cant figure out how to execute the wakelan package..
Nov 10 18:48:28 <Snow-Joy> i've downloaded it using the package tool
Nov 10 18:49:02 <McTails> here
Nov 10 18:49:15 <Snow-Joy> i tried to cat out t
Nov 10 18:49:51 <Snow-Joy> i found the files (?) at /opt/bin/wakelan
Nov 10 18:50:15 <Snow-Joy> if i type wakelan, i just get unknown folder or file.. same if i try to access it as a folder. if i cat the file, i do get the binary content. so i'm not quite sure how to execute the app..? :|
Nov 10 18:50:54 <McTails> On openslug or unslug?
Nov 10 18:51:00 <Snow-Joy> unslug
Nov 10 18:51:36 <McTails> I'll try to help you, but this is the Openslug dev room, so there might be people that might be able to help you in #unslug or #nslu2-linux
Nov 10 18:52:05 <Snow-Joy> cool, people in the nslu2-linux chan at least.. not much happening in nslu2-general
Nov 10 18:52:11 <McTails> ok
Nov 10 18:52:18 <McTails> What is in your PATH at the moment
Nov 10 18:52:30 <Snow-Joy> isnt the nslu2-linux the dev chan..? dont want to bother them with my questions...
Nov 10 18:52:44 <Snow-Joy> hmm. how do i check that ? (i'm a windows guy with just a tiny Linux knowledge)
Nov 10 18:52:51 <McTails> type export by itself
Nov 10 18:52:53 <Snow-Joy> oh
Nov 10 18:53:16 <McTails> your looking for a line that is like PATH by itself
Nov 10 18:53:19 <Snow-Joy> export PATH='/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin'
Nov 10 18:53:30 <McTails> There is your problem
Nov 10 18:53:33 <McTails> type:
Nov 10 18:53:57 <McTails> export PATH='/opt/bin:/opt/sbin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin'
Nov 10 18:54:03 <McTails> then type wakelan
Nov 10 18:54:07 <McTails> to see if it works
Nov 10 18:55:20 <Snow-Joy> WOHA :D 
Nov 10 18:55:25 <Snow-Joy> it works...! :D
Nov 10 18:55:46 <McTails> Ok
Nov 10 18:55:59 <McTails> The geniues who created unslug never set the PATH
Nov 10 18:56:07 <Snow-Joy> so, the next thing i need is a SSH deamon, right.. caouse i want to use my Linksys for three things: WakeOnLan over the Internett, FTP Server and Printer server (+ Samba file server on LAN)
Nov 10 18:56:13 <McTails> ipkg install dropbear
Nov 10 18:56:19 <McTails> That takes care of it automatically and installs it
Nov 10 18:56:30 <Snow-Joy> it's better than OpenSSH? 
Nov 10 18:56:34 <McTails> Faster
Nov 10 18:56:43 <McTails> It's designed for embedded platforms
Nov 10 18:56:47 <Snow-Joy> great. i want to use a strong password, and not SSH public key stuff (read about it in the wiki)
Nov 10 18:56:53 <McTails> That's fine
Nov 10 18:57:04 <Snow-Joy> *instaling dropbear*
Nov 10 18:57:16 <McTails> the change you made to the PATH is non-persistant, you have to edit the system files to change the master path
Nov 10 18:57:39 <Snow-Joy> i see. where do i find the sys files? would be nice to have the path set once and for all
Nov 10 18:57:47 <McTails> It's very easy to do
Nov 10 18:58:05 <Snow-Joy> (do i need to copy the md5 fingerprint generated by dropbear installation..?)
Nov 10 18:58:32 <McTails> echo 'export PATH="/opt/bin:/opt/sbin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin"' >> /etc/profile
Nov 10 18:58:45 <McTails> Make sure you copy and paste that line, the quotes are VERY important
Nov 10 18:59:30 <Snow-Joy> done. didnt get any response (so i assume it worked fine)
Nov 10 18:59:40 <Snow-Joy> so, what's the next step to configure dropbear? 
Nov 10 18:59:53 <McTails> None
Nov 10 18:59:56 <McTails> self-configurating
Nov 10 19:00:06 <McTails> It should have started itsel after installation
Nov 10 19:00:23 <McTails> (did you see a message saying Starting dropbear..."
Nov 10 19:00:23 <Snow-Joy> okey. does it mount when i reboot the linksys device?
