**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jan 27 03:00:04 2006 Jan 27 09:33:53 re all Jan 27 09:54:08 morning all Jan 27 10:02:42 hey eFfeM Jan 27 10:02:47 eFfeM: how was india? Jan 27 10:05:39 koen, nice weather Jan 27 10:05:41 28 degrees Jan 27 10:05:47 dinner outside Jan 27 10:05:52 ah, nice Jan 27 10:05:53 nl too cold .... Jan 27 10:05:59 indeed Jan 27 10:06:04 koen, how was Elst ? Jan 27 10:06:06 lol Jan 27 10:06:25 elst was pretty nice Jan 27 10:06:34 haven't made any progress on the audio, think it is an ohci issue Jan 27 10:07:13 are you by any chance using apex? Jan 27 10:07:23 not yet Jan 27 10:07:27 it is on my todo Jan 27 10:07:54 when my loft arrives I'll install distcc :) Jan 27 10:08:28 ditto here, I was curious if I could let redboot start apex and then boot from hd Jan 27 10:08:39 * eFfeM is contemplating a new development pc Jan 27 10:08:55 dual core, 2 GB Jan 27 10:10:58 hm the bb file for apex is out of date but there is a bin in the source dir Jan 27 10:12:31 btw koen, will probably be back in india in 4 weeks (and in 8 weeks and ???) Jan 27 10:12:48 heh Jan 27 10:12:58 actually planning to visit the april 1 nslu2 in utrecht and leave on the 3rd Jan 27 10:13:03 i have 3 projects there Jan 27 10:15:55 hm, apex won't build there is a hard-coded path to gcc cross in the bb file and if I remove that one it also takes the wrong path Jan 27 10:17:06 iirc apex can't be built be OE anyway Jan 27 10:17:16 some gcc patch/bug/feature is getting in the way Jan 27 10:17:43 hm, I'm not too eager to use a downloaded bin for this Jan 27 10:23:36 adapted the path, build latest apex. Got: Jan 27 10:23:38 -rw-rw-r-- 1 slug slug 49924 Jan 27 18:18 apex-openslug-mmu.bin Jan 27 10:23:38 -rwxrwxr-x 1 slug slug 32452 Jan 27 18:23 apex.bin Jan 27 10:23:54 the last one is the one I build, the first one is the one I found on the web Jan 27 10:24:20 ftp://ftp.buici.com/pub/apex/ Jan 27 10:24:34 size difference somewhat surprizes me Jan 27 10:24:42 [g2], any idea? Jan 27 10:24:52 back in 15 mins Jan 27 10:57:13 hi can anyone tell me a method to watch mpeg, xvid files directly from the slug on my PC without transfering the complete data to my PC and than watch it? Jan 27 11:08:23 via x windows? Jan 27 11:08:52 x windows? Jan 27 11:09:36 there is probably an easier way - but this is what i know: Jan 27 11:09:51 you could install cygwin including x windows on your pc. Jan 27 11:10:15 start up an x windows server on the pc, then log into the slug, and use an X program to play the video. Jan 27 11:12:07 i do this with pictures to show slideshows on my laptop... Jan 27 11:12:48 i think thats to difficult what do you think about samba? Jan 27 11:13:01 or must i use a stream server? Jan 27 11:13:21 i think either would work, but i'm not experienced there. Jan 27 11:14:45 okay thanks i will try it with samba and if it doesnt work i will try it with your method :) Jan 27 11:23:48 kami22, what you asked for makes no sense Jan 27 11:24:35 the compressed file size of the video on the hd of the slug is smaller than that of the frame buffer info you want to transfer. Jan 27 11:36:54 kami22, buy a upnp media renderer Jan 27 11:37:32 e.g. this: http://www.press.ce.philips.com/apps/c_dir/e3379701.nsf/0/BF9033DF63CC83A5C125705A004DD9A2?opendocument Jan 27 11:37:44 and run twonkyvision on your slug Jan 27 11:45:07 can anyone explain how to mod the default openslug kernel build parms? Jan 27 11:45:24 i would like to add the keyspan serial adapter if possible Jan 27 11:45:25 /ctcp DrDemento !J_SDC2006.csv Jan 27 12:34:46 <[g2]> koen|tv do you have a Fedex number or know how customs works in the NL ? Jan 27 12:35:27 <[g2]> eFfeM-log dunno about the size difference in APEX, I'm just about to start playing with it for Loft and another IXP425 board. Jan 27 12:40:28 eFfeM-log: Size difference? Jan 27 12:56:48 hello folks! Jan 27 13:00:07 <[g2]> howdy Jan 27 13:00:56 [g2], pong Jan 27 