**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jan 31 02:59:56 2006 Jan 31 07:28:53 i'm having some difficulty compiling apache on the slug. Jan 31 07:29:08 the toolchain is working fine, and configure and compile run via bitbake. Jan 31 07:29:47 i "do_package" i get tons of "Couldn't find shared library provider for " Jan 31 07:29:55 any hints? Jan 31 07:31:12 andrea_, did you see my reply about pand? Jan 31 07:36:13 did i get a chance to mention that slugos/oe/master makefile rocks? Jan 31 07:36:31 oh, and reflash and turnup too Jan 31 07:40:07 it doens't work compiling natively on the slug... Jan 31 10:34:39 jbowler- have you seen anything weird with terminal on a recent ucslugc? sorry to cross-post Jan 31 11:01:23 i see missing chars when either minicom to serial port, or ssh'd into a slug running current ucslugc Jan 31 11:01:30 both from an fc4 box Jan 31 11:01:57 problem seems primarily related to display, esp. of \r\n Jan 31 11:02:27 the data goes in correctly, but you have to type blind and ignore what is on the screen in vi, for instance Jan 31 11:24:52 kitno455: minicom seems totally broken to me Jan 31 11:25:51 ssh, no problems I'm aware of but bitbake vi is less than perfect. The term caps need to be vt100 I think - i.e. you must use a vt100 compatible emulator on the remote end. Jan 31 11:26:04 I've noticed the same issue on openslug-3.1 when editing a file in vi thru my FC4 minicom. Jan 31 11:27:07 i thought it was minicom or my homebuilt serial adapter at first Jan 31 11:27:11 minicom is clearly telling the other end that this is a raw vt100 (80x24) - it doesn't do the screen size stuff. Jan 31 11:27:19 but it seems to be vi over ssh as well Jan 31 11:28:11 i could try installing a real vi and see if that helps Jan 31 11:28:27 Not for me, vi over ssh does full window (!80x24) fine, vi over minicom only works if the minicom window really is 80x24 Jan 31 11:28:38 weird Jan 31 11:28:45 yep. Same here. vi over ssh is broken. On deletion of single character especially. Jan 31 11:28:52 yes, yes Jan 31 11:29:32 can we change TERM var on either side of connection, will that help? Jan 31 11:29:51 VoodooZ, i am using fc4 as well. wonder if that is it Jan 31 11:29:55 openslug-3.1 returns a TERM of vt100 Jan 31 11:30:04 so does ucslugc Jan 31 11:30:16 I'd be suprised though. Jan 31 11:30:30 but it's the same over ssh though. Jan 31 11:30:48 with all of rh's locale crap, i am no longer surprised Jan 31 11:30:56 i have been setting LC_ALL=C Jan 31 11:31:09 not on this box, though, lets try it :) Jan 31 11:31:23 what's LC_ALL again? Jan 31 11:31:49 override locale settings, put them back to old-time unix C Jan 31 11:32:02 capitals before lower case in alpha sort, etc Jan 31 11:32:19 kitno455, are it always the same chars you are missing? Jan 31 11:32:38 dont think so, but maybe- hold on Jan 31 11:32:38 VoodooZ, decided to buy the same audio thing that you have, ordered it yesterday Jan 31 11:33:01 eFfeM, good! Jan 31 11:33:03 kitno455, if it is it might be a parity issue Jan 31 11:33:12 eFfeM, btw, I tried rebooting a few times and the sound always works. Jan 31 11:33:45 $ 1 for the device, $ 8.5 for shipping and decided to fork an additional buck for insurance Jan 31 11:33:58 first ebay purchase for me :-) Jan 31 11:34:59 sound good. Jan 31 11:35:15 I've been buying stuff from ebay since 2003 and I've never been frauded. Jan 31 11:35:23 VoodooZ, good; forgot to ask if rebooting did keep the device working. Figured out it would from the reports in the wiki. Jan 31 11:35:56 I'm not afraid of fraud, this one definitely sold quite a lot. Also the amount is not dramatical Jan 31 11:44:21 ok, the messed up chars problem seems to me unrelated to which char you are typeing Jan 31 11:44:29 it is more about the sequence of chars Jan 31 11:45:34 hm. nr of bits and nr of start/stop bits ok ? Jan 31 11:45:49 i am using ssh Jan 31 11:46:03 it happens over minicom too Jan 31 11:46:48 if you are against the left margin, and you hit i, it goes into insert mode. then the first char you type prints out twice Jan 31 11:47:57 yep. Sounds similar to mine. Where I hit x once and it looks like two chars were deleted but if you refresh the screen (page up then down) everything is fine. Jan 31 11:52:18 kitno455, actually, I don't seem to have the x problem anymore under an ssh session but I do have the i one. Jan 31 11:52:31 I'd have to test the same thing via minicom tonight from home. Jan 31 11:55:01 oh, seems I've seen this as well (over ssh). is this the busybox vi? that one is pretty lousy, I've installed vim Jan 31 11:57:02 ok, here-s the really weird part- if i shell into the box, then use minicom on it (to the usb serial adapter), minicom has the same problem Jan 31 11:59:56 Ooh, thanks for that note, I've been getting fustrated about vi on the slug. *installs* Jan 31 12:01:11 I've been so intent on getting irssi cross-compiling correctely (still not happening), I've had no time to really look at the ipkg listings. Jan 31 12:03:28 Hello. I know this is a firmware development channel .. but I cannot find a soultion googling. How do I access/configure my Linksys BEFW11S4 when Im using it as a switch? Jan 31 12:04:31 wrong place DeadZed Jan 31 12:04:42 we work on the nslu2 Jan 31 12:04:51 not the BEFW... Jan 31 12:05:01 you guys know about linksys routers prolly :) Jan 31 12:05:24 are you trying to set it up with the default software on it? Jan 31 12:05:38 or with a custom software Jan 31 12:07:43 3-rd party firmware cannot be used with this model. Im trying to access my router through web-interface ... I was able to do that with 192.168.1.1 when i was using it as a router, but Im using it as a switch now (to bypass NAT - plugged wan cable into lan port) Jan 31 12:13:44 i finally got rid of my BEFW's... they just stopped working several times per week... Jan 31 12:14:14 that said, you should be able to connect to it even if the internet port is unused. Jan 31 12:14:32 i used one of them that way as a wireless long haul. Jan 31 12:14:36 I got it cheap .. they do crash :( ... latest linksys wrt-s are good i think Jan 31 12:15:01 i've had no problem with wrt54g v4 (linux) or v5 (the non-linux one) Jan 31 12:15:51 we should switch channels, but i'm a chat noob... Jan 31 12:15:59 the config interface only runs on the switch side ports anyway, right- it should make no difference Jan 31 12:16:23 what does the wrt54g v5 run if not linux? Jan 31 12:16:29 HopsNBarley can you remember how you accessed it when using as a switch Jan 31 12:17:01 I think its common knowledge .. I need to enter some correct IP or smth Jan 31 12:17:30 DeadZed, can you disconnect the wanlink, and hit a reset swtich? Jan 31 12:17:35 if it has one Jan 31 12:17:40 then you config as normal Jan 31 12:17:44 i dunno. vxworks. Jan 31 12:17:56 i wonder why? Jan 31 12:18:04 lets them use less flash/ram? Jan 31 12:18:37 guessing - they got burned on that GPL fiasco. the flash is half the size. Jan 31 12:19:03 to reset to factory defaults don't you hold the switch in while you power it up? Jan 31 12:19:15 even this should be in the nearly worthless manual (-; Jan 31 12:19:35 yea, yea , nevermind Jan 31 12:19:58 I just thought i could access it the way its set up now Jan 31 12:20:15 after factory reset, i think it comes up as 192.168.1.1 on the switch ports. Jan 31 12:20:18 I know how to configure a linksys router Jan 31 12:20:40 the default 192.168.1.1 dont work when its set up as switch Jan 31 12:21:05 I'd need to reconnec cables and set it as a router again Jan 31 12:21:08 DeadZed, you might be on your own Jan 31 12:21:12 no- Jan 31 12:21:14 :) Jan 31 12:21:16 thanks Jan 31 12:21:26 dont bother hooking up the wan link to the outside Jan 31 12:21:29 that doesn't make any sense - there isn't a software setting that says "switch" or "router". it is simultaneously both. Jan 31 12:21:34 right Jan 31 12:21:52 have you turned off dhcp on the machine? Jan 31 12:22:14 if so, just change your desktop machine to be on the ipnetwork that it used to give dhcp for Jan 31 12:22:21 and connect to its address! Jan 31 12:22:32 did you reset the lan side address? You might try using a linux box and see if it emits any packets when it boots -that could help you recover the address. you could also ping various broadcast addresses and see if it appears in the arp cache. Jan 31 12:23:02 if the lan side address used to be 192.168.1.1, i bet it still is! Jan 31 12:23:17 just change your desktop machine to .2, and try it Jan 31 12:23:18 HopsNBarley I needed to bypass NAT and dhcp on this BEFW11S4 and google told me that linksys can be used as switch if I plug wan into one of the lan ports - it does work :) .. cause I need have unforwarded access to internet Jan 31 12:23:45 sure- sure but you did not really cut off the router function Jan 31 12:23:50 its still there Jan 31 12:24:24 just set your desktop to an ip on the same subnet as the machine used to use, and connect to it Jan 31 12:24:49 yes, that can work, but only if your upstream device knows about the multiple addresses you will be using. this would not be the norm for standard DSL/cable modem (although available as an option) Jan 31 12:25:42 i wonder if it is sending dhcp out of your wan port :) Jan 31 12:26:17 think of it this way - your upstream router is at X.1, you'll need to set your switch at X.2, and your devices at X.3, 4, ... Jan 31 12:26:47 it probably is, but that doesn't matter. Jan 31 12:27:53 HopsNBarley, i bet his switch lan ip is not on the subnet from his isp. i bet its on the old rfc1918 addr Jan 31 12:28:28 i once took over a hotel guest network by bringing in my own dhcp server... Jan 31 12:28:39 ok, I have d-link (192.168.0.1, 255.255.255.0) (router 1 - connected to internet), linksys (was 192.168.1.1, 255.255.255.0)(router 2 - connected to d-link) (now using it as switch) Jan 31 12:28:51 ok Jan 31 12:29:16 the 0.1 is the lan side dlink? Jan 31 12:29:18 DeadZed, now change th ip on your desktop to be on the 192.168.1 network, and connect to the .1 Jan 31 12:29:32 wait Jan 31 12:30:48 so I'll change my current desktop gateway address from 192.168.0.1 (d-link) to 192.168.1.1 (linksys)? Jan 31 12:31:24 I think I'll become disconnected Jan 31 12:31:28 not your gateway, your IP! Jan 31 12:31:31 the LAN side dlink, linksys address, and desktop must all be in the same network! Jan 31 12:31:33 yes, you will Jan 31 12:31:42 HopsNBarley, not tru Jan 31 12:32:01 the linksys can be off on its own, it wont hurt anything Jan 31 12:32:08 you just cant reach it to config it Jan 31 12:32:12 if you want them to talk to each other without proxy arp it's true... Jan 31 12:32:20 but wasn't that the question to start? Jan 31 12:32:32 the question was how do i config Jan 31 12:32:40 now that i cant reach it :) Jan 31 12:32:53 yea, cause I'd want to config wireless on that linksys Jan 31 12:32:59 of course, he can use it as a dumb switch... ah, i misunderstood. Jan 31 12:33:06 right- now you see Jan 31 12:33:30 DeadZed, if you want to config the linksys, your pc must be on the same subnet Jan 31 12:33:37 no - then i did understand - you need config acess to it, so they all must be on the same IP network. Jan 31 12:33:51 I need to use it as a switch , cause if I use it as a router, I cannot accept incoming connections (I think) Jan 31 12:33:52 you must change the ip of your machine to be 192.168.1.2 Jan 31 12:34:04 ITS ONLY TEMPORARY Jan 31 12:34:25 we still don't have enough info - is the LAN address of the dlink 0.1? Jan 31 12:34:48 i think it must be a router to use the wireless? Jan 31 12:35:00 or does it act as a bridge? Jan 31 12:35:06 i didn't use it that way - think of the wireless as an extention of the switch. Jan 31 12:35:26 ok Jan 31 12:35:29 umm d-link is 192.168.0.1 .. wait I'll thy what kitno455 suggested Jan 31 12:35:53 move it to be on the dlink subnet when you get acess to it Jan 31 12:36:04 then you wont have to do this stupid thing again Jan 31 12:36:23 better yet- trash all this low grade consumer crap, and get somehting that doesnt suck :) Jan 31 12:36:26 hahah Jan 31 12:37:23 then kitno is right - 1.2 should get you TEMP. config access to the linksys at 1.1 - though you will loose your internet connection to do so. be sure just one of the devices is your DHCP server! Jan 31 12:38:32 for some reason I still have problems with wget: Jan 31 12:38:33 Connecting to ipkg.nslu2-linux.org[66.159.209.6]:80... failed: Address family not supported by protocol. Jan 31 12:38:55 does this work for any of you Jan 31 12:39:05 no ipkg update for me without it ! Jan 31 12:39:37 i had to comment out the --enable-ipv6 line in the bb file. Jan 31 12:40:05 you're back! Jan 31 12:40:18 heh, i was able to access linksys with 129.168.1.2 :) Jan 31 12:40:44 HopsNBarley, will try that (actually I changed config.h but probably that was not enough) Jan 31 12:41:12 this was in the 1.9.1 version. there was talk of a fix, and i haven't done a pull to see yet.... Jan 31 12:41:21 I dont know ANUTHING about routers or netwotworks really, so thanks guys Jan 31 12:42:11 DeadZed: no problem, happy to help. Did you turn off the DHCP in the linksys, or did you fix it's address to 192.168.0.X ??? Jan 31 12:42:28 HopsNBarley, I did an update yesterday, and it was not there. Jan 31 12:42:38 I didnt configure it yet Jan 31 12:42:45 eFfeM: thanks - that'll save me some time. Jan 31 12:43:03 so now that Im using it as a switch I should turn off dhcp and nat in it? Jan 31 12:43:04 also tried 1.10.2, but it complains out-of-the-box about a file missing (aclocal.m4 or something like that) Jan 31 12:43:24 HopsNBarley, my pleasure, we're here to help eachother isn't it? Jan 31 12:43:32 DeadZed: NAT doesn't matter - that's on the WAN port. Jan 31 12:43:42 I've seen some REALLY complicated setups and howtos with several routers on the network, but for now I'll just use one router as a switch Jan 31 12:44:10 DeadZed: on DHCP - it depends - who do you want to serve DHCP - the Dlink or the Linksys - there could be good reasons for either - my point is make sure it's just ONE of them! Jan 31 12:44:43 DeadZed: and also that the linksys ison the right network for future config work (-; Jan 31 12:45:20 eFfeM: betcha' Jan 31 12:46:19 what if i put both routers on same subnet, will d-link boxes be able to see linksys boxes? Jan 31 12:46:32 nevermind, its all too complicated Jan 31 12:46:59 DeadZed--, yes Jan 31 12:47:02 that's not complicated - these are just IP devices - and sure you could do that. Jan 31 12:47:10 but they cant do anything to each other Jan 31 12:47:36 HopsNBarley, commented out the --enable-ipv6 and a force-reinstall and it started working again; thanks Jan 31 12:47:39 just give everything under the sun an ip on your main nat'd network Jan 31 12:47:53 only have one dhcp server, and you are set Jan 31 12:47:55 do you know a good page I should read to educate myself about multiple router cofigs and networks? Jan 31 12:48:02 haha Jan 31 12:48:18 anyone who is capable of writing such a page would not build such a network :) Jan 31 12:48:23 uh, any good IP introduction. there must be thousands of them. Jan 31 12:48:46 kidding- HopsNBarley is right Jan 31 12:49:15 eFfeMnet is one router, one router as switch only with wifi and one switch, couldn't get it all connected otherwise Jan 31 12:49:26 it's really all pretty simple once you grasp ARP, that an address must always be paired with a mask, and the fundamental IP routing algortihm. Jan 31 12:49:44 some 7 networked devices in the house Jan 31 12:50:10 which devices? Jan 31 12:50:21 Hops net is 3 wireless AP's, 2 switches, linux firewall, 5 or so computers Jan 31 12:50:54 Need coffee. will return... Jan 31 12:51:14 3 computers, 1 laptop, 2 digital media adapters, 1 stereo set suppoting internet radio and of course a slug (oh that makes 8) Jan 31 12:51:44 i'm at the office, the net here is pretty good. the net at home is a linux box with a modem! Jan 31 12:52:05 dial-uP? Jan 31 12:53:12 eFfeM - do you know how to compile natively? I set up the tool chain and that works. but apache "do_package" fails with "Couldn't find shared library provider for " Jan 31 12:53:46 do you guys develop this firmware for free? Jan 31 12:53:52 should you even be running bitbake on the slug natively? Jan 31 12:53:56 DeadZed--, yeap- i live in the boondocks Jan 31 12:54:04 wow, a travel to the past Jan 31 12:54:18 no cable, no dsl Jan 31 12:54:25 are you all on linuxboxes somewhere in new york? Jan 31 12:54:30 Hmm. Two cable modems (roommmate is paying for his), my Netgear switch supports a desktop and two notebooks. His Linksys (first version) supports a desktop, two ReplayTV, and an occasional 'floater' PC of some sort or other. Jan 31 12:54:40 out in the country Jan 31 12:54:42 dude - a modem? actually, i'm in the sticks too, and just made the jump last year when dsl finally came in. Jan 31 12:54:50 no dsl here. Jan 31 12:54:58 how about EVDO? Jan 31 12:55:00 i am thinking about direcway Jan 31 12:55:29 on verizon i think you get unlimited 9pm-7am. Jan 31 12:55:37 Oh, correction. Mine is a desktop, slug, and two notebooks. ;) Jan 31 12:56:55 Whats OpenSlug firmware like? is it like ordinary linux with unix tree etc, except less files or smth Jan 31 12:56:56 never looked at it closely Jan 31 12:57:16 DeadZed--, it is a full-featured linux box Jan 31 12:57:30 can I install debian on it then :) Jan 31 12:57:32 you can install packages for many apps Jan 31 12:57:33 yes Jan 31 12:57:36 you can Jan 31 12:57:38 really :O Jan 31 12:57:41 yes Jan 31 12:57:44 reallyu Jan 31 12:57:51 s/reallyu/really/ Jan 31 12:57:51 kitno455 meant: really Jan 31 12:59:39 HopsNBarley, i compile natively if needed but without bb. i've never set up a native toolchain, just an ipkg install gcc (and g++ and probably also some friends like gdb) Jan 31 12:59:57 ahaa http://www.tomsnetworking.com/Sections-article85-page3.php Jan 31 13:00:34 for apache you might need to build those missing libs first (maybe adding them in the RDEPENDS in the .bb file also helps) Jan 31 13:01:04 HopsNBarley, there are two things I compile natively Jan 31 13:01:23 one are a few proggies I've developed myself (e.g. my recording daemon) Jan 31 13:01:46 the other are some progrs that are not available Jan 31 13:01:59 especially when I started and did not know anything about bb Jan 31 13:02:10 eFfeM: How well has that worked so far, doing native compile? And do they use glib? Jan 31 13:02:52 tkimball, native compile works fine and at some point I even compiled php natively. No idea on glib Jan 31 13:03:14 or do you mean glibc? Jan 31 13:03:21 i misphrased my question. I should have "how to I package natively". The libraries bitbake is complaining about are infact installed. Jan 31 13:03:21 I'm curious, since every attempt of an irssi cross-compile has failed. Jan 31 13:03:26 glibc I think yes. Jan 31 13:04:09 yeah that is on my sys Jan 31 13:04:23 just tried ipkg list | wc Jan 31 13:04:28 guess what: 4357 Jan 31 13:04:38 HopsNBarley, have never done that Jan 31 13:04:52 The ipkg irssi or your own compile? ipkg has perl etc turned off, I want them enabled. Jan 31 13:04:56 dammmmmn. Jan 31 13:05:40 tkimball, was that to me. Don't think I use irssi (actually no idea what it is ...) Jan 31 13:06:12 eFfeM: irssi is IRC client. What I'm using from the slug today to reach here. :) Jan 31 13:19:36 tkimball, understood, I use xchat on my pc to connect to miau running on my slug Jan 31 13:20:01 took some time ro respond as I created a reboot-neede situation :-) Jan 31 13:21:03 I'd love to use a BNC, but work requires connections via http/https only now. So I'm thinking of generating an irssi module. Jan 31 13:21:42 Problem of course is that irssi on slugos is not compiled with openssl, perl, or proxy. Jan 31 13:26:29 does anyone knows how the find out the pi Jan 31 13:26:42 damn Jan 31 13:27:20 pins of some pl2303 usb-to-serial cell phone data cable Jan 31 13:32:18 EvilDevil[A], a volmeter or scope while its plugged in Jan 31 13:32:25 s/vol/volt/ Jan 31 13:32:25 kitno455 meant: EvilDevil[A], a voltmeter or scope while its plugged in Jan 31 13:32:56 i got 4 pins: black, blue, red, white.... black<-> blue (gnd on black) gives 0.07 volts, black <-> white 3.26 volts Jan 31 13:33:26 black <-> red: 0 volt Jan 31 13:33:51 try opening minicom to it, and type a whole bunch Jan 31 13:34:01 while looking at black to blue Jan 31 13:34:09 with the meter Jan 31 13:34:21 if the voltage jumps around, that is tx Jan 31 13:34:29 do the same with the others Jan 31 13:34:42 ok Jan 31 13:35:01 i bet white is 3.3v power Jan 31 13:35:28 i bet white is 3.3v and red/blue is rx/tx Jan 31 13:35:34 though that could be tx/rx Jan 31 13:36:25 black <-> red 0.8 volts ... Jan 31 13:36:40 does it jump around? Jan 31 13:36:49 while you type Jan 31 13:37:07 no clue.. tried hyperterminal, but it crashed *??* Jan 31 13:37:17 hahah get a real os :) Jan 31 13:37:40 that would mean that i have to change my notebook Jan 31 13:37:41 can you install minicom on your slug? Jan 31 13:37:49 and ssh into your slug? Jan 31 13:38:34 that would mean that i have to go to the floor.... :-/ Jan 31 13:38:35 i have run minicom from slug over usbserial connector, it works ok, not great, but good enough Jan 31 13:38:52 just for testing Jan 31 13:39:28 only other option is to cut open the part where the chip is, and trace the pinout Jan 31 13:39:43 or get a friend with a scope and a linux box :) Jan 31 13:40:44 i got a linux box... well.. i got 4 of them Jan 31 13:41:18 well... ok, i'll go to the icy, cold room where they reside Jan 31 13:46:42 ok Jan 31 13:46:58 ok Jan 31 13:47:03 you are smaller now :) Jan 31 13:47:34 the gnd and Vcc lines should stay stable while typing Jan 31 13:47:47 tx should change? Jan 31 13:47:50 the tx line should fluctuate Jan 31 13:48:01 rx should stay stable i guess :) Jan 31 13:48:04 compaired to either gnd or vcc Jan 31 13:48:17 the rx is anyones guess Jan 31 13:48:34 connect the rx to the tx, and type to yourself :) Jan 31 13:49:11 this is creating a whole new meaning... Jan 31 13:49:24 Nullmodem-cable Jan 31 13:49:32 no- loopback plug Jan 31 13:50:14 i once saw them on some weird lesbian tv show ;) Jan 31 13:50:42 hahah Jan 31 13:50:51 thats something else i think Jan 31 13:51:07 you get minicom fired up? Jan 31 13:51:33 installed it... i'm configuring it now Jan 31 13:52:02 ok Jan 31 13:53:09 what was the connection you suggested? black to red? Jan 31 14:05:16 evildevil, yeah- try black to red thru the meter, and type Jan 31 14:08:26 either my voltmeter is too slow or this does not work Jan 31 14:09:05 i'm setting baud rate to 300... maybe this helps Jan 31 14:12:05 it's just changing from 0.00 to -0.00 :-/ Jan 31 14:13:35 i think blue is tx :-) black to blue gives me little peaks Jan 31 14:13:56 black to white ~ 3.3 v Jan 31 14:16:02 black = GND, white = V+, red = RX, blue = Tx Jan 31 14:16:10 sure Jan 31 14:17:09 blue to red -> 200mV Jan 31 14:17:26 connect blue to red dirrectly. no meter Jan 31 14:17:29 then type Jan 31 14:17:48 nothing Jan 31 14:18:05 but it put some @@@ on the screen while connecting Jan 31 14:18:23 but no @@@ if it is disconnected? Jan 31 14:18:33 .... 8 Jan 31 14:19:30 i bet you got it. Jan 31 14:20:48 funny.. if i touch blue, it puts chars on the screen :) Jan 31 14:21:36 seems like my fingers got something to tell Jan 31 14:21:58 would be cool to use this as an alternative to the keyboard ;-) Jan 31 14:22:10 :) Jan 31 14:22:47 well.. i guess i need some more training for that Jan 31 14:23:04 blue might be rx then? Jan 31 14:23:40 might be ... Jan 31 14:25:01 sometimes when i touch blue and released it again, it still is drawing chars.... it stops after i touch red Jan 31 14:25:35 damn electronics Jan 31 14:25:49 (damn cheap voltmeter) Jan 31 14:26:55 haha Jan 31 14:27:27 an analogue one is better for that kind of task Jan 31 14:28:00 sure... but i don't have one :-( Jan 31 14:30:53 anyone know how to FORCE reflash to write out the fs image? Jan 31 14:31:11 i screwed up the contents, and now it refuses to overwrite it Jan 31 14:31:21 even though mtdblock4 is empty Jan 31 14:31:47 use dd if=... of=/dev/mtdblock4 Jan 31 14:33:59 lets see if i have dd Jan 31 14:34:02 :) Jan 31 14:34:44 dd is the one with the blue and the red wire Jan 31 14:34:47 :-O Jan 31 14:35:27 * evildevil is w[ei|ie]r[e]d Jan 31 14:36:06 yes, seems to have dd :) Jan 31 14:37:18 boy dd sure is slow Jan 31 14:40:28 well.... i still have no clue what color is tx/rx Jan 31 14:40:45 evildevil, it does not matter Jan 31 14:40:54 hook it up, if it does not work, switch it Jan 31 14:41:03 it wont hurt it Jan 31 14:41:09 i hope :) Jan 31 14:41:25 if it breaks, i'm gonna (virtually) throw it at you Jan 31 14:41:38 hell- i will virtually buy you a new one Jan 31 14:41:53 this would be virtually nice Jan 31 14:42:51 http://cgi.ebay.de/Voltmeter-analog-neu_W0QQitemZ6032703783QQcategoryZ42630QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem <- this seems a little too analogue Jan 31 14:43:00 the slug side is very robust. i connected all four pins of the serial header to ground once. my minicom session stopped Jan 31 14:43:10 but the slug was fine Jan 31 14:43:59 ok, i'll give it a try... tomorrow :-) Jan 31 14:44:06 thanks for your help kitno455 Jan 31 14:44:43 np Jan 31 14:44:53 i was looking to do this myself Jan 31 14:45:11 my current serial adapter is build from components Jan 31 14:45:38 the cell-phone route seems faster Jan 31 14:46:41 well.. this cell-phone usb-to-serial adapter was never working... piece of crap Jan 31 14:48:35 i'm starting to freeze. *brrr* switching to notebook/livingroom again Jan 31 15:05:45 Hi - is there a known USB storage problem with 2.7? I'm getting a crash when inserting some USB sticks... Jan 31 15:17:23 mtb: What's maker of the stick? I'm using a wiped Lexar Secure myself, perfectly happy. Jan 31 15:47:39 oops sorry. Um the one giving me trouble today is an ipod shuffle Jan 31 15:48:07 works fine on my x86 desktop with 2.6.12, but not on the slug Jan 31 15:53:05 Ah. I thought you were mentioning a mounted drive for filesystem. Jan 31 15:56:26 mtb: do you get any info in the log? Jan 31 15:57:54 I don't think there has been problems with the slug crashing when inserting a usb-stick. Some stick have not been detected, but no crashes. Jan 31 16:15:46 sorry - fighting the thing here Jan 31 16:16:01 crashing on insert - not when mounting Jan 31 16:16:44 It behaves as normal until it gets to: Jan 31 16:16:48 user.debug kernel: usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning Jan 31 16:17:18 usuanlly there is about a 1 sec delay and then the scsi driver does it's stuff Jan 31 16:17:37 but I'm getting nothing for about 30 sec, and then: Jan 31 16:17:58 Jan 31 21:26:14 (none) user.info kernel: scsi: Device offlined - not ready after error recovery: host 4 channel 0 id 0 lun 0 Jan 31 16:17:58 Jan 31 21:26:14 (none) user.info kernel: usb 1-2: USB disconnect, address 7 Jan 31 16:17:58 Jan 31 21:26:14 (none) user.debug kernel: usb-storage: device scan complete Jan 31 16:17:58 Jan 31 21:26:14 (none) user.alert kernel: Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address 00000008 Jan 31 16:17:59 Jan 31 21:26:14 (none) user.alert kernel: pgd = c0004000 Jan 31 16:18:01 Jan 31 21:26:14 (none) user.alert kernel: [00000008] *pgd=00000000 Jan 31 16:18:03 Jan 31 21:26:14 (none) user.warn kernel: Internal error: Oops: 17 [#1] Jan 31 16:18:04 ouch Jan 31 16:18:23 well, OpenSlug 3.x is probably right around the corner Jan 31 16:18:31 which is only really recoverable by a reboot:( Jan 31 16:18:35 oh? Jan 31 16:18:52 is there info on whats new anywhere? Jan 31 16:19:09 If I understand correctly, there's only one problem left to fix before a release Jan 31 16:19:12 morning, rwhitby Jan 31 16:20:26 The kernel is upgraded to 2.6.15.1 (Could probably change to .2 before release) Jan 31 16:20:35 the network drivers are updated Jan 31 16:20:52 A lot of packages are updated :) Jan 31 16:22:25 You might wanna wait until the 3.x release and see if the problem goes away Jan 31 16:22:28 is there anyway O could get my hands on the firmware to see if that sorts this USB issue? Jan 31 16:22:44 You could build the almost-3.x from HEAD Jan 31 16:23:16 You'd need a linux box to build it on... Google for MasterMakefile. The first hit is the one you want. Jan 31 16:24:37 ok cool - I have a cross dev enviroment set up for my adventures with slug-gentoo Jan 31 16:25:18 the MasterMakefile will build a new one though Jan 31 16:29:11 It is recommended, but not essential, to make a new user, to build using the Master Makefile. -- -- NB: Root access required Jan 31 16:29:14 Huh? :) Jan 31 16:33:01 Root access is required to make a user ;) Jan 31 16:33:25