Nov 10 19:00:34 <McTails> dropbear should start on startup
Nov 10 19:00:40 <McTails> And the PATH change will always appear now
Nov 10 19:01:15 <Snow-Joy> great. didnt see a starting dropbear note... configuring dropbear, generating key, public key portion is.. fingerprint, 1024 dss secret key, generating key, fingerprint
Nov 10 19:01:37 <McTails> Yeah, that takes a few moments
Nov 10 19:01:45 <McTails> But just try your SSH client at the slug
Nov 10 19:01:45 <Snow-Joy> so, i logon using the root account and the password i've sat using passwd (the last thing i did in the installaion was setting root password)
Nov 10 19:01:52 <Snow-Joy> okey, 2sec, have to download putty
Nov 10 19:02:15 <McTails> yup
Nov 10 19:02:21 <McTails> Linux is a great platorm
Nov 10 19:02:38 <Snow-Joy> yeah, i'm impressed. and the unslug "distro" is really "userfriendly" 
Nov 10 19:02:39 <McTails> Totally flexiable for power users like me (like how I used echo to ammend the system profile file)
Nov 10 19:02:46 <Snow-Joy> i'm a linux noob and was up and running in no time.
Nov 10 19:02:51 <McTails> You should try KNOPPIX
Nov 10 19:02:58 <McTails> It's Linux on a LiveCD
Nov 10 19:03:05 <McTails> You pop it in, and have an instant system with full GUI
Nov 10 19:03:11 <McTails> So you can see if Linux would work for you
Nov 10 19:03:16 <Snow-Joy> (i work as a .NET/C# developer, so i have above avarage computer knowledge, but never done much Linux)
Nov 10 19:03:30 <Snow-Joy> yeah, i've done some Linux stuff, messed around with Suse 9.1 and Mono (.NET and C# on Linux) 
Nov 10 19:03:30 <McTails> AH EVIL!
Nov 10 19:03:41 * McTails gets his M$ remover
Nov 10 19:03:45 <Snow-Joy> haha. well, let's not start that discussion. :P 
Nov 10 19:03:49 <McTails> Yeah :-p
Nov 10 19:04:39 <Snow-Joy> i allways try to use the right tool for the right job, and this Linksys device (with Linux) is EXACTLY what i needed in my appartment (remote access over the internett, able to wake up my HTPC etc)
Nov 10 19:04:41 <Snow-Joy> it's perfect :P 
Nov 10 19:04:48 <Snow-Joy> 22 is the default port?
Nov 10 19:04:51 <McTails> Yup
Nov 10 19:04:58 <McTails> Add a WRT54G(S) to your network
Nov 10 19:05:04 <Snow-Joy> what's that?
Nov 10 19:05:08 <Snow-Joy> a router running linux?
Nov 10 19:05:08 <McTails> Flash it with OpenWRT and have something that blows even Cisco's out of the water
Nov 10 19:05:13 <Snow-Joy> cool :D
Nov 10 19:05:15 <McTails> Linksys Router ;-)
Nov 10 19:05:18 <Snow-Joy> cool. 
Nov 10 19:05:27 <McTails> openwrt.org - check it out
Nov 10 19:05:56 <Snow-Joy> okey, connected with ssh
Nov 10 19:06:02 <McTails> anything else?
Nov 10 19:06:08 <Snow-Joy> if i type ls after the prompt, i dont get any folders..? 
Nov 10 19:06:21 <McTails> type pwd
Nov 10 19:06:23 <McTails> See where you are
Nov 10 19:06:30 <Snow-Joy> at /root
Nov 10 19:06:41 <McTails> If you want to get to your files, type cd /share/hdd/data
Nov 10 19:06:47 <McTails> (or /share/flash/data
Nov 10 19:07:07 <Snow-Joy> okey, sweet. so, why is there a 8 char limitation on the root password..? 
Nov 10 19:07:20 <McTails> The message is seriously out of date
Nov 10 19:07:24 <Snow-Joy> oh. hehe
Nov 10 19:07:25 <McTails> My password is 12 chracters
Nov 10 19:07:32 <McTails> but in days of UNIX past, that was true
Nov 10 19:08:00 <Snow-Joy> haha. i didnt even try with a longer password :P now i've updated the password to something strong enough for me to make the device available on the network.
Nov 10 19:08:25 <McTails> heh
Nov 10 19:08:47 <Snow-Joy> so, the next thing i need is ftp and printing..
Nov 10 19:10:16 <Snow-Joy> how, there is a printer howto.. i guess i should be able to follow that one, and dont bother you with my questions
Nov 10 19:10:30 <McTails> the printer is hard
Nov 10 19:10:36 <McTails> I just had to compile CUPS my self
Nov 10 19:10:48 <McTails> (I'm using openslug, and it doesn't have CUPS packages)
Nov 10 19:11:10 <Snow-Joy> oh.
Nov 10 19:11:32 <Snow-Joy> it has a cups ipkg package..?
Nov 10 19:14:26 <McTails> yeah
Nov 10 19:14:35 <McTails> you should be able to install it with ipkg install cps
Nov 10 19:15:33 <Snow-Joy> i have a simple HP Deskjet 845c, should be a prety standard, commonly used printer..
Nov 10 19:18:16 <Snow-Joy> well, its late, need to get some sleep...
Nov 10 19:18:26 <Snow-Joy> thanks alot man. you've been really helpfull.. i'll look into the printer stuff tomorrow.
Nov 10 19:18:29 <Snow-Joy> later
Nov 10 21:12:30 <McTails> anyne here
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