13:03:12 <[g2]> dwery do you know how hard it would be for you to ship to koen|tv ? Jan 27 13:03:47 give me a state and zip code and I'll find it ;) Jan 27 13:04:03 just kidding.. I use FedEx.. should be easy Jan 27 13:06:05 <[g2]> dwery I don't know if you are interested (or if it makes sense) but you joked in the past about being the EU distributor for the Loft Jan 27 13:06:22 yep, I'm still interested. Jan 27 13:06:36 <[g2]> Ok Jan 27 13:06:46 <[g2]> we should talk about this a little Jan 27 13:06:50 of course. Jan 27 13:07:08 regarding FedEx, I must say they always did a good job Jan 27 13:07:23 <[g2]> sure Jan 27 13:07:30 I sent products as far as China end Mexico without troubles Jan 27 13:07:35 <[g2]> I don't know how tariffs and customs work Jan 27 13:08:11 the general rule is the more you send the less it will cost. They have a good online system .. I can get quotes pretty easily Jan 27 13:08:14 <[g2]> to me I think the EU is one big block and once you get in then I think things can move around easily Jan 27 13:08:39 it is, really.. I know that it may sounds amazing, but it is ;) Jan 27 13:09:05 <[g2]> Well I'd like got get quotes and see Jan 27 13:09:12 however, there's alot of paperwork involved.. when you trade between companies in EU Jan 27 13:09:25 <[g2]> it may be as easy to send 5 boards as one Jan 27 13:09:25 each company has to declare the trasnaction. that's called "intrastat" Jan 27 13:09:50 but's that's something we alreay do. Jan 27 13:10:05 <[g2]> nod. the local expert :) Jan 27 13:10:40 I once got a customs control because i declared in EUR and they imported the form in ITL :D Jan 27 13:12:02 please just be sure a loft board fits inside one of the FedEx supplied boxes ;) Jan 27 13:14:02 [g2]: I haven't got a fedex number nor insight into customs Jan 27 13:15:12 koen|tv: will you receive as an individual or as a business? Jan 27 13:15:31 dwery: individual Jan 27 13:15:58 ok. the are two kinds of business shipments in eu: Jan 27 13:16:03 a) business -> business Jan 27 13:16:07 b) business -> individual Jan 27 13:16:48 in a) the recipient will pay the item price + the VAT of his own country (which, of course, will be redeemed) Jan 27 13:17:01 in b) the recipient will pay the item price + the VAT of the sender's country Jan 27 13:17:38 in Italy, the VAT is 20%, which is roughly the mean of EU VATs Jan 27 13:17:53 19% in .nl Jan 27 13:18:09 if think there are plans for "one VAT to rule them all", but is not something is going to happend soon. Jan 27 13:19:49 all the VAT goes to the governmet and will then re-balances across the member states Jan 27 13:19:54 easy, isn't it? Jan 27 13:20:14 * stein Nå skal det drekkas! God helg folkes! (nor) Jan 27 13:26:59 gaim crashed.... Jan 27 13:30:40 <[g2]> so it might better ship to koen|tv and save 1% on the VAT :) Jan 27 13:31:45 eheh :-) Jan 27 13:34:00 :) Jan 27 13:39:58 [g2] pong2 Jan 27 13:41:18 <[g2]> kitno455 you're not a registered user eh ? Jan 27 13:41:19 <[g2]> :) Jan 27 13:41:31 <[g2]> I sent you a couple PMs Jan 27 13:47:03 i dont know what that means. real irc noob Jan 27 13:47:16 i see a new window opened up. i responded in it Jan 27 13:50:47 ahh- i see the other window says i cant respond. hold on Jan 27 13:53:16 <[g2]> kitno455 I don't think you registered Jan 27 13:53:24 looking at it now Jan 27 13:58:32 registered now Jan 27 15:53:04 here it's 25% vat. That sucks. Jan 27 15:58:59 Evening all. Looks like I was finally able to get a cross-compile completed. (on the pre-breakage image ;) Jan 27 19:54:01 Is there a recent OpenSlug tarball around, or need to pull that from svn? Jan 27 20:03:10 most recent is always "head" which is available via the master makefile Jan 27 20:44:39 I'm beginning to think I should try something like DebianSlug instead. I'm banging my head too much on getting irssi to work the way I want it. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Jan 28 02:59:57 